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Vapeur Cochonne - Brasserie à Vapeur

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BA SCORE
78
okay

190 Ratings
THE BROS
91
outstanding

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Ratings: 190
Reviews: 131
rAvg: 3.4
pDev: 21.47%
Wants: 4
Gots: 6 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brasserie à Vapeur visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 06-27-2002)
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Photo of jrenihan
3.81/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Beer is reddish amber, with an enormous light tan head. I can't even pour that much of the bottle until the head has taken up the entire glass. A little ridiculous. Fades steadily but not quickly.

Smell contains cherry. other dark fruits and some sweet malt. Some Belgian yeast as well.

Taste is quite fruity, with cherry, orange and apple. Sweet caramel malt. Bready. Some coriander. Despite the sweetness, there is a pronounced dry side to the beer. Yeast is there as well. A bit of booze.

Medium bodied and hugely carbonated. Very active in the mouth. Almost like pop rocks. Distracting.

Overall, a bit unusual but fairly good. I am surprised by all the negative reviews here for this one. It is not a world-class beer, but it is pretty good and I enjoyed the bottle I had.

jrenihan, Jan 12, 2013
Photo of yamar68
4.04/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

1996 vintage - the same year that:
- eBay was launched
- "Wannabe" by The Spice Girls was no. 1 on the US music charts
- gas cost $1.22 per gallon

The bottle is definitely showing it's age... cap is covered in rust and the cork is beginning to disintegrate but still manages to produce a quiet "pop." It pours out a nice looking burnt tangerine colored body, producing a thin beige collar that actually leaves behind a bit of lace with some booze oil. It looks as though this particular bottle fared better than many of its brothers and sisters. So far so good.

As others have noted, this has taken a distinctively tart direction. Apple skins, wet hay bales, some tart pear qualities. A bit of oxidation is also beginning to surface, like soggy newspaper. Lemongrass and some more of those pale fruits. A faint skeleton of caramel malt is buried deep beneath all of that.

Not quite as focused on the palate. Tart apple cider character blended with pear or peach juice - maybe even a bit of pineapple as well. I was worried that some of those spices would still be hanging around to sabotage the unexpectedly tart palate. Instead, it finishes up nice and dry with some mellow chardonnay flavors and apple skin. I can't see this one improving but if you've got one sitting around, don't hesitate to open it up - very unique stuff at this point.

As you might expect, the first taste caught me completely off guard. But as I sit here nursing the bottle, it's definitely growing on me.

yamar68, Jan 09, 2013
Photo of laurastradford
4/5  rDev +17.6%

laurastradford, Dec 16, 2012
Photo of cliff1066
3.25/5  rDev -4.4%

cliff1066, Dec 10, 2012
Photo of DrDemento456
3.55/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Going into this beer knowing its a sour Belgium ale (based on other reviews)
Picked up an old bottle for 6 bucks at the House of 1,000 beers

A - Even though it's old its still lively with carbonation. Bubbles throughout form a 1/4 inch of off white head that reduces to a thick lace ring. Color is a Hazy dark amber brown with no sediment (always good)

S - Smell is a bit funky with a weird vinegar like malt sweetness. Yeasts do smell rather fruity. Smells like an amp'd up Flanders brown ale.

T - Not as tart as I expected. The work "musky" comes to mind on first taste like wet cardboard. Flavors then take a turn for sweet with chocolate like malts and some bread that finish with a slight woody taste.

M - Goes down rather easy giving me a sort of sour cherry like bite. ABV is well concealed.

Overall an interesting brew which is not too big on taste yet smooth enough to drink with no off flavors. No where worth 12 bucks a bottle but interesting enough to try for 6 bucks.

DrDemento456, Nov 19, 2012
Photo of kbrown
3.75/5  rDev +10.3%

kbrown, Oct 04, 2012
Photo of yossarian14
2.25/5  rDev -33.8%

yossarian14, Sep 12, 2012
Photo of t0rin0
3.5/5  rDev +2.9%

t0rin0, Aug 29, 2012
Photo of mlazzaro
3.1/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

750ml bottle.
Unique amber/rose color. Khaki colored head that holds up just so-so. Good looking beer though.

Smells a lot like raisins - ripened fruit. Mostly yeast aroma. Mixed with some darker caramel malts. Bit of spice a fig notes as well.

Sweetness front sip and yeast flavored end. Kind of taste like barley pops- the lobster ones if your from New England. Alcohol is present. Aftertaste is acidic and slightly odd.

Not my favorite Belgian beer. I found myself not wanting to finish the glass. Never had another quite like it though, and there is something to be said for that.

mlazzaro, Aug 26, 2012
Photo of djrn2
3/5  rDev -11.8%

djrn2, Aug 25, 2012
Photo of illini4x4
2.25/5  rDev -33.8%

illini4x4, Aug 08, 2012
Photo of WilstonOreo
3.75/5  rDev +10.3%

WilstonOreo, Jul 22, 2012
Photo of harpus
3.5/5  rDev +2.9%

harpus, Jul 22, 2012
Photo of PuFtonLyfe
3.25/5  rDev -4.4%

PuFtonLyfe, May 03, 2012
Photo of Cozzatoad
3.53/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

330ml cochonnette bottle, best before november 2012

A- Pours a murky light brown colour. One finger of quite dense and nicely persistent slightly off-white head, nice amounts of lacing on the sides of the glass

S- Dark fruits aroma, with a bit of spiciness to it, among a quite earthy yeast/brown sugar feel. A hint of acidity may be detected on the back of things. Lively and fresh aroma

T- Very much yeast-forward with a distinct earthy feel and some notes of brown sugar. Some plain alcoholic notes and a bit of estery spiciness bring a bit of a rum-like feel. Some dark fruit notes on the back of things, not as vivid as in the aroma though. Slighlty acidic (not so distantly reminds of a flanders red ale) as the smell suggested, but it a way that does not really fit with the beer's overall feel. Very flavourful, but flavours are not well integrated. I can't even say that they may have not yet mellowed, cause the beer is actually quite close to it's best before date

M- Medium body. Low carbonation but still a bit crisp on the tongue with what seems to be sugar. A slightly tart finish hides flavours in the aftertaste. Odd

O- A very flavourful and actually quite interesting beer. The 9%ABV is quite nicely hidden but as already mentioned flavours have just not mellowed. It's a bit of a mess and also feels quite heavy on the stomach with dominant yeast. A lucky bottle could be a great pick though

Cozzatoad, Apr 10, 2012
Photo of Archemedies
2/5  rDev -41.2%

Archemedies, Mar 31, 2012
Photo of gyllstromk
4.5/5  rDev +32.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

The "belgian strong dark ale" style seems an inappropriate label; I'd place it closer to Rodenbach/Red ale/saison.

Pours copper red.

Nose has fruity sweetness, cloves, vanilla, perhaps nutmeg or cinnamon.

Flavor has a nice acidity with an interesting and welcome sweet counterbalance. Acidity has a vinegar character, which makes it more like a flander's red style (rodenbach) than a lambic. The balance makes this a more refreshing and drinkable beer than rodenbach. Slight bitterness on the finish. The alcohol is well masked; in fact I was surprised to discover this beer at 9%.

Very interesting and recommended!

gyllstromk, Mar 18, 2012
Photo of DCon
3.75/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Shared a 25,4 FL. OZ. (750ml) bottle of this w/ STLWIll & Friends @ The Royale. Poured from the Caged/Corked bottle w/ a Lime Green Label w/ a Pig toweling off his genitals & laughing into a 12oz Shaker Glass. Has a brew date of 04/1996, bottled in June 1996 on the back of the bottle. Wow! Vintage?

Aroma- Huge amount of vinegar, peach, and muskiness. Duh, what else would you find with a beer brewed from over 15 years ago! Glad I could find all of this!

Appearance- Pours no head at all, while pouring very aggressively. Has a dark copper/glowing orange body with good clarity. Leaves no lacing behind.

Flavor- A blend of peach and light lambic characters hit the mouth first. Very sweet and malty. The musk attribute found in the aroma comes out here as well.

Mouthfeel- Light Bodied, Light-Medium Carbonation(due to aging), Smooth, and a very light tart finish.

Overall Impression- A Belgian Strong Ale you say? I say this is more like an Unblended Lambic or Belgian Golden Ale... Due to aging, this beer became COMPLETELY different from what their original goal was. Very musky, light tartness, and some peach/fruits came out quite often. Would like to see a fresh bottle of this sometime.

DCon, Mar 04, 2012
Photo of bsuedekum
2/5  rDev -41.2%

bsuedekum, Feb 22, 2012
Photo of Stoutsman
3.5/5  rDev +2.9%

Stoutsman, Jan 14, 2012
Photo of ygtbsm94
3/5  rDev -11.8%

ygtbsm94, Jan 10, 2012
Photo of trevorjn06
3.1/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

1996 vintage opened Jan 8, 2012.

Pours almost still, very low carbonation with a slightly hazy, deep golden color.

Aroma is quite tart with lots of fruits. Tart apples, pears, light citrus, some goaty funk, tart notes and slight acetic acid.

Taste follows the nose and has a very dry, tart finish. Begins with tart apple, lactic acid, a very mild malt flavor is evident. The finish is lots of sour lactic and some acetic acid. Leaves a puckering sensation and finishes with some tart, green apple flavors on the tongue and mild funk lingering. Very light hop bitterness evident.

Mouthfeel is medium/thin bodied with low carbonation. Light astringency.

Overall a very interesting beer, I think it peaked a few years back when there was still some malt to it and perhaps the spices came through.

trevorjn06, Jan 08, 2012
Photo of TheBeerWatcher
3.93/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

75cl bottle from Belgian Beer Station. Bottle only capped, no cork.
Didn’t expect it but bottle opened with a loud pop and the beer sprayed out of the bottle. Never seen this before. Stored it upright for a couple of weeks though. Pitty for the lost beer (although the dog licked a bit off the floor; seemed to like it a lot). I had to clean the living room though (at 00:30 AM !!!)

Beer is hazy amber with an off white noisy head leaving lots of lace on the glass. The head lasts very long.

The aroma is very fruity (cherry) and fresh but also yeasty and funky. Very like a good gueuze ...

The taste is tart and fruity evolving to a yeasty side with a pretty bitter, dry and grainy finish. The beer has got a medium body with little carbonation. The 9% ABV does its work very well.

Overall an original beer with lots of character. I hope that the next bottle won’t be such a gusher.

TheBeerWatcher, Dec 14, 2011
Photo of Rochefort10nh
3/5  rDev -11.8%

Rochefort10nh, Nov 25, 2011
Photo of JimmyMacS
5/5  rDev +47.1%

JimmyMacS, Nov 24, 2011
Vapeur Cochonne from Brasserie à Vapeur
78 out of 100 based on 190 ratings.