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Vapeur Cochonne - Brasserie à Vapeur

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BA SCORE
78
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135 Reviews
THE BROS
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Reviews: 135
Hads: 197
rAvg: 3.37
pDev: 17.21%
Wants: 3
Gots: 7 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 06-27-2002

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Photo of zeff80
2.64/5  rDev -21.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A - Poured out a somewhat hazy, copper color with a tan , foamy, bubbly head. It left some nice lacing.

S - Simply put, it smelled like Heineken. It was a little skunky and smelled like a Euro Lager. Not good for a Belgian.

T - It tasted bitter and grainy. Not at all like a Belgian ale. Not very good at all.

M - It was crisp and sharp. A medium-bodied beer.

D - From other reviews, it looks like they have quality issues and this must have been one of the bad ones. (471 characters)

Photo of IBUnit63
3.39/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

11.2 oz. into Ommegang chalice

Uh oh...no head. A fair amount of collodial floaties. Has been in someone's cellar a while but it's flat. Natural hard cider flatness and color.

Very woody smell - pine - not tree, but 2x4! Nice apple sourness, though - a little brett?

As flat as this is the taste is quite enjoyable. Pine (the tree - it came through) and gelatinous yeast texture with tight sour presence and significant apple and caramel malt profile.

Again, this is flat so there's a heavy hard cider feel. Rustic to say the least. Finish is a little more piney and tight.

I wish this had a little more care in the cellar or freshness, 'cause it's not that bad, but a little challenge to finish at the moment. (715 characters)

Photo of thierrynantes
3/5  rDev -11%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Beer bottle (33cl.), tasted in 2003.

Appearance : copper color, with white foam head. A pretty label.
Smell : fruity and spicy aroams.
Taste and mouthfeel : sweet flavour, with fruits and spices
Drinkability : an average beer in the style Belgian strong dark ale (served too cold in the bar). (294 characters)

Photo of ballewblake
4.7/5  rDev +39.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Picked up at New Beer in NYC.

Poured from bottle into the breweries nude female pig glass. Average pour gave it a one and a half finger white head on a light amber brew. Chunk of yeast that settled on the bottle also went into the glass. Yummy. Getting lots of honey on the nose, really mild hops, sweet malts. Wow. Very interesting taste here, in a good way, not what I was expecting for a Belgie SDA. Really good carbonation with a really complex character all around the tongue. Wish I had a few more of these around. Some strange childhood memories going through my head while trying to pin point flavors, thinking kid candies somewhere in this one. Really good flavors, just don't know how to describe them. Digging this one. Complex all around. (752 characters)

Photo of SPLITGRIN
3.77/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Brewery aged 1996 vintage.

It pours with a body that is much lighter than expected equalling a honey straw color. There really is no head, just a off white skim. Nose has notes of crisp green apple, honey comb, and grassy vinegar. A bit of oak and thin port is also present in the smell. Tnters the mouth with a initial sharp tartness that quickly calms and draws a creamy feel. Crisp green apple sour feel rolls with a honey feel and yeasty, tones on the back of the tongue. Alchol is nowhere to be found in the flavor profile. Mouthfeel is yeasty thickness due to the sour feel to the beer. This beer is nicely drinkable for as tart as it is. Looking at other reviews it looks like this beer benefiets from a little age. (723 characters)

Photo of beerthulhu
3.5/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a light raspberry red color with a nice frothy off tan head. Lots of yeasty sludge in bottom of bottle (750ml). Some peppery floaties.

S: Musky aroma, stale fruit (apples, pears) for nose along with some alcohol.

T: Cantelope, honeydew flavor with sweet caramel. Big fruitiness to start with some sour bitterness for a finish. A little ripe honey dew flavor brings some juice like sweetness to the flavor.

M: Soft carbonation, smooth palate with some alcohol detection. Very rich caramel for an aftertaste with good bread notes and dried fruit.

D: A decent example. (581 characters)

Photo of irishkyle21
3.97/5  rDev +17.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy copper color. What little head came from the pour is gone almost immediately, no lacing as well.

Smells of sour fruits, spices and sweet malts. A bit of funk is also apparent.

Tastes like it smells, fruits, sourness, sweet malts, spices and wood. (261 characters)

Photo of cyrenaica
3.5/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

330ml bottle
8.5% ABV

I tried this beer on June 6, 2008 at "The Beer Bistro" in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. The beer poured amurky golden brown with a creamy tanm coloured head. The aroma was malty with sweet hints, particularly cherry/grape. The mouthfeel was thin-bodied, and very champagne-like. The flavour was also champagne-like in that is was light malt and fruity spices. (378 characters)

Photo of danielharper
2.8/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Light brown body, sort of like a brown ale, thin bubbly head that persists.

Smell: Strong Belgian funk, sort of a "farmy" aroma. Very sweet, highly astringent. Some citrus notes, hints of coriander and lemon. Complex, a bit intimidating due to the funkiness, but inviting. Reminds me a bit of a lambic, strangely enough.

Taste: Wow, incredibly yeasty and with a strong alcohol taste. Very sour finish. Makes me think more of a Gose than a Strong Belgian Dark. I can get hints of citrus, but overall the complexities of the flavor are completely destroyed by the sour aftertaste. The alcoholic astringency also catches up with you quickly.

Mouthfeel: Low carbonation gives it a smoothness, no hops to speak of, moderate thickness, a bit low for such a highly alcoholic beer.

Drinkability: If you can get past the cloying sourness, it's actually not bad. I know the Strong Dark Belgian Style is wide, but this doesn't match up with many of the characteristics of that style. Decent, but not one I'll buy again. (1,025 characters)

Photo of geexploitation
4.33/5  rDev +28.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This brewery is total Jekyll and Hyde due to poor quality control. Some bottles are amazing, others terrible. Let's see what lot I drew...

Pours a slightly murky, almost rusty amber color with a light white head that leaves plenty of lace. Very light carbonation, but the head stays. On the nose, some odd but enticing aromas of vague spices (all below threshold and hard to identify individually), bubblegum and funk. A sweetish tea presence floats in the background. The palate is more oddity, but it's oddly delicious. Fresh acidity starts things off, along with sweet tropical fruits and the aforementioned bubblegum. Midway through the funk comes out, with lively sourness that tastes brett-derived. Tea-like mix of bitter and sweet that continues through the finish gives way to hops and creamy spices at the very end. Mouthfeel is not highly carbonated, but still seems lively in spite of it. Overall, this is a flavorful, funky saison. It looks like I got a good bottle -- it was excellent stuff. (1,005 characters)

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.06/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle: Poured a deep cloudy brown color ale with a large foamy head with good retention and some lacing. Aroma consists of sweet malt with some funky notes which don't balance well with the malt. Taste is also dominated by some nice medium sweet Belgian malt notes with a weird funky finish which I can't say for sure that I really enjoy. Full body with limited filtration and some great carbonation. Interesting but not sure I would go for this very often. (458 characters)

Photo of DaggerEyes
4.04/5  rDev +19.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A dark orangey / maroon in color. Sweet and musty. Smells wonderful. Funky musty concord grape, perhaps a bit of apple and some cheese rind notes. Sweet and funky on the palette. Easy drinking. This was a really pleasant brew

Paired great with Naked Goat cheese... (265 characters)

Photo of dsa7783
2.65/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

11.2 oz single bottle copped from Buy Rite on Oak Tree in Sout Plainfield... pink logo sticker with a pig and a white towel on the bottle... "Ale Brewed With Spices"... Dark-copper, amber appearance with a modest head that left little lacing.. smell was complete with pears, caramel, and dark sugar... taste strongly complements the aroma with an obvious pear and floral taste... very different from most Belgian Strong Dark Ales.. a very fruity and floral taste that makes this one stand out from the rest... wasn't too crazy about this one, and I could be fair to best rate this beer as "average"... nothing to write home about at all... and the taste and mouthfeel weren't very thick at all, more of a watered-down taste if anything... wasn't too impressed by this one... an average sample at best with a very strong apple-cider and pear taste and aroma... (859 characters)

Photo of nkwarrior
3.05/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Sour tasting, also reminds me of the lambics. Intially a metalic aftertaste.... taste improved with the 2nd glass. Will try again. Overall a courious experience. Appearance was hazy coppery. Not an all time favorite at this point, but does provide a different taste for a Belgian beer. (285 characters)

Photo of watchnerd
3.4/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750 ml bottle. Poured with minimal head and mild lacing. Strong apple aroma. First drink -- this is an odd duck. Not what I expected for a brew listed as a ’belgian strong ale’. Very strong taste of apples; if someone served this to me blindfolded, I might have a hard time proclaiming this to be beer rather than a weird cider. A very unique beer. (350 characters)

Photo of largadeer
3/5  rDev -11%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Amber-colored, not particularly light or dark, and mostly opaque. The first pour creates a fizzy, champagne-like head. Subsequent pours produce more of a standard oversized Belgian head.

Smell: Initially it's pretty earthy with a mustiness that reminds me of gueuze or lambic. Aromas of dried fruit are present as well, namely dried peach.

Taste: Simultaneously sweet and sour, but not in an over-the-top way; it's a fairly subtle beer. Apple cider and mead both come to mind. Spices are noticeable but I can't pin down specific flavors - it's pretty unusual. The finish is a touch dry and slightly metallic, with a mild herbal bitterness.

Mouthfeel: Fairly light-bodied with a sharp champagne-like fizz on the tongue.

Notes - An unusual beer, not one I'd revisit any time soon. (794 characters)

Photo of Viggo
3.5/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Chris and Kyoko for cracking this one.

Pours a hazed copper, thin off white head, a few lace spots, settles to almost nothing pretty quick. Smell ia meadlike, malty, honey, caramel, spices, bread, alcohol, pretty simple. Taste is similar, strong honey/mead flavour, malty, caramel, oxidized/iron, spicy alcohol, pretty neat and unique. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with medium to high carbonation, pretty smooth though. Not sure how old this bottle is, but it was pretty interesting. Thanks! (500 characters)

Photo of Absumaster
2.31/5  rDev -31.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

A clear, copper colored beer with a thin head.

Smell is autolysed yeast, with some sharp spicy notes and a subdued malt smell.

Taste of higher alcohols and the spices are probably anise, one of the worst combinations that are out there. Together with the 9% alcohol and the yeast taste, this beer is not OK. The alcohol is warming and almost burns a hole in my throat. I have had more beers of this brewery and they all seem to taste like this. Bitterness is pretty low and body is low. Some candisugar notes are in here, but can't get around the sharp spice and alcohol taste. (579 characters)

Photo of janubio
3.64/5  rDev +8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

33 cl. bottle. Copper colour, with a medium head that doesn't last much but leaves a nice lace. Aroma is spicy and citrusy, with coriander but also apples and plums and port wine. Sweet flavor, with some acidity and surpringly mouthfeel of chocolate, cake and fruits. Interesting beer, with an arome that has nothing to do with the taste, though there's something I can't define that it lacks of . Maybe it's just that contrast. (428 characters)

Photo of BEERchitect
2.19/5  rDev -35%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

I really hope that I received a bad bottle of this brew... because this was godawful. The rust colored beer poured without a hint of head retention, lacking in carbonation, and simply appeared lifeless. The aromas did not fare better; a pungent vinegar aroma dominated the red-wine character and disregarded any malt sweetness and artisan ale influence. Flavors resulted in much the same: sour and dirty. No real detection of the spices that were noted on the bottle, nor any variety, complexity, or balance. The body was watery, acidic, and astringent; nearly undrinkable. The beer was a near disaster throughout; I'm interested in revisiting this brew and updating this review. Potential buyers, beware of old / contaminated bottles. (735 characters)

Photo of Imstillthegman
2.6/5  rDev -22.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Shared this one with some other good beer drinkers after dinner. Oh yeah...shared it with the sink, also. I thank my bro-in-law for bringing it, though.

Poured a dark amber color with a thin ivory head that quickly vanished.

Smelled musty. Vinegar, ginger, light fruit scent, cheap wine. Wasn't sure what to make of it.

Tart, slightly sour flavor. Sweet at first with a touch of spice before a sour mustiness becomes overbearing. Not my cup of tea (or beer). Possibly a bad bottle, or maybe just my taste buds. Either way, I don't like it.

Mouthfeel is a little thin, very little carbonation. None of us made it all the way through our glasses. Label was different, though. (685 characters)

Photo of Metalmonk
3.86/5  rDev +14.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours out a sizzling head, certainly one of the noisiest heads ever, as it snaps, crackles and pops on top of the hazy rust/amber color underneath. Tons of carbonation, and some floaters, this one looks raw and authentic.

Aroma is fruity and spicy, made just a bit deviant smelling thanks to the influence of the yeast. For all the activity of the head, it doesn't let off much aroma, as what's here is quite subdued.

Flavor is pretty wild, a tough one to get a handle on. It's got fruitiness at the forefront, but the fruit succulence has been molested by sour and spicy elements. There's a chocolate-y weirdness that meshes well with a desserty port-like element. Cola flavor is present too, made stronger by the fact of the intense, almost soda-like carbonation. Finishes with a musty spiciness that twists into bitterness, laying on the tongue for the duration.

One of Belgium's most interesting beers, its taste is an acquired one, and maybe lacking some direction...some might even call it a mess, but its personality cannot be denied. I enjoyed it quite a bit. (1,077 characters)

Photo of Bierman9
3.76/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Enjoyed from a 750ml botlle, obtained at the Belgian Beer Fest. No freshness date/info found. Bottle was capped and also corked... I'm not sure I like what that Pig is doing with the towel on the label, though. Not my kind of cleanliness! Ha!! And, unlike the pig on the pictured bottle, the one on my label is wearing lipstick and facing left, wearing a t-shirt with a heart on it with an arrow shooting upwards to the right, like the symbol for "male". How bizarre!

Pours an enticing mahogany hue, with some garnet highlights along with a slight bit of cloudiness . Some carbo is rising within, helping form a thin, tan, fine head. Aroma has fruity notes, with a little sourness, if that can be smelled. Reminds me of the Rodenbach aroma. Body is in the medium range, with acceptable smoothness, though it has a bubbly/prickly feel, akin to a Weissbier.

Flavor comes on with some light sweetness; a nice start. Has some fruity character, with a smidge of tartness, though nowhere near like what some people have experienced with this "Pig". Again, some fruitiness like apple, pear, maybe a hint of cherry... tartness is present but not as a negative... A decent but fairly simple bier... No need to look for the drain; it goes down well... and it doesn't hurt that my BC Eagles are laying a whuppin' on the Maryland Terps on the gridiron right now... ;-)

Prosit!!

overall: 3.9
appearance: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | mouthfeel: 3.5 | drinkability: 3.5

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Photo of biegaman
3/5  rDev -11%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

In short, I didnt like it. Firstly (though last in relevance) I dont like this brewery and their odd labels, plain odd. Never been impressed with its beer, but of course, approach with an open mind...
To be more integral, the beer put forth a pleasant aroma, but with little complexity. Body was flat with a slight sharpness in the taste. Past that very little flavour development and the beer only got worse as it warmed. Generally off-putting, slightly displeasing and not overly quaffable. I wouldn't reccommend bothering. It's beers like this that make me question Belgium's reputation as best beer country. Then again, what country doesnt have its blemishes... (*cough Molsons...shiver* Canadian) (702 characters)

Photo of flannelman808
3.9/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

pours a dark amber color with bone white head. The beers aroma is unleased as soon as its uncorked. It smells of spices, and has a slight vinegar hint. The taste is very tart, not bitter but does not become sweet like a normal lambic. It finishes on a peppery note, and has medium body. Although its 9% alcohal it is a very drinkable beer. The sour character outweighs the beers strength.
overall a good unique brew. (417 characters)

Vapeur Cochonne from Brasserie à Vapeur
78 out of 100 based on 135 ratings.