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Schwarzer Abt - Klosterbrauerei Neuzelle GmbH

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BA SCORE
66
poor

42 Ratings
THE BROS
38
awful

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Ratings: 42
Reviews: 36
rAvg: 2.64
pDev: 42.42%
Wants: 0
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Klosterbrauerei Neuzelle GmbH visit their website
Germany

Style | ABV
Schwarzbier |  3.90% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: John on 08-20-2002)
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Photo of brakspear
5/5  rDev +89.4%

Wow! What an amazing beer to stumble upon. Best German Schwarzbier I have tasted. The Black Abbott is a beer to search for....

Pours midnight black and appears very well carbonated, but not overly so. A nice soft tan head forms and perches on top like a cloud. The aroma is rich, earthy, and breadlike with crisp roasted chocolate undertones. The taste is mellow and smooth with no harshness: chocolate, roasted -- perfect. The mouthfeel is also rich and thick, but not cloying. A great, great beer for those who can appreciate its ebony richness.

brakspear, Oct 10, 2002
Photo of ledemie
4.88/5  rDev +84.8%

I am very surprise about the other ratings, my bottle came straight from Germany, a friend brought it ( a German) and recommended it, I wonder if they do not travel well or are too old...

v: Black and opaque color, luxurious, sticky tan head.

S:Dark roasty sweet, chocolate, molasses, a really nice beer.

M: is nice a smooth. silky smooth light body.

D:Truly an exceptional schwarzbier. Seek this out. the balance of that beer is outstanding, still do not understand the F grade of this beer, I guess it was a bad bottle...

no Pairing:

ledemie, Sep 25, 2009
Photo of John
4.8/5  rDev +81.8%

Every once in a while a beer comes along that makes you stop everyting else you're doing and focus on it. This is one of those beers. Black and opaque color, luxurious, sticky tan head. Dark roasty sweet, chocolatey, trace alcohol aroma. Those elements are noted in the flavor as well as some molasses. Mouthfeel is substantial, grainy, almost gritty. I had to restrain myself from chugging this rich, smooth treat. Truly an exceptional schwarzbier. Seek this out.

John, Aug 20, 2002
Photo of Bunnyhop
4.63/5  rDev +75.4%

A clear, very dark red-brown Black Lager with a largish tan, creamy head. The smell is sweet and malty along with coffee. The taste is also SWEET and malty finishing like strong coffee. The texture in my mouth is firm. I found this beer to be fabulous, although very sweet; I would drink more as a dessert beer.

(source: Savannah, GA)

Bunnyhop, Feb 02, 2003
Photo of fattyre
4.35/5  rDev +64.8%

This beer pours a clear very dark red/brown with a large tan creamy head and a firm mouthfeel. The smell is a smokey malt with hints of coffee-very pleasant. The taste is a smokey very sweet malt with little or no hop character. I really enjoyed this beer and think it would be very good as a dessert beer although I could really drink it any time. The sweetness could be overpowering though, and if you find the thought of sweetness and beer not very palatable you might want to pass on this one.

fattyre, Mar 19, 2003
Photo of TinusTime
3.98/5  rDev +50.8%

This is a lager? This tastes more like a porter than anything else. Granted I had this after a few Weiss beers, but the cocoa and coffee notes were the overwhelming influence on this bier. Pours a nice dark dark black with a tan head that hung around long enough for a cup of coffee. Very different from the other black biers I have had, much deeper in flavour and richer in the mouth.. I would like to give it a higher score, but against the type it doesnt hold up, but it would make a great porter

TinusTime, Jul 15, 2004
Photo of Shiredave
3.88/5  rDev +47%

Very pretty beer, looks almost like Guinness, tight, tan, ever present head, but not as brown, with a deep burgandy, nearly purple caste in the light. Very dark for a schwartz.
Aroma is clean and light- ripe plums with some smokiness.
Soft on the tongue going in, intensely sweet with flavors of carmelized dark grains and juicy plums and pears. Sweet, rich German malt flavors coat your mouth making you think your drinking something much bigger and stronger than a < 4% beer.
Finish is clean, with a nice husky grain and mild hop bitter aftertaste. Totally recomended if you like dark lagers and Double Bocks. May be too sweet for some.

Shiredave, Jul 04, 2003
Photo of Bierman9
3.85/5  rDev +45.8%

I had set this out on the counter before drinking, and upon popping the cap I got a bit of a foam-over. No big deal....into the glass with no probs....has a deep chestnut color, with no transparency whatsoever. Head was initially quite large, rocky, and light tan in color. After a few minutes it shrank to a fine, 1/4" layer. Not much lacing to speak of, though. Nose was a roasty, slightly cola-like offering, yet it was not overly pronounced. I found the body was about middle of the road, yet it was quite carbonated, and really fizzed up and became bubbly on the tongue. The flavor characteristics were a bit hard to pin down. It had a somewhat roasty aspect to it, with a hint of chocolate, yet there was a fair amount of sweetness throughout. Bottom line is that I rather like this bier...it has a certain "je ne sais quoi".... Prosit!!

overall: 3.85
appearance: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | mouthfeel: 3.5 | drinkability: 4

521

Bierman9, Apr 01, 2003
Photo of yen157
3.68/5  rDev +39.4%

Creamy, light brown head on top of a typical schwarzbier body. Sweet, coffeeish, roasty nose. Sweetness reminded me of of cola. Taste was slightly roasty up front. Tasty juicy malt was not too think. Mouth feel was slick and not too carbonated. All of the beer I've had by these guys have been perfectly carbonated. Bitterness from hops pairs well with the black malt astringency. The beer was a bit thin, but I've found this to be thie the case with the style. With that in mind, it's body was just fine.

yen157, Dec 15, 2003
Photo of granger10
3.58/5  rDev +35.6%

Poured an opaque blackness with a smallish tan head. It looked a little thin and watery and tasted slightly thin but not as thin as it looked. I would have to say this is by far the sweetest beer I have ever had. It tasted like straight sugar, more sugary than coke. The were some other flavors like molasses, roastiness, and hops but they couldn't sway that sugary front. I drank this one fast because it was so easy going down and the lacked of complexity or thickness made it very uncomplicated. Truly an interesting beer.

granger10, Dec 18, 2003
Photo of marburg
3.58/5  rDev +35.6%

Velvety opaque blackness. Eternal night. Really. Head is pronounced but lacks any retention whatsoever. Lightly smoked roasty aromas. Very subtle, though. Aroma is not powerful by any means.

Immediate flavor is a one-dimensional sugary taste. Feels like licking sugar-coated satin sheets. Almost eeriely smooth. Candy-like.

With an even stranger twist, the sweetness is almost entirely mopped up in a bizarre re-emergence of the light roasted presence from the aroma. Hinting at flavor more than engaging the tongue. Then again, perhaps that's just the case in comparison to the initial wave of sugary flavor.

Perfectly constructed mouthfeel for a schwarzbier. Smooth, silky, and light -- despite the visual indications to the contrary.

Pretty damn drinkable if you can get past the intense genesis of the taste "experience."

marburg, Nov 09, 2003
Photo of ADR
3.53/5  rDev +33.7%

Like all Neuzelle beers I've had, opaque black, a little brown light shows through. Tannish head, milky and leaving very delicate lace. Extremely malty aroma, blueberry pancake syrup and grains. Man this stuff is full, but jeez, its sweet -- sugar on berries, Frosted Flakes in the morning, the hyper sucrose raisins from the Raisin Bran box -- all lay in the mouth like a milkshake that's just recently melted. Carbonation is very low and the end is marked by just an uptick of cough syrup phenols and a speck of brightness. The bottle talks about a "roasty" flavor, I don't see that getting much traction in how it plays out. If you are in the mood, its drinkable, if you're not, its gloppy and cartoonish. It shares many malt flavor similarities to its dark brewery siblings from Nuezelle, but the degree varies. Though its been some time, the Badebier comes out as the best for me, this is like an evaporated milk version.

ADR, Nov 21, 2004
Photo of Sigmund
3.53/5  rDev +33.7%

(500 ml bottle, bought in Norway). Pours with a good lasting head, colour is black (= very dark brown to ruby). Very nice aroma of hayloft, some barnyard, molasses, dark syrup, coffee and German bakery. Flavour and aftertaste have interesting rich malty notes with some roastiness, but are unfortunately ruined by the invertsugar syrup which has been added to the brew. Must be another beer for "convalescents and nursing mothers".

Sigmund, Jul 15, 2004
Photo of Gueuzedude
3.15/5  rDev +19.3%

The beer is made by the Klosterbrauerei Neuzelle and it has a catch, at bottling a dose of invert sugar is added to the bottle. It is very sweet and nutty with a mild roast character. The color is black to deep garnet/red (but only if held into the light). This beer has a low body to sweetness ratio, the closest beer, that I have had, would be Mackeson's triple stout, but it does not have the fullness of body that milk stout has. Of course the Schwarz cannot be labeled a beer in Germany as the sugar added at bottling violates the Rheinheitsgebot. The brewery has been brewing beer using invert sugar for hundreds of years, ever since that upstart beer purity law was adopted they have no longer been able to say that it is beer. See the Reinheitsgebot is not the end all and be all of brewing, though I will admit that this beer is not incredible, interesting though.

Gueuzedude, Nov 04, 2003
Photo of maxpower
3.1/5  rDev +17.4%

Dark brownish almost black in color, nice wispy brown head that leaves a good lacing in my glass, faint roasted coffee malt aroma, decent roasted malty flavors, light bodied with a somewhat watery mouthfeel, it has a nice roasty bitter finish, average for the style, decent.

maxpower, Jul 31, 2004
Photo of cokes
2.83/5  rDev +7.2%

Basically black. Sure, it's dark ruby if you hold it to a light. But look at it sitting there. It looks black. Gray-tan foam above.
Roasty and minorly smoky nose.
Begins with a grilled meat and smokiness akin to their bathbeer. Then in rushes a huge wave of saccharine sweetness. Hello, Sweet and Low! Lingers over-sweetly, as brown sugar creeps in. Hopping is not of note.
Thinnish and relatively drinkable if you like your coffee with 6 packets of artificial sweetner. Otherwise, it's a bit hard to swallow.

This became more palatable as I acclimated myself to the sweetness. But unless you crave raw sugar, this is not something I'd recommend. Their Bathbeer (Badebier) was eons better.

cokes, Sep 26, 2003
Photo of stcules
2.78/5  rDev +5.3%

Almost black beer with highlight of mahogany and rubies, with cappuccino foam, not too thin and compact but very persistent.
The smell is characterized by roasted malts and dark, a little roasted, a thread of smoke with hints of chocolate and cappuccino.
At the taste strand out clearly flavored licorice effect (seems it was intentionally added) that then it is quite exaggerated and cloying. In the background you still perceive the roasted and toasted malts. In the aftertaste too the licorice has an initial impact which then gives way too sweet caramel (maybe candy sugar).
Then the beer is not convincing right to the end, because the addition of sugar (specifically declared on the label) damages the ease of drinking beer.

stcules, Mar 31, 2010
Photo of Brabander
2.75/5  rDev +4.2%

Brabander, Apr 20, 2014
Photo of nomad
2.63/5  rDev -0.4%

Ha ha ha ha - ah, this beer makes me laugh. See, I knew what I was getting myself into before I drank it, unlike some of the sorry souls who didn't. Yeah, its sweet - so what? Its fun how it completely turned the table on typical beer drinking - instead of roasty flavors with maybe a sweet lilt through out, this is sweet flavors with a small roasty tinge from front to end.

Jet black with no head retention, it tastes and smells like unfermented wort. If you've never brewed beer, well, this is what unfermented wort tastes like. A small coffee-like accent peaks around the immense sugar, probably from de-bittered chocolate malt (hence the extreme dark color but little dark flavor).

Its a bit much, but does go really well with spicy, roasty, and otherwise strongly-powered and palette-drying food. A bit bracing even if you're expecting it, but fun nonetheless.

nomad, Dec 03, 2004
Photo of lstokes
2.45/5  rDev -7.2%

The Germans who served this to me were thrilled when I started asking them about how it wasn't brewed to the Reinheitsgebot and is that why it wasn't labeled as a beer...

Turns out this tiny brewery got a lot of free publicity a few years back in a lawsuit over this beer. It's always been brewed with sugar syrup, they were claiming that this was a "traditional style" issue, other people thought no, that didn't count, this style that this one brewery had invented wasn't documented well enough, this wasn't beer. There were a lot of lawsuits.

Finally I guess some sort of compromise was reached--you'll notice it's called a "Bräu," not a beer, but does say "Schwarzbier" on the bottom of the label. Of course they got more customers during the "Brandenburger Beer Wars" than they had ever had before, including my Germans.

Unfortunate, because as much as I hate the Reinheitsgebot, this shouldn't be the poster child for what you can do when you throw it off. Black as night, lovely foam and lacing, and silky smooth mouthfeel without bubbles--it didn't feel like anybody had added sugar syrup!--but the taste is damn sweet. Lord. After a while I felt like I was drinking sugared-up Coke with just a bit of roast character--and I can't finish Coke because it's too sweet, so this was a struggle.

...but hey, if this is really the only beer brewed in this style, maybe I should have given it all fives.

lstokes, Sep 27, 2009
Photo of oberon
2.2/5  rDev -16.7%

Wow was this beer a dud pours a deep ruby near black with no head and I mean no head to speak of.The aroma was decent some darck chocolate and a touch of nuttiness,talk about cloying sweetness I couldnt drink more than 4 sips my mouth was already coated with a sticky film.Bottle date says 7-04 not sure if it goes bad after that or if it was brewed on that date I really hope the former cuzz this was pretty bad.

oberon, Sep 05, 2004
Photo of dmbfrat420beers
2.2/5  rDev -16.7%

Nice and dark brown with a large light tan head of small bubbles. Aroma is clean with notes of raison. Tastes sweet with raisons, brown sugar, chocolate and some roasted malts. I realized after opening this one that it contains some kind of syrup (“Invertzuckersirup”). I guess it’s not awful, but just way too sweet. Mouthfeel is medium-bodied, good carbonation, fairly normal. Cloying sweetness, ended up pouring the rest out after 250ml. Seems like the actual beer in here is not so bad, but I would avoid this unless you like syrup with your beer.

dmbfrat420beers, May 13, 2007
Photo of Mitchster
2.13/5  rDev -19.3%

"A rare black beer from Germany's Monastery Brewery founded 1589"-"the taste of paradise".

Pours out to a near-black, very very dark brown, forming a small tan head with average retention and lacing. Carbonation is mild. Aroma of molasses, milk chocolate, prunes, and a touch of coffee...reminds me more of a baltic porter...nice:) Mouthfeel is smooth and syrupy. Taste...prune juice mixed with corn syrup sprinkled with sugar and sweet and low. Very very sweet, probably the sweetest beer I've had next to Leiny's Berry-Weisse. This is as sweet as cider folks. Touch of coffee and roasted grains in the finish. No bitterness to comment on. Sweet, syrupy aftertaste.

Interesting...yes. Good...resoundingly no. I'd like more beer to go with my sugar, please. This blasphemy of a beer goes down the kitchen sink. Uck. Stay away.

Mitchster, Sep 07, 2004
Photo of Globetrotter
2.1/5  rDev -20.5%

Comes in a brown long neck half liter bottle with a black and gold label featuring a happy abbot holding a mug and wagging his finger. Ingredients include invert sugar syrup. Yuck. Best before 11/5/04, I opened it on 8/4/04.

Pours a very nice deep yet clear burgundy under a lovely tan 2+ finger tan head that recedes slowly leaving significant lace. The nose is a bit sweet, but there's still lots of caramel to keep you interested. The mouth is fairly well carbonated and quite light. The taste is all sugar syrup. Wow, this is way too sweet. I'm searching desperately here for signs of the beer that goes with the sugar. OK, a touch of caramel (also sweet), and a hint of hops in the finish that try to fight their way through the sugar cane forest. They don't exactly make it. Like the proverbial spoonful of sugar that makes the medicine go down, this is way too sweet to be good. No, no, no...

Globetrotter, Aug 04, 2004
Photo of Caml
2.03/5  rDev -23.1%

On tap at Hotel Till Eulenspiegel's Bierkeller in Würzburg(Probably the coolest bar I've yet seen in Germany), served in a narrow .3l mug.

Appearance- Didn't really have much of a light to check it against, but it was a very opaque brown, darkest German beer I've seen in a while, with a nice, soft, almost creamy head that rather resemble the bubbles on top of Swiss Miss. My first impression was something along the lines of: OMGKBS! That was about as good as it got.

Smell- My nose isn't terribly good, but I managed to pick out a little standard roastiness. Nothing special, nothing really off-putting either.

Taste- When the Bierliste said Caramel, Bitter Chocolate, and Coffee, they meant it. Except maybe the "Bitter" part. No bitterness, no backbone, no balance. Sweet Jesus, no balance. I didn't know anything about the brewery and didn't see the bottle, so I was quite amazed that such unchecked palate-sticking sweetness could come from pure malt. When I found out it was beer with sugar syrup added, I was kind of surprised, mainly because I thought they must have used some chocolate syrup and Starbucks syrup as well. I swear I could still feel it cloying to the back of my mouth when I woke up the next morning. Needless to say, hops nor anything that resembled them showed up at any point, regardless of temperature.

Mouthfeel- Not too shabby, thick and pleasantly soft for a few swishes. Later though, it becomes hard to distinguish the feel of the beer in your mouth and the chewy residue of sugar on your palate.

Drinkability- It was pleasantly different for the first few sips before the sweetness really started to build up, but after that it was simply a chore, even though I only got roughly 10oz. The sweetness and trying-too-hard flavor features are just too powerful and too persistent to make for an enjoyable drink. And the looks you get from the waiter and other patrons for drinking "Mädelbier" don't help.

Caml, Jan 21, 2010
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Schwarzer Abt from Klosterbrauerei Neuzelle GmbH
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