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Schwarzer Abt - Klosterbrauerei Neuzelle GmbH

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BA SCORE
67
poor

41 Ratings
THE BROS
38
awful

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Ratings: 41
Reviews: 36
rAvg: 2.66
pDev: 42.11%


Brewed by:
Klosterbrauerei Neuzelle GmbH visit their website
Germany

Style | ABV
Schwarzbier |  3.90% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: John on 08-20-2002)
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RuudJH

Netherlands

1.5/5  rDev -43.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Bought on a short trip to Germany. 0,5 l bottle.
Smell is roasty, ashy even... so far so good. It's a black beer. One expects a robust flavour.... but the taste is just strange. Not bitter as it should be. It seems the brewer had this beer taste sweet and added some artificial sweetener. It's terrible.
It's an unpleasant experience overall. I didn't drink more than a few sips.

Serving type: bottle

11-09-2013 09:58:38 | More by RuudJH
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kjyost

Manitoba (Canada)

1.2/5  rDev -54.9%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

How in the hell is this beer supposedly "Average"? I am looking forward to reading the good reviews. Given to me by a brewing friend so that I could "get it out my house, I'll never drink it", in fact our brewing club is making a Schwarzbier this year as a club brew and he challenged me that not a single person could conceivably make a worse beer. Sadly he was right.

Pours a fine dark body with minimal head that drops quickly. The nose? Banana. That's right in a lager it is full of ripe banana and not much else. The body itself made me realize it was a drain pour in the first sip. Syrupy sweetness, and let's be honest here I have no clue what else there is in this beer as it went down the sink after two sips (a new record!!). It is a shitty alcho-pop. God awful tripe. Life is too short to drink shit like this.

Shame on you MLCC for bringing this shit to our province. The only good thing about a liquor monopoly should be portecting me from finding beer this horrible, yet you insist on bringing this steaming pile of sweetened cow dung in place of other craft beer from Canada...

Serving type: bottle

11-08-2012 00:17:40 | More by kjyost
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rinhaak

Massachusetts

1.53/5  rDev -42.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

0.5 litre bottle, purchased in Darmstadt.

Pours a very dark red, nearly black, with a full head that faded fairly quickly.

The nose is sweet (in a rotten-fruit sort of way) with a lot of smoke, cherry, and rum aromas.

The beer, which is very syrupy in mouthfeel, tastes horrifically sweet, with faint flavors of smoke, cherry cough syrup, and stale coffee.

Overall, this is among the worst beers I have ever had in my life. The first sip alone was nearly enough to make me gag. I could barely finish six sips before I threw the rest away. They add an inverted sugar syrup to the beer, and this is in no way balanced with everything else. The result is a syrupy mess of a drink that resembles NyQuil far more than it does beer.

Avoid it. At all costs.

Serving type: bottle

10-18-2011 08:22:57 | More by rinhaak
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stcules

Italy

2.78/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Almost black beer with highlight of mahogany and rubies, with cappuccino foam, not too thin and compact but very persistent.
The smell is characterized by roasted malts and dark, a little roasted, a thread of smoke with hints of chocolate and cappuccino.
At the taste strand out clearly flavored licorice effect (seems it was intentionally added) that then it is quite exaggerated and cloying. In the background you still perceive the roasted and toasted malts. In the aftertaste too the licorice has an initial impact which then gives way too sweet caramel (maybe candy sugar).
Then the beer is not convincing right to the end, because the addition of sugar (specifically declared on the label) damages the ease of drinking beer.

Serving type: bottle

03-31-2010 20:08:40 | More by stcules
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lstokes

Illinois

2.45/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

The Germans who served this to me were thrilled when I started asking them about how it wasn't brewed to the Reinheitsgebot and is that why it wasn't labeled as a beer...

Turns out this tiny brewery got a lot of free publicity a few years back in a lawsuit over this beer. It's always been brewed with sugar syrup, they were claiming that this was a "traditional style" issue, other people thought no, that didn't count, this style that this one brewery had invented wasn't documented well enough, this wasn't beer. There were a lot of lawsuits.

Finally I guess some sort of compromise was reached--you'll notice it's called a "Bräu," not a beer, but does say "Schwarzbier" on the bottom of the label. Of course they got more customers during the "Brandenburger Beer Wars" than they had ever had before, including my Germans.

Unfortunate, because as much as I hate the Reinheitsgebot, this shouldn't be the poster child for what you can do when you throw it off. Black as night, lovely foam and lacing, and silky smooth mouthfeel without bubbles--it didn't feel like anybody had added sugar syrup!--but the taste is damn sweet. Lord. After a while I felt like I was drinking sugared-up Coke with just a bit of roast character--and I can't finish Coke because it's too sweet, so this was a struggle.

...but hey, if this is really the only beer brewed in this style, maybe I should have given it all fives.

Serving type: bottle

09-27-2009 07:36:06 | More by lstokes
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ledemie

New York

4.88/5  rDev +83.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I am very surprise about the other ratings, my bottle came straight from Germany, a friend brought it ( a German) and recommended it, I wonder if they do not travel well or are too old...

v: Black and opaque color, luxurious, sticky tan head.

S:Dark roasty sweet, chocolate, molasses, a really nice beer.

M: is nice a smooth. silky smooth light body.

D:Truly an exceptional schwarzbier. Seek this out. the balance of that beer is outstanding, still do not understand the F grade of this beer, I guess it was a bad bottle...

no Pairing:

Serving type: bottle

09-25-2009 18:45:36 | More by ledemie
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atis

Finland

1.65/5  rDev -38%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

500 ml bottle from Germany

Pours black with a bit fizzy darkish head that is gone quite soon, full of small carbonation bubbles, almost no lacing. Aroma is weak sweet burnt.

I read in some reviews before that the beer was sweet - but nothing could have prepared me for this amount of sugar, I was not able to taste anything except than burnt sugar with sweet roasted aftertaste. Mouthfeel is light with average carbonation.

I am very dissapointed and could not drink more than a few sips. What is interesting, my wife, who is very much into sour beers found this one to be very nice and drinkable.

Serving type: bottle

06-12-2009 19:09:29 | More by atis
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jenitivecase

Kansas

1.85/5  rDev -30.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

Let it be known that nowhere on the bottle does this beer advertise itself as anything other than a regular schwarzbier. Only by carefully reading the ingredient list can the hapless drinker notice the existence of the massive amounts of sugar in this beer (Invertzuckersirup).

A: Dark dark brown with a light tan head that dies away quickly, leaving no lacing. Carbonation continues to rise up from the bottom of the beer.

S: Malty, with definite sugary overtones, but they seem to be reasonably well balanced by a typical schwarzbier nose.

T: Oh god, sad times. I mean, I checked out this beer's profile after buying it and noticed the existence of the Invertzuckersirup, but I didn't think it was going to be quite like this. It's like someone took a perfectly decent schwarzbier, emptied out half the bottle, and replaced it with sugar - sugar that happens to have the incredibly unfortunate aftertaste of used charcoal and Robitussin. After about five sips to confirm its terribleness, I think I'm actually going to dump this out - and that's saying something.

M: It could be worse, but it's still pretty unhappy - okay going down (the carbonation helps), but the cloying, syrupy aftertaste just lingers in your mouth for what appears to be eternity, which kind of kills it for me.

D: This makes me sad and feels like quitting, but I'm going to go pour it out now. 'Nuff said.

Serving type: bottle

07-10-2008 21:14:40 | More by jenitivecase
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dmbfrat420beers

Germany

2.2/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

Nice and dark brown with a large light tan head of small bubbles. Aroma is clean with notes of raison. Tastes sweet with raisons, brown sugar, chocolate and some roasted malts. I realized after opening this one that it contains some kind of syrup (“Invertzuckersirup”). I guess it’s not awful, but just way too sweet. Mouthfeel is medium-bodied, good carbonation, fairly normal. Cloying sweetness, ended up pouring the rest out after 250ml. Seems like the actual beer in here is not so bad, but I would avoid this unless you like syrup with your beer.

Serving type: bottle

05-13-2007 07:19:28 | More by dmbfrat420beers
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HappyHourHero

Indiana

1.53/5  rDev -42.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

The color is black, believe it or not. A nice oatmeal colored head sits on top. Dark malt in the aroma comes off as leather and spent gun powder (that's a first!). So the smell is.... weird. The flavor is freakishly sweet and damn near the grossest beer I've had. It tastes like flat cola mixed with coffee grinds and cigarette butts. Damn!!! Yuck! There are even hints of smoked malt in the flavor and aroma in the form of leather and salami. The mouthfeel is akin to a glass of sugar water. What the hell were they thinking when they released this beer. It's a Schwarzbier in that it's black, but otherwise it's just a mess of a beer that sucks.

Serving type: bottle

04-08-2007 21:56:54 | More by HappyHourHero
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walleye

Michigan

1.6/5  rDev -39.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

from the bottle. poured dark brown, with tan head.aroma, roasted malts, caramel, molasses, cherries, honey. flavor smoke sweet. maple syrup, honey, cherries, malts. this was not a good beer. maybe they should up the alcohol and make it a sweet wine. will not buy this one again

Serving type: bottle

12-18-2004 04:34:31 | More by walleye
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nomad

Kansas

2.63/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Ha ha ha ha - ah, this beer makes me laugh. See, I knew what I was getting myself into before I drank it, unlike some of the sorry souls who didn't. Yeah, its sweet - so what? Its fun how it completely turned the table on typical beer drinking - instead of roasty flavors with maybe a sweet lilt through out, this is sweet flavors with a small roasty tinge from front to end.

Jet black with no head retention, it tastes and smells like unfermented wort. If you've never brewed beer, well, this is what unfermented wort tastes like. A small coffee-like accent peaks around the immense sugar, probably from de-bittered chocolate malt (hence the extreme dark color but little dark flavor).

Its a bit much, but does go really well with spicy, roasty, and otherwise strongly-powered and palette-drying food. A bit bracing even if you're expecting it, but fun nonetheless.

Serving type: bottle

12-03-2004 21:02:59 | More by nomad
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merlin48

Kentucky

1.98/5  rDev -25.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

1 pint 9 oz bottle with an attractive label and freshness date. Pours dark and opaque, with a small tan head that retains well and generously laces the sides of the imperial pint glass.
Aroma is decent, with dark roasted malts, wood smoke, and brown sugar. No hint of hops in the bouquet.
Mouthfeel is light to medium bodied and undercarbonated. A cloying sweetness is immediately detected.
Taste opens with candy sugar and mild floral hops. Wood smoke is prominent, but the sweetness quickly overwhelms the palate. I took another look at the label to see if it said "Sugar Added". This is, by far, the sweetest beer I've ever sampled. No hops or malts come forth to balance the cloying syrupy sweetness. Finishes very sugary, almost in an artificial sense.
Virtually no drinkability unless you want a sugary beer. Sickly sweet and cloying. I don't know what the brewery was thinking when they put this one together. Update on 02/04/05: After reading more about this style, I see that the imbibers of this style in its native environs actually added sugar to versions of this. Quite interesting, but I'm not changing my scores.

Serving type: bottle

11-28-2004 12:11:28 | More by merlin48
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ADR

Pennsylvania

3.53/5  rDev +32.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Like all Neuzelle beers I've had, opaque black, a little brown light shows through. Tannish head, milky and leaving very delicate lace. Extremely malty aroma, blueberry pancake syrup and grains. Man this stuff is full, but jeez, its sweet -- sugar on berries, Frosted Flakes in the morning, the hyper sucrose raisins from the Raisin Bran box -- all lay in the mouth like a milkshake that's just recently melted. Carbonation is very low and the end is marked by just an uptick of cough syrup phenols and a speck of brightness. The bottle talks about a "roasty" flavor, I don't see that getting much traction in how it plays out. If you are in the mood, its drinkable, if you're not, its gloppy and cartoonish. It shares many malt flavor similarities to its dark brewery siblings from Nuezelle, but the degree varies. Though its been some time, the Badebier comes out as the best for me, this is like an evaporated milk version.

Serving type: bottle

11-21-2004 20:28:58 | More by ADR
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ChrisBowers

Virginia

2/5  rDev -24.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1

Thud. That was the sound of this dud of a beer hitting the ground. Boy was I disappointed in this beer. The bottle looked quite appealing, purchased at Whole Foods in Vienna. "Germany's Abbey Beer". Hmmm. Smell is very sweet, somewhat smokey but with a good whiff of corn, even though I don't think there's any in here. Maybe a little vanilla. Taste... yuck. So sweet I almost spit it out with a finish that tastes like the but of a cigarette. I'm not kidding. This stuff is a vile brew. It left such a horrid aftertaste in my mouth I had to go drink water for a few minutes. $3 down the tubes.

Serving type: bottle

09-16-2004 23:57:23 | More by ChrisBowers
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Mitchster

Michigan

2.13/5  rDev -19.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

"A rare black beer from Germany's Monastery Brewery founded 1589"-"the taste of paradise".

Pours out to a near-black, very very dark brown, forming a small tan head with average retention and lacing. Carbonation is mild. Aroma of molasses, milk chocolate, prunes, and a touch of coffee...reminds me more of a baltic porter...nice:) Mouthfeel is smooth and syrupy. Taste...prune juice mixed with corn syrup sprinkled with sugar and sweet and low. Very very sweet, probably the sweetest beer I've had next to Leiny's Berry-Weisse. This is as sweet as cider folks. Touch of coffee and roasted grains in the finish. No bitterness to comment on. Sweet, syrupy aftertaste.

Interesting...yes. Good...resoundingly no. I'd like more beer to go with my sugar, please. This blasphemy of a beer goes down the kitchen sink. Uck. Stay away.

Serving type: bottle

09-07-2004 23:30:41 | More by Mitchster
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oberon

North Carolina

2.2/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Wow was this beer a dud pours a deep ruby near black with no head and I mean no head to speak of.The aroma was decent some darck chocolate and a touch of nuttiness,talk about cloying sweetness I couldnt drink more than 4 sips my mouth was already coated with a sticky film.Bottle date says 7-04 not sure if it goes bad after that or if it was brewed on that date I really hope the former cuzz this was pretty bad.

Serving type: bottle

09-05-2004 01:14:02 | More by oberon
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allengarvin

Texas

1.98/5  rDev -25.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1

Appearance: Dark dark black, with a head that fades away quickly.

Aroma: Jelly-belly cappacino jellybeans. Really.

Flavor: A bit of malt up front followed by a cloying sweetness. Really cloying. Thin body. Not a long aftertaste, fortunately.

I have a low tolerance for most sweets, and I never add sugar to tea or coffee, and I eat maybe one or two cookies a year. I appreciate the malty sweetness in some dopplebocks, but the sweetness of this beer lacks any balance. To my taste, it is very one-dimensional, and not drinkable at all.

Serving type: bottle

08-28-2004 14:41:17 | More by allengarvin
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Brent

Kentucky

1.55/5  rDev -41.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1

Simply ghastly. Poured a nice black with a nondescript sweetish roasted malt aroma. On first sip, I was a bit shocked - quite sweet, and I though "hmm, a sweet or milk stout?" The sweetness swelled to unbearable heights. I tried to hang in there, but after a couple more sips, I could stand no more. It was as if someone had dumped the entire sugar bowl into the beer, and then added a few more lumps for good measure. This from the brewery website: "A black beer, manufactured after an old monastery prescription, which may be called however not beer and on that already much was reported in the so called "beer war". The beer, about everyone speaks, a fascination." A monastery prescription? Certainly, I've had medicine that tasted better than this.

Serving type: bottle

08-13-2004 15:27:54 | More by Brent
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Globetrotter

Virginia

2.1/5  rDev -21.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Comes in a brown long neck half liter bottle with a black and gold label featuring a happy abbot holding a mug and wagging his finger. Ingredients include invert sugar syrup. Yuck. Best before 11/5/04, I opened it on 8/4/04.

Pours a very nice deep yet clear burgundy under a lovely tan 2+ finger tan head that recedes slowly leaving significant lace. The nose is a bit sweet, but there's still lots of caramel to keep you interested. The mouth is fairly well carbonated and quite light. The taste is all sugar syrup. Wow, this is way too sweet. I'm searching desperately here for signs of the beer that goes with the sugar. OK, a touch of caramel (also sweet), and a hint of hops in the finish that try to fight their way through the sugar cane forest. They don't exactly make it. Like the proverbial spoonful of sugar that makes the medicine go down, this is way too sweet to be good. No, no, no...

Serving type: bottle

08-04-2004 18:25:36 | More by Globetrotter
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maxpower

Missouri

3.1/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Dark brownish almost black in color, nice wispy brown head that leaves a good lacing in my glass, faint roasted coffee malt aroma, decent roasted malty flavors, light bodied with a somewhat watery mouthfeel, it has a nice roasty bitter finish, average for the style, decent.

Serving type: bottle

07-31-2004 20:33:43 | More by maxpower
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Sigmund

Norway

3.53/5  rDev +32.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

(500 ml bottle, bought in Norway). Pours with a good lasting head, colour is black (= very dark brown to ruby). Very nice aroma of hayloft, some barnyard, molasses, dark syrup, coffee and German bakery. Flavour and aftertaste have interesting rich malty notes with some roastiness, but are unfortunately ruined by the invertsugar syrup which has been added to the brew. Must be another beer for "convalescents and nursing mothers".

Serving type: bottle

07-15-2004 12:41:41 | More by Sigmund
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TinusTime

Virginia

3.98/5  rDev +49.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This is a lager? This tastes more like a porter than anything else. Granted I had this after a few Weiss beers, but the cocoa and coffee notes were the overwhelming influence on this bier. Pours a nice dark dark black with a tan head that hung around long enough for a cup of coffee. Very different from the other black biers I have had, much deeper in flavour and richer in the mouth.. I would like to give it a higher score, but against the type it doesnt hold up, but it would make a great porter

Serving type: bottle

07-15-2004 03:13:15 | More by TinusTime
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granger10

Wisconsin

3.58/5  rDev +34.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured an opaque blackness with a smallish tan head. It looked a little thin and watery and tasted slightly thin but not as thin as it looked. I would have to say this is by far the sweetest beer I have ever had. It tasted like straight sugar, more sugary than coke. The were some other flavors like molasses, roastiness, and hops but they couldn't sway that sugary front. I drank this one fast because it was so easy going down and the lacked of complexity or thickness made it very uncomplicated. Truly an interesting beer.

Serving type: bottle

12-18-2003 18:45:18 | More by granger10
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yen157

New Jersey

3.68/5  rDev +38.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Creamy, light brown head on top of a typical schwarzbier body. Sweet, coffeeish, roasty nose. Sweetness reminded me of of cola. Taste was slightly roasty up front. Tasty juicy malt was not too think. Mouth feel was slick and not too carbonated. All of the beer I've had by these guys have been perfectly carbonated. Bitterness from hops pairs well with the black malt astringency. The beer was a bit thin, but I've found this to be thie the case with the style. With that in mind, it's body was just fine.

Serving type: bottle

12-15-2003 23:26:57 | More by yen157
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Schwarzer Abt from Klosterbrauerei Neuzelle GmbH
67 out of 100 based on 41 ratings.