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Schwarzer Abt - Klosterbrauerei Neuzelle GmbH

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BA SCORE
67
poor

43 Ratings
THE BROS
38
awful

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Ratings: 43
Reviews: 36
rAvg: 2.65
pDev: 41.89%
Wants: 0
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Klosterbrauerei Neuzelle GmbH visit their website
Germany

Style | ABV
Schwarzbier |  3.90% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: John on 08-20-2002)
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Photo of oberon
2.2/5  rDev -17%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Wow was this beer a dud pours a deep ruby near black with no head and I mean no head to speak of.The aroma was decent some darck chocolate and a touch of nuttiness,talk about cloying sweetness I couldnt drink more than 4 sips my mouth was already coated with a sticky film.Bottle date says 7-04 not sure if it goes bad after that or if it was brewed on that date I really hope the former cuzz this was pretty bad.

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.15/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

The beer is made by the Klosterbrauerei Neuzelle and it has a catch, at bottling a dose of invert sugar is added to the bottle. It is very sweet and nutty with a mild roast character. The color is black to deep garnet/red (but only if held into the light). This beer has a low body to sweetness ratio, the closest beer, that I have had, would be Mackeson's triple stout, but it does not have the fullness of body that milk stout has. Of course the Schwarz cannot be labeled a beer in Germany as the sugar added at bottling violates the Rheinheitsgebot. The brewery has been brewing beer using invert sugar for hundreds of years, ever since that upstart beer purity law was adopted they have no longer been able to say that it is beer. See the Reinheitsgebot is not the end all and be all of brewing, though I will admit that this beer is not incredible, interesting though.

Photo of stcules
2.78/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Almost black beer with highlight of mahogany and rubies, with cappuccino foam, not too thin and compact but very persistent.
The smell is characterized by roasted malts and dark, a little roasted, a thread of smoke with hints of chocolate and cappuccino.
At the taste strand out clearly flavored licorice effect (seems it was intentionally added) that then it is quite exaggerated and cloying. In the background you still perceive the roasted and toasted malts. In the aftertaste too the licorice has an initial impact which then gives way too sweet caramel (maybe candy sugar).
Then the beer is not convincing right to the end, because the addition of sugar (specifically declared on the label) damages the ease of drinking beer.

Photo of cokes
2.83/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Basically black. Sure, it's dark ruby if you hold it to a light. But look at it sitting there. It looks black. Gray-tan foam above.
Roasty and minorly smoky nose.
Begins with a grilled meat and smokiness akin to their bathbeer. Then in rushes a huge wave of saccharine sweetness. Hello, Sweet and Low! Lingers over-sweetly, as brown sugar creeps in. Hopping is not of note.
Thinnish and relatively drinkable if you like your coffee with 6 packets of artificial sweetner. Otherwise, it's a bit hard to swallow.

This became more palatable as I acclimated myself to the sweetness. But unless you crave raw sugar, this is not something I'd recommend. Their Bathbeer (Badebier) was eons better.

Photo of Brent
1.55/5  rDev -41.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1

Simply ghastly. Poured a nice black with a nondescript sweetish roasted malt aroma. On first sip, I was a bit shocked - quite sweet, and I though "hmm, a sweet or milk stout?" The sweetness swelled to unbearable heights. I tried to hang in there, but after a couple more sips, I could stand no more. It was as if someone had dumped the entire sugar bowl into the beer, and then added a few more lumps for good measure. This from the brewery website: "A black beer, manufactured after an old monastery prescription, which may be called however not beer and on that already much was reported in the so called "beer war". The beer, about everyone speaks, a fascination." A monastery prescription? Certainly, I've had medicine that tasted better than this.

Photo of Bierman9
3.85/5  rDev +45.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I had set this out on the counter before drinking, and upon popping the cap I got a bit of a foam-over. No big deal....into the glass with no probs....has a deep chestnut color, with no transparency whatsoever. Head was initially quite large, rocky, and light tan in color. After a few minutes it shrank to a fine, 1/4" layer. Not much lacing to speak of, though. Nose was a roasty, slightly cola-like offering, yet it was not overly pronounced. I found the body was about middle of the road, yet it was quite carbonated, and really fizzed up and became bubbly on the tongue. The flavor characteristics were a bit hard to pin down. It had a somewhat roasty aspect to it, with a hint of chocolate, yet there was a fair amount of sweetness throughout. Bottom line is that I rather like this bier...it has a certain "je ne sais quoi".... Prosit!!

overall: 3.85
appearance: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | mouthfeel: 3.5 | drinkability: 4

521

Photo of merlin48
1.98/5  rDev -25.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

1 pint 9 oz bottle with an attractive label and freshness date. Pours dark and opaque, with a small tan head that retains well and generously laces the sides of the imperial pint glass.
Aroma is decent, with dark roasted malts, wood smoke, and brown sugar. No hint of hops in the bouquet.
Mouthfeel is light to medium bodied and undercarbonated. A cloying sweetness is immediately detected.
Taste opens with candy sugar and mild floral hops. Wood smoke is prominent, but the sweetness quickly overwhelms the palate. I took another look at the label to see if it said "Sugar Added". This is, by far, the sweetest beer I've ever sampled. No hops or malts come forth to balance the cloying syrupy sweetness. Finishes very sugary, almost in an artificial sense.
Virtually no drinkability unless you want a sugary beer. Sickly sweet and cloying. I don't know what the brewery was thinking when they put this one together. Update on 02/04/05: After reading more about this style, I see that the imbibers of this style in its native environs actually added sugar to versions of this. Quite interesting, but I'm not changing my scores.

Photo of allengarvin
1.98/5  rDev -25.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1

Appearance: Dark dark black, with a head that fades away quickly.

Aroma: Jelly-belly cappacino jellybeans. Really.

Flavor: A bit of malt up front followed by a cloying sweetness. Really cloying. Thin body. Not a long aftertaste, fortunately.

I have a low tolerance for most sweets, and I never add sugar to tea or coffee, and I eat maybe one or two cookies a year. I appreciate the malty sweetness in some dopplebocks, but the sweetness of this beer lacks any balance. To my taste, it is very one-dimensional, and not drinkable at all.

Photo of Mitchster
2.13/5  rDev -19.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

"A rare black beer from Germany's Monastery Brewery founded 1589"-"the taste of paradise".

Pours out to a near-black, very very dark brown, forming a small tan head with average retention and lacing. Carbonation is mild. Aroma of molasses, milk chocolate, prunes, and a touch of coffee...reminds me more of a baltic porter...nice:) Mouthfeel is smooth and syrupy. Taste...prune juice mixed with corn syrup sprinkled with sugar and sweet and low. Very very sweet, probably the sweetest beer I've had next to Leiny's Berry-Weisse. This is as sweet as cider folks. Touch of coffee and roasted grains in the finish. No bitterness to comment on. Sweet, syrupy aftertaste.

Interesting...yes. Good...resoundingly no. I'd like more beer to go with my sugar, please. This blasphemy of a beer goes down the kitchen sink. Uck. Stay away.

Photo of Todd
1.4/5  rDev -47.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

Presentation: 0.5l bottle purchased and consumed in Berlin, Germany. Freshness date and map to the brewery on the back. What got my attention was: "Die Rarität aus Schwarzbier mit nachträglichem Invertzuckersirupzusatz" ... which transaltes to: "The rare piece from black beer with additional Invert sugar syrup additive." Hmm? Sugar syrup in my Schwarzbier!! Sod that!!

Appearance: Pours a black beer with fine ruby edges, topped with a creamy, tight, tan lace head. Mediocre retention.

Smell: Coffee syrup-like aromas, some caramel. Seems odd. Contrived.

Taste: Raw sugar sweetness up-front that's hard to shake. Burnt sugar next with some earth notes and day old stale coffee. No discernable beer characters of malt or hops. Flavours linger into the finish, too long and to the point of nearly making me feel ill with sugar shock.

Notes: Way too sweet, in fact after drinking half the bottle I got a head rush, followed by a head ache. Absolutely disgusting and an utter disgrace to the Schwarbier style!

I'm not surprised though given all of the new "sugar+schwarzbier" and "cola+schwarzbier" products that are hitting the German market nearly as fast as alcopops hit the US -- the schwarzbiers are pasteurized and the sugar added.

Very disappointed.

Photo of schopenhauerale
1/5  rDev -62.3%

Photo of ADR
3.53/5  rDev +33.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Like all Neuzelle beers I've had, opaque black, a little brown light shows through. Tannish head, milky and leaving very delicate lace. Extremely malty aroma, blueberry pancake syrup and grains. Man this stuff is full, but jeez, its sweet -- sugar on berries, Frosted Flakes in the morning, the hyper sucrose raisins from the Raisin Bran box -- all lay in the mouth like a milkshake that's just recently melted. Carbonation is very low and the end is marked by just an uptick of cough syrup phenols and a speck of brightness. The bottle talks about a "roasty" flavor, I don't see that getting much traction in how it plays out. If you are in the mood, its drinkable, if you're not, its gloppy and cartoonish. It shares many malt flavor similarities to its dark brewery siblings from Nuezelle, but the degree varies. Though its been some time, the Badebier comes out as the best for me, this is like an evaporated milk version.

Photo of Globetrotter
2.1/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Comes in a brown long neck half liter bottle with a black and gold label featuring a happy abbot holding a mug and wagging his finger. Ingredients include invert sugar syrup. Yuck. Best before 11/5/04, I opened it on 8/4/04.

Pours a very nice deep yet clear burgundy under a lovely tan 2+ finger tan head that recedes slowly leaving significant lace. The nose is a bit sweet, but there's still lots of caramel to keep you interested. The mouth is fairly well carbonated and quite light. The taste is all sugar syrup. Wow, this is way too sweet. I'm searching desperately here for signs of the beer that goes with the sugar. OK, a touch of caramel (also sweet), and a hint of hops in the finish that try to fight their way through the sugar cane forest. They don't exactly make it. Like the proverbial spoonful of sugar that makes the medicine go down, this is way too sweet to be good. No, no, no...

Photo of granger10
3.58/5  rDev +35.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured an opaque blackness with a smallish tan head. It looked a little thin and watery and tasted slightly thin but not as thin as it looked. I would have to say this is by far the sweetest beer I have ever had. It tasted like straight sugar, more sugary than coke. The were some other flavors like molasses, roastiness, and hops but they couldn't sway that sugary front. I drank this one fast because it was so easy going down and the lacked of complexity or thickness made it very uncomplicated. Truly an interesting beer.

Photo of Brabander
2.75/5  rDev +3.8%

Photo of kjyost
1.2/5  rDev -54.7%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

How in the hell is this beer supposedly "Average"? I am looking forward to reading the good reviews. Given to me by a brewing friend so that I could "get it out my house, I'll never drink it", in fact our brewing club is making a Schwarzbier this year as a club brew and he challenged me that not a single person could conceivably make a worse beer. Sadly he was right.

Pours a fine dark body with minimal head that drops quickly. The nose? Banana. That's right in a lager it is full of ripe banana and not much else. The body itself made me realize it was a drain pour in the first sip. Syrupy sweetness, and let's be honest here I have no clue what else there is in this beer as it went down the sink after two sips (a new record!!). It is a shitty alcho-pop. God awful tripe. Life is too short to drink shit like this.

Shame on you MLCC for bringing this shit to our province. The only good thing about a liquor monopoly should be portecting me from finding beer this horrible, yet you insist on bringing this steaming pile of sweetened cow dung in place of other craft beer from Canada...

Photo of maxpower
3.1/5  rDev +17%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Dark brownish almost black in color, nice wispy brown head that leaves a good lacing in my glass, faint roasted coffee malt aroma, decent roasted malty flavors, light bodied with a somewhat watery mouthfeel, it has a nice roasty bitter finish, average for the style, decent.

Photo of HappyHourHero
1.53/5  rDev -42.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

The color is black, believe it or not. A nice oatmeal colored head sits on top. Dark malt in the aroma comes off as leather and spent gun powder (that's a first!). So the smell is.... weird. The flavor is freakishly sweet and damn near the grossest beer I've had. It tastes like flat cola mixed with coffee grinds and cigarette butts. Damn!!! Yuck! There are even hints of smoked malt in the flavor and aroma in the form of leather and salami. The mouthfeel is akin to a glass of sugar water. What the hell were they thinking when they released this beer. It's a Schwarzbier in that it's black, but otherwise it's just a mess of a beer that sucks.

Photo of Sigmund
3.53/5  rDev +33.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

(500 ml bottle, bought in Norway). Pours with a good lasting head, colour is black (= very dark brown to ruby). Very nice aroma of hayloft, some barnyard, molasses, dark syrup, coffee and German bakery. Flavour and aftertaste have interesting rich malty notes with some roastiness, but are unfortunately ruined by the invertsugar syrup which has been added to the brew. Must be another beer for "convalescents and nursing mothers".

Photo of John
4.8/5  rDev +81.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Every once in a while a beer comes along that makes you stop everyting else you're doing and focus on it. This is one of those beers. Black and opaque color, luxurious, sticky tan head. Dark roasty sweet, chocolatey, trace alcohol aroma. Those elements are noted in the flavor as well as some molasses. Mouthfeel is substantial, grainy, almost gritty. I had to restrain myself from chugging this rich, smooth treat. Truly an exceptional schwarzbier. Seek this out.

Photo of marburg
3.58/5  rDev +35.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Velvety opaque blackness. Eternal night. Really. Head is pronounced but lacks any retention whatsoever. Lightly smoked roasty aromas. Very subtle, though. Aroma is not powerful by any means.

Immediate flavor is a one-dimensional sugary taste. Feels like licking sugar-coated satin sheets. Almost eeriely smooth. Candy-like.

With an even stranger twist, the sweetness is almost entirely mopped up in a bizarre re-emergence of the light roasted presence from the aroma. Hinting at flavor more than engaging the tongue. Then again, perhaps that's just the case in comparison to the initial wave of sugary flavor.

Perfectly constructed mouthfeel for a schwarzbier. Smooth, silky, and light -- despite the visual indications to the contrary.

Pretty damn drinkable if you can get past the intense genesis of the taste "experience."

Photo of AlexAfonin
3/5  rDev +13.2%

Photo of DamageCase76
2/5  rDev -24.5%

Photo of atis
1.65/5  rDev -37.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

500 ml bottle from Germany

Pours black with a bit fizzy darkish head that is gone quite soon, full of small carbonation bubbles, almost no lacing. Aroma is weak sweet burnt.

I read in some reviews before that the beer was sweet - but nothing could have prepared me for this amount of sugar, I was not able to taste anything except than burnt sugar with sweet roasted aftertaste. Mouthfeel is light with average carbonation.

I am very dissapointed and could not drink more than a few sips. What is interesting, my wife, who is very much into sour beers found this one to be very nice and drinkable.

Photo of nomad
2.63/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Ha ha ha ha - ah, this beer makes me laugh. See, I knew what I was getting myself into before I drank it, unlike some of the sorry souls who didn't. Yeah, its sweet - so what? Its fun how it completely turned the table on typical beer drinking - instead of roasty flavors with maybe a sweet lilt through out, this is sweet flavors with a small roasty tinge from front to end.

Jet black with no head retention, it tastes and smells like unfermented wort. If you've never brewed beer, well, this is what unfermented wort tastes like. A small coffee-like accent peaks around the immense sugar, probably from de-bittered chocolate malt (hence the extreme dark color but little dark flavor).

Its a bit much, but does go really well with spicy, roasty, and otherwise strongly-powered and palette-drying food. A bit bracing even if you're expecting it, but fun nonetheless.

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Schwarzer Abt from Klosterbrauerei Neuzelle GmbH
67 out of 100 based on 43 ratings.