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Framboise For A Cure - Russian River Brewing Company

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Reviews: 146
Hads: 918
Avg: 4.32
pDev: 9.26%
Wants: 1,059
Gots: 186 | FT: 13
Brewed by:
Russian River Brewing Company visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Fall

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Arbitrator on 10-07-2010

Blonde Ale aged in Chardonnay barrels with brett, lacto, and pedio (base beer is Temptation). This sour barrel-aged blonde ale has 31 pounds per barrel of fresh raspberries to make a beautiful reddish/pink beer! Nicely balanced with sweet raspberry and tartness. This beer is made only once a year in conjunction with our month-long fundraiser for the Sutter Breast Care Services of Santa Rosa during Breast Cancer Awareness Month! 100% of the proceeds of this beer will be used to help men and women in our community in their fight against breast cancer!

Batch 1 (2010) - Sonambic base, 5.9%
Batch 2 (2011) - Temptation base, 6.5%
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Reviews: 146 | Hads: 918
Photo of AleWatcher
4.18/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This 2011 framboise for a cure came courtesy of Beerdy. I cracked this and shared it with kzoobrew... Served in plastic cups while sitting in my car in the Bell's parking lot...
Stay classy baby.

Beautiful color.   Pinkish red color. Very clear.  Rosy pinkish white head is shiny and fizzy. 
Smells of fresh raspberries and a nice bretty musty funk. 
The flavor is lightly sweet with fruity raspberries and even something that reminds me of sour cherries...  Nice bretty funkiness.   Great sour bite with tart raspberry flavor to boot. 

Medium feel, plenty of carbonation. 

Overall--  very tasty. I'm happy to try this beer...  I imagine it would have been better had it been a Beatification base, but this works pretty well. 


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Photo of Sammy
4.17/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

thanks for sharing this 375 ml., Tom. well, very pink bodied for starters. A great aroma of fruit dessert. The taste came off quite well, with sourness and fruitiness. I could have easily have finished it myself if someone had not kept grabbing the bottle. Certainly worthy of RR. Good mouthfeel for a sour.

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Photo of starrdogg
4.25/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to Jon for sharing this. Batch 2.

Beer pours an awesome-looking brilliant ruby red with very little head. Smell is equally excellent, great mix of raspberries and the typical Russian River sour/oak aroma. Flavor has a little bit of funk up front before the raspberries take over, then it finishes a bit tart and acidic. It's medium-bodied and a little dry in the finish. Overall, this is a really nice raspberry sour, one of the best I've had - my past experiences with raspberries haven't been super positive and this one definitely stands out above the pack.

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Photo of Dreadnaught33
4.3/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This is batch 2 that I am reviewing.

The color is very striking. It is a brilliant rosy red to pink color, very brilliant indeed. No head and just a little lacing, but really it still looks beautiful.

The smell is great. A very dry wild yeast with some nice fresh raspberries clearly coming through with some great oak notes to boot. Did I mention there is a lot of raspberry in the nose? This smells like I would imagine a raspberry tart mixed up in the blender with some wild yeast to smell like.

The taste is quite nice too, with plenty of raspberry and pie crust in the taste, with a nice level of sourness but not as tart as i thought it would be but it is funky. A little vinegary in the taste, but it is quite pleasant and clean. Some nice oak too. Very fruit forward.

The feel is classic Russian river, very clean yet funky and very nice over the palate.

Overall quite a nice beer, definitely worthy of some trades.

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Photo of julian
4.85/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

A: Bright passion red color - absolutely stunning! Minimal head that fades quickly to nothing. Yup, no trace of head anywhere. Looks gorgeous but would have liked to see SOME pinkish hued foam at least coating the surface, and maybe some lacing. Can't really complain though, this shit is amazing - read on.

S: Smells like a Cantillon at first - barrel must, brett, funk, barnyard, and just generally awesome sourness mixed with a healthy heaping of tart raspberries that tickle the nose with a sweet playful fruitiness. As it warms you get more wood/barrel/oak and must and a bit of solventy alcohol. Swirl it around and BAM more raspberries!

T: Mild tartness, raspberry flavor definitely noticeable and vaguely sweet attempting to balance out the tartness (very nice!), light funk and barrel must. Very nice brett and fruit character and combination.

M: Dry, crisp, medium-high carbonation.

O: This is pretty much everything I was hoping FfaC would be, and more. I think this is now my favorite RR beer and quite possibly a very close 2nd to Rose de Gambrinus. Very pleased with this. Very good beer and one well worth the price of admission. If you haven't tried this and like sours and/or fruit beers and like supporting good causes, GET THIS BEER! I could seriously put a dent into a keg of this...if not finish it off within an almost medically unsound timeframe.

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Photo of kingcrowing
4.36/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

375ml corked and caged bottle poured into a snifter, batch 2.

Pours a crazy pink color with a small white/pink head. Nose is very fruity with raspberry and tart lime.

This is a sour bomb, it's mouth puckeringly delicious, fresh raspberries dominate and the mouthfeel is light with a lot of carbonation. Finish is very dry and sharp.

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Photo of schwaeh
4.37/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

375ml bottle shared between Ryan011235 and myself. Batch 2.

A: Pours out a really deep, dark pinkish raspberry color. It's really vibrant and rich. I had to pour slowly to get the pink head to stay down in the glass. High carbonation.

S: Huge raspberry smacks the sinuses; They're nicely sweet, fresh, and tart. I appreciate how much the quality of the fruit comes through. Lambic comes through in waves, heavily lactic, nicely funky with wet hay and soggy wood. I couldn't think of a better showcase of the fruit.

T: The flavor is as densely packed as the color promised. Again, it's very fresh and bright. It has a natural sugar sweetness. Wild yeast adds hay, horsey musk, and a approachable tartness. It's only really tart on the swallow. I get a bit of vinegar on the finish along with dry must. There are lots of complexities in this beer if you look for them.

M: Light-medium body, crisp and zesty. This stuff is dry but the raz coats well.

O: I never thought I would get to try this stuff. I'd say this is the best American framboise I've had to date, RR really kills some sours. The Temptation base is awesome as always and the fruit is as fresh as a daisy.

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Photo of Chriscrundwell12
4.55/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

375 ml bottle corked and caged poured into a Darkness snifter, sharred with a fellow BA.

Batch 2

A- Wow incredibly pinkish purplish red, really attractive color, no head at all, some bubbles coming off the bottom, splotchy lacing, thin layer on top.
S- Wow big barnyard aroma, sour, funk, cob webs, fresh raspberries, really looking forward to trying this bad boy.
T- Really enjoyable, nice funkiness, barnyard, love the fresh raspberries, vinegar, sour apple, oak, really complex.
M- Medium mouth feel, decent carbonation, dry finish, nice puckering taste.
O- Really impressed with this beer, I had high hopes and was not let down, love the sour tartness that comes out, I also love fresh raspberries, which came out upfront in this beer, extremely grateful to have traded for this gem, and would love another opportunity to try it with some age.

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Photo of KevSal
4.2/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch #2, temptation (a slightly smaller temptation tho as temptation is 7.25%) base aged with raspberries, created to support breast cancer in October which my lady an I are big supporters for. Given to me by nickd for bringing back his Ec bottles from fifty fifty, wouldn't take no for an answer, thanks nick!

The two bottles I was able to get went straight to my regular trading partners who always hook me up with fantastic brews, so I'm finally going to be able to try this guy! Decided to crack it sooner to enjoy the raspberries.

C & c 375ml poured into two snifters

A- looks fantastic. Resembles very closely to the base beer but with a smaller head. It's also a nice ruby hue and the head is a quarter inch of pink bubbles

S- raspberries come through real nice with some sourness in the background, so far so good. Smells exactly like what it is, temptation with raspberries. Also reminds me a bit of new glarus Belgian red with a bit more sourness.

T-sourness in the forefront and tons of raspberries all throughout the taste. Very well balanced flavor, the fruitiness really comes through well, not too strong and not too little.

M- this one covers the tongue nicely, very well carbonated. the alcohol level (6.5%) is my sweet spot for sours. Lovin this one

O- fantastic beer! My ladies 2 glasses disappeared very quickly. I wish I had a second bottle to age as I feel it can still use a bit of sourness. This should really come in a 750 as i can be drinking this all night long, a 350 is just not enough. Looking forward to next years batch. Hoping they use concecration as the base, I bet that would be outta this world.

Really wish they put the back label on this guy to show what they feel the aging should be like and how exactly this one was made. The $20 price tag is also a bit steep for the beer your getting but it is for a good cause.

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Photo of Bitterbill
4.92/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

I couldn't get a bottle in a trade so I went the Ebay route.

It pours a distinctive pink colour with a 1 finger head of pinkish foam. The lacing is outstanding.

The smell, well, if you want the aroma of the freshest raspberries that combines sweet and tart notes, this is it. Before I go any further, let me say I have a definite bias towards beers brewed with raspberries *if* they are done right.

First sip in and a bit of sweetness starts things off followed by a huge blast of raspberry tartness. Wow, just wow! The barrel aging here isn't very obvious but a tarty fruit like raspberries can mask it and truth be told, I don't miss it at all. The beer as is, is knocking my socks of with its deliciousness.

Fairly light bodied with a perfect level of carbonation, the mouthfeel is fitting and superb for the style.

I gotta say, it's going to be tough for any new beer I try in 2012 to top this one!

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Photo of illidurit
4.59/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared at the December iteration of the Santa Cruz tasting series. Pours a vivid magenta color without much of a head. Absurd raspberry aroma, fruitier and more tart than even NG Raspberry Tart. Really the most realistic, eye-popping recreation of fruit in a beer that I’ve ever smelled. Great balance in the flavor between sourness and fruit. Divine.

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Photo of beerwolf77
4.45/5  rDev +3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle graciously shared by wisconsinality and KHM.

Dark purple raspberry hue. Pink head. Smells of full on fresh raspberry puree. Touch of tart funk with a good amount of barrel wood. Flavors are pretty much raspberry city. The tartness is mild until the finish. Medium body with mild carbonation. A true delight to drink for sure. Very glad I got a chance to try it.

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Photo of DefenCorps
4.2/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Review #1600. Thank you, Chris. I shared this with the guys last night, batch 2

A beautiful raspberry pink color with a dense, white head that falls off rapidly, this beer is crystal clear and gorgeous. The nose is fantastic with beautiful raspberry character, mild funk and a mild grape/white wine character, which is from the Temptation base. There's just a touch of lemon as well. The palate opens with a clean lactic sourness with raspberries. The raspberry character is excellent, capturing the essence of the fruit without all the harsh tannins that many raspberry beers end up with. Just a touch of lemon is present on the finish. To me, though, the thing that stands out is the mouthfeel. Expertly conditioned with soft creamy carbonation that works brilliantly with the medium-light body. No real oak character is present, and the vinous character is very nice as well. Excellent stuff.

**Edit 27 July 2012**
Served alongside Hommage and the 99 Framboos, this was punching above its weight, but ultimately came up short. Batch 2

An unbelievably bright raspberry character, super fruity without being jammy, along with the Temptation base being noticeable in a mildly vinous base sour. Mildly seedy, mildly chalky and mildly lemony. The palate opens fairly simple with white wine, raspberries, lightly lemony sour base beer. Not much funk here. Raspberry character is brilliantly expressed. Medium light in body and moderately carbonated, the raspberries linger on into the finish. Very nice.

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Photo of Huhzubendah
4.45/5  rDev +3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared by drabmuh. Thanks Matt.

Save the tatas!

2011 vintage

The beer is a dark ruby hue, unsurprisingly resembling raspberry juice. The head is pinky and foamy, rapidly receding to zilch. The aroma brings some distinctive Russian River yeast with a bold serving of raspberries. Great flavor, with lots of fresh, slightly tart berries. Pretty straightforward. Not overly funky, sour, or tart, hut rather refreshing, chuggable, and delicious. Light on the palate with spritzy carbonation. Overall, I really enjoyed this. An excellent beer.

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Photo of yourefragile
4.33/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2011 375 mL bottle consumed with Mike at City Beer.

Pours a beautiful, dark clear crimson color with a dense light pink/rose head; nice retention. Complex aroma of tart raspberry, earth, funk and oak. Flavor is dominated by the raspberry, lactic and earthy must; not particularly sour or as interesting as Temptation, but not good nonetheless. Light, crisp, mild bite on the body. I like raspberries, so I liked this a lot, but fresh the depth of other RR sours is lacking from this batch.

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Photo of axeman9182
4.3/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

375 mL bottle thanks to nataku00. This one was poured into my Brooklyn Brwery tulip.

Framboise for a Cure pours a somewhat cloudy cherry red. There are plentiful gorgeous ruby highlights shining through, even when the beer's not backlit. About a finger of rose tinted foam briefly graces the top of the glass, before quickly fading away. The nose is nearly flawless. Raspberry is the first thing to jump out, and is the dominant aroma present. Earthy brett funk is right behind, playing a strong second. An acetic sour twang is also there, but very much in the background compared to the other two. My only minor quibble is that the whole thing could stand to be a bit more powerful. The first thing that stands out about the flavor is that it's much more tart than the nose would have suggested. A close second is that the raspberries have fallen way off from what I expected. If the aroma profile was 50/40/10 in terms of raspberry/funk/sour, I'd say the taste is at 20/30/50, with the berry flavor only creeping in on the back end. The body is fairly dry, and works nicely with the expansive, champagne-like carbonation. Framboise for a Cure is another world class wild brew from Russian River, though I'm surprised both at how just how wild it is and how muted the fruit is for a relatively young beer.

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Photo of wagenvolks
4.11/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

11.2oz bottle at City Beer Store in San Francisco, CA.

Flat out gorgeous pour, with a perky pinkish-copper body supporting a fleeting tuft of valentine's day foam. Clear appearance with a healthy carbonation level. Aroma is surprisingly muted, even as the beer warmed, with a hint of vinous berry pulp and sharp fruitiness. Nice balance of malt to complement the acidity.

Flavor largely matches the aroma, with a bit more of a punch from the raspberries, but still not as tart as I had anticipated from a Russian River sour. Biscuity malts in the background. Dryness is on-point for the style, and the carbonation level really suits the drinkability. Enjoyed every sip of the bottle without getting fatigued like other sours have the capability of doing. A nice Framboise in the end, but slightly underwhelming given the attention paid to this sour.

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Photo of Ryan011235
4.07/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into an E&J Cask & Cream glass on 12/4/11; split with schwaeh

Batch 2

Much appreciation to nickd717

Pours a pretty crimson color and settles much the same, but having a rust/browned twinge in lesser light. Ephemeral one finger rose-hued head crackles away quickly to a thin film and some collar retention. Swirling help for a spell, but there is nothing by the end.

Raspberry is prominent in the nose; while that's no surprise, it smells clean, fresh and only mid-range sweet. Raspberry puree would seem a spot-on descriptor. Moderate notes of wood and funk support the fruit aromas - nothing seems out of place or over crowded. More sugary as it warms. The raspberries keep the musty notes at bay, right where they belong.

Framboise For A Cure starts off tangy and punchy with flashes of juicy raspberry, peaking quickly and tapering off to a tart middle. Around said middle is where the barrel jumps to the fore, adding a vapid, dry and musty finish - this is the only part of which I'm not fond. As the beer warms, funk plays a more prominent role throughout. Dry and earthy, too.

Steve suggested I take a big old drink and hold it in my mouth; something about flavors folding over the tongue. Fair enough - this method finds funk intricacies of damp wood, dirt and cobwebs.

I was inclined to call this medium-ish, but over time I am inclined to deem it on the light side. It seems crisp early on, but after opening up it is far thinner; almost watery. Carbonation is moderate; it's enough to move the beer along and assist the flavor profile (think lower-range soda territory). Again, the only thing i don't like is the finish.

I think Framboise For A Cure is a well-applied use of raspberry and barrel, aside from the finish. In any case, I am quite happy to have tried it.

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Photo of tewaris
3.93/5  rDev -9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A beautiful and sparkling clear rose color with a light pink, creamy, fluffy head. Good retention and lacing too. Funky notes with raspberry at the back jump out of the glass, this is a true Framboise. Rather light on the fruit, the base beer is strong in this one. Strong funk, some soft fruity notes (from the tame yeast), and then the berries. I think it is more complex than the bottle of Temptation that I had, and not only because of raspberries.

The sourness from the wild yeast and the tartness from the raspberries are felt distinctly in the taste. While the palate is not super funky, the oak and leather linger in the aftertaste. Finish is quite dry, and the mouthfeel light and crisp.

The sharpness, although not abrasive, begins to dominate as the beer warms up. Overall I was very impressed by the aroma of this beer, but the taste/feel left something to be desired... it seemed a tad empty. Perhaps there's a lot of room for development?

4.5, 4, 3.5, 4, 4.5

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Photo of jcartamdg
4.42/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a bright pink color with no head into my ccb snifter. Aroma of raspberries, oak and funk. Taste follows the nose with raspberries up front then sour notes and funk, then oak while finishing back with the raspberries. Tart but not crazy which makes this highly drinkable. Overall this is my favorite framboise to date!

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Photo of nhindian
4.58/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

375ml bottle graciously provided by russwbeck, split and poured into a Russian River '-tion' glass.

A - A vibrant, electrifying pink beer fills the glass, unlike anything I've had before. It's unique and almost intimidating in how special it appears. Only about a finger of light tan head grows, with somewhat low retention.

S - The aroma alone implies a very tart beer, full of fresh raspberries and sour funk. The barrel is prominent in terms of oak and vanilla, but still subtle enough to have the fruit dominate.

T - Straight away the flavor brings a strong, astringent funk, but the fruit and raspberry is just as potent, and doesn't have a malty or vinegar presence that detracts from the fruit. There is just a bit of barrel, but this doesn't rely on that to provide the bulk of flavor, and the raspberry easily drives the flavor.

M - Mouthfeel is medium-bodied with high carbonation. Not heavy at all and the carbonation drives a zesty and active body that moves easily and swiftly across the palate.

D/O - Drinkability is high. During a night which we had a good amount of sours, this one stands alone as one of the highlights of the night. It doesn't rely on the oak barrel to provide the flavor even though it was present, and the tartness is just prominent enough to deliver the strong raspberry flavors but keep it balanced and enjoyable. One of the best Russian River beers I've had and one of the best sours I've had period.

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Photo of russwbeck
4.8/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A: This beer is so pink you should worry about it staining your white clothes and carpet. Hardly any head, but what is there is pink and laces well.

S: Raspberries, barnyard funkiness, and quite tart. A very typical sour smell, if not more sour than average.

T: Wow the taste follows what I'm getting on the smell. Very sour, but it is balanced by a ton of raspberries. The fruit is on a different level than other American Wilds that I have had. The balance between fruit and tartness is just unmatched in flavor. This very much so lives up to the hype.

MF: Tart and acidic, the mouth on this is carbonated well and has a medium to light body. No hint of alcohol at all.

O: Best sour of the night, including the Goose Island 3 Sisters and Bruery Oude Tart. One of the best American Wilds I have ever had the privilege of tasting.

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Photo of Beerandraiderfan
4.88/5  rDev +13%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Did not expect to roll into the liquor store (Ledgers) and find bottles of this! And then Toronado, and then City Beer store!

Beautiful and vibrant pink color, just like Rose de Gambrinus, but even cleaner and plenty carbonated to perfection! Yummy raspberry and sour aromas, just a great tartness and fruit so present. Stays away from horse blanket funk type of descriptions, this is clean, berryful and sour.

Taste, jeez, this just doesn't let up! Incredibly flavorful, rich raspberries, seemingly picked at the height of sweet and tenderness. Somehow neither the immense fruitness or sourness envelope each other. Russian River really outdid themselves on this one.

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Photo of portia99
4.09/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

375ml bottle (Batch 2 - 2011 vintage) received in a recent trade with avaldivia (Thanks!) poured into a Russian River stemmed "TION" glass.

A - Bottle opens with a mild pop. Pours a glowing body of hot pinkish tinted ruby red...almost artificially pink. There is a faint haze throughout and only a instantaneous occurance of a weak fizzy, soda-like head that leaves no lacing behind but is able to muster a constant stream of bubbles that keeps the surface active and alive.

S - Raspberries are a key component and up front in the aroma, but they do not dominate the way other examples of the style do. There is a strong wine component in here too (I imagine from the Temptation base beer), some noticable funk/barnyard aromas, earth, wet hay, lactic sourness. Actually refreshing to have a more balanced aroma profile than just straight raspberries (as good as that smells).

T - Glad to say the flavor follows the aroma nicely. Again, lots of complexity and balance with the "wild" aspects of the beer holding up quite well against the assault of fresh raspberries. Assertive lactic sourness gives the first impression and is followed by some white wine, grassy/hay flavors, funky barnyard, a bit of woody oak and backed by a kiss of raspberries. Finishes very dry and tart.

M - A bit on the thin side of medium but filled with a crisp and tingly assertive carbonation. Quite tart and lactic-ly sour with some mild funk and fruit. Very, very dry.

O - Very good framboise. As much as I enjoy the sweeter and fruitier framboises out there (NG Raspberry Tart, Blushing Monk, etc), I have to say this was just about as enjoyable, but in a different way. Refreshing tartness with fresh raspberries mixed in and still retaining the wild characteristics...interesting and having some added complexity. No letdown here at all - glad to have gotten the opportunity to try this one.

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Photo of hooliganlife
4.38/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

thanks to abecall98

2011 vintage

pours a bright murky pink and magenta. pinkish head piles high and slowly dissipates.

mainly raspberry and oak on the nose

lots of dry raspberry with a hint of old musty oak. slight lemon with a great sour kick. lip puckering up front.

very moderate carbonation, nice body, dry finish

very drinkable and one of the best american framboise i have had. never overpowering and well integrated through out. no sign that temptation is the base for this.

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Framboise For A Cure from Russian River Brewing Company
95 out of 100 based on 146 ratings.