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Altenmünster Winterbier Dopplebock - Allgäuer Brauhaus AG

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114 Ratings
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Ratings: 114
Reviews: 89
rAvg: 3.59
pDev: 13.93%
Wants: 2
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Germany

Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.20% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: Todd on 11-21-2007)
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Photo of BuckeyeNation
2.58/5  rDev -28.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Ruddy brown with bright orange accents. The sand colored crown fills almost half the glass after a vigorous pour and has a tight-bubbled creaminess that predicts persistence. Broken sheets of thick lace keep things on the attractive side. This is a classic looking doppelbock.

The nose is much less impressive. What I can appreciate is cocoa powdery, faintly nutty and disconcertingly metallic. Where's the dark malt, the dark fruit, the... anything at all that would make me want to tip up the glass? Could Winterbier Doppelbock possibly taste as lackluster as it smells?

Thankfully, it does not, but it certainly isn't anything worth celebrating. This beer clearly isn't in the same league as Allgauer Cambonator Doppelbock, a fine lager that I enjoyed several years ago. I didn't expect something that good, but I did hope for something better than this.

For starters, there isn't anywhere near enough barley. The ill-fitting flavors include poor quality baking chocolate, a substandard attempt at artificial raisin extract, used tea leaves and old cigarette ashes. It hasn't taken me long to decide that the flavor is at least as bad as the nose, if not worse. Novices should steer clear because this is definitely *not* what a doppelbock should taste like.

The mouthfeel is way too thin for the style. Not only that, but what bubbles are present do a poor job of volumizing the beer. The less said here the better.

Altenmunster Winterbier Doppelbock has an odd flavor and is anything but representative of the style. If you see them both on the shelves, grab the Cambonator Doppelbock and thank me later. Can I get my $3.99 back please?

BuckeyeNation, Feb 05, 2008
Photo of BEERchitect
3.6/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Didn't realize this was a Dopple at the time of purchase. I always felt that Dopplebock releases should be more wintry than spring. One of my favorite styles, so I'm happy to oblige. The beer pours the typical mohogany hue with a terse head formation, but nice retention with timid lacing. Aromas of deep, rich malts with fruitcake breadiness and esters, nuttiness, cocoa, and added spiciness. Soft, yet complex aromas. Flavors are very toasty and cocoa-like, hiding much of the complex breadiness and fruitiness of the nose. Herbal hops and molassas flavors round out the finish. Thinly textured for a Dopple, but makes the beer somewhat easily drinkable. I prefer a more chewy textrue that just wasn't there. A bitter, spicy aftertase rises late, providing a mild distraction. A nice beer, but there are better Dopplebocks out there-- Andescher and Salvator.

BEERchitect, Jun 01, 2008
Photo of largadeer
4/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2 liter bottle into a 1 liter stein. This bottle seemed too large until I found the right vessel, then it was merely 2 glasses of beer.

Looks dark with some light. Smells of malt and plight. Roast and coffee on the tongue, hints of kitten fur, vinous fruit and plum. Bitterness and tannins are in the cue, yet this is a smooth, quaffable brew. The body is medium-full; hell the kitten character is not but a purr. Two liters of this stuff is not enough to keep me playing the devil's scale dawn through dusk.

largadeer, Nov 23, 2010
Photo of emerge077
4.05/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Label reads 07 L264 M3...maybe the 264th day of 2007 (August?), who knows.

Pours from the .5L a dark brown, but is a dark transparent crimson in the light. Two fingers of light tan foam rise and fall, maintaining a healthy skim.

Bready aroma with banana esters, underlying licorice, and a tiny bit of mysterious spice.

Lightly sweet, bready and malty, fairly full-bodied with a good hop bitterness towards the end into the finish. Lingering tobacco leaf, wood, and dark chocolate. A minor note of grain is there in the back, but it's not unpleasant.

Carbonation is balanced, although it seems to lose a little after a few swirls. Light stickiness on the lips, but not too sweet by any means. Robust and full, a perfect winter choice for a snowy night.

emerge077, Jan 15, 2008
Photo of WVbeergeek
3.3/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Dark ruby caramel brown with a large beige khaki head, thick and cloud like forms intricate scattered lacing. Aroma has deep plum mild chocolate edge with herbal hops. A deep dark malt base with a mild mineral water edge, a bit of booziness is evident. Flavor is full of plum and wet tobacco leaves, herbal hops with a metallic mineral water edge to it. Mild bitterness weighs heavy with malt sweetness and dark fruits. Mouthfeel is medium bodied a bit soaked with deep fruits and residual sugars in the finihs, carbonation is moderate easy going. Drinkability is decent not something world class a bit sticky with malts making it a bit tough especially as it warms. One of my first Christmas seasonals this year, keep em coming.

WVbeergeek, Nov 21, 2009
Photo of jlindros
3.75/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to rudzud for sharing this monster 3L bottle!

Light fizzy head, crystal clear ruby mahogany red.

Nose like a cheaper doppelbock, cheaper for a true german that is, light fruity esters, wheat, molasses, hint of sweetness that comes like booze and cola, hint if raisin.

Taste starts with lots more dark wheat, caramel, molasses, esters with more fruity flavors, light banana, raisin, clove, biscuit, bit of booze that gets a bit warming, spicy chewy hops, light creamy. Hint of metallic twing but barely. Finish is dry but still sweet, more biscuit, wheat, plenty more raisin and light bananas foster, bitter spicy hops.

Mouth is med to a bit heavier bodied, light syrupy, decent carb, some warming booze.

Overall not bad, a bit cheap but cheap for a true german doppelbock, nice malts and wheats, fruits, bit boozy too.

jlindros, May 10, 2012
Photo of smcolw
3.93/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Beautiful head that recedes so slowly that it forms foamy rocks and lots of thick lace on the glass. The color is dark, dark brown where very little light gets through

Good chocolate ice cream aroma--obviously malty, carmelized raisins, flowery.

Rich, almost like chicken soup broth, and very low carbonation. Sweet from malt sugars; this has some lactose milkiness to it as well. The finish has just enough hop to provide interest.

In the world of bocks, this could be a new favorite of mine. It is very easy to drink and provides enough complexity to keep it interesting.

smcolw, Jun 15, 2008
Photo of Halcyondays
2.42/5  rDev -32.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

16.9 oz. German bottle,

A: Pours a dark brown, almost black, with a fizzy off-white head, with poor retention and no lacing.

S: Cola, actually smells a lot like a Pepsi, with some chocolate malt added.

T: Not good, way to bitter, odd sugar character, with cola.

M: Don't really have a problem, could use some more heft though.

D: Not a good dopple when comparing it to Salvator, Korbinian, and Celebrator, won't buy again.

Halcyondays, Feb 21, 2008
Photo of imperialking
4/5  rDev +11.4%

imperialking, Nov 15, 2011
Photo of Billolick
3.9/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

64 ounce swing top bottle (gonna be a refillable growler in its next life) $14.99 from DeCicco's in Ardsley, NY. Pours darker amber, clear, with a medium khaki head, moderate volume,frothy with nice retention shown and then a fine and minor film. Respectable bits of slippery lacing and light sheeting left on the glass. Malty, dark bread nose. Tasty, malty brew. Lots more bready notes, dark caramel, vanilla, toffee, light mocha latte light smoke and milk chocolate notes wafting around in the rear and adding to the complexity. Quite dry and snappy in the finish. Quite an enjoyable fall/winter time sipper. Reading some other reviewers with less favorable impressions, perhaps I got a fresher sample, cuz this one tasted pretty darn good.

Billolick, Oct 30, 2009
Photo of DoubleJ
3.13/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

It's time for the fourth of six beers here in the Second Unorganized Invitational, and this one is actually a winter release. Half-liter bottle with a flip-top, on to the beer:

Dark brown in color with a big creamy head that refuses to go down. It's a beauty to look at as it rests in my Stella Artois chalice. The nose is okay, dark bread, light raisins, and a touch-up of soaked grain. When the beer touches the tongue, dissapointment settles in. The apearance of the beer is nice, but the taste is mediocre. Raisins and alcohol compete for supremecy here. Burnt toast flavors make their way on too with some astringency. The overall flavor is too light for the doppelbock-like 7.2% ABV. Well, at least the latter pleasantly warms the stomach.

This one ended up being a let-down, but there are still two more beers left in the Second Unorganized Invite, which will conclude with a double feature tomorrow.

DoubleJ, May 21, 2008
Photo of Zorro
2.83/5  rDev -21.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A find at the BevMo.

This is a clear coke a cola colored beer with a thin tan to light brown colored head.

Smell is very light, just a little bit of malt and a little banana and very faint bubblegum.

Little bit sweet and fruity at the start and it is mostly apple. Astringent bitter aftertaste. Again I keep tasting apple flavor in this. Not much else here the hops only seem to show up in the aftertaste.

Mouthfeel is OK.

Not to over use a word but everything seems little about this beer. Drinkability is below average. This doesn't really taste like Bock Beer. At best it is better than Budweiser I guess but I really have no reason to taste another one of these.

Zorro, Mar 02, 2008
Photo of jdhilt
3.88/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a five+ finger almost tan head that fades quickly and leaves some lace. Deep mahogany almost black color. Light-medium carbonation and medium-heavy bodied. Malty nose. Flavor is sweet fruity with slight fruity/chocolate finish. $4.70 for a 500ml flip-top bottle from Colonial Spirits Acton, Ma.

jdhilt, May 27, 2008
Photo of BillRoth
3.5/5  rDev -2.5%

BillRoth, Dec 07, 2013
Photo of scruffwhor
4.13/5  rDev +15%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours a deep Pours a depp brown, thick ruby color. Only a small head right after the pour, then quickly recedes to nothingness. The smell is a a mild, sweet roasted malt with small hints of dark fruits. The taste is a bit more tantilizingly sweet, roasted, and fruity. Starts with sweet roasted malts, then slowy moves to dark fruits, prunes, figs, and very light maraschino syrup. The palte is very smooth, a little sugary, and deeply malty. Great, drinkable beer for 7.2%.

scruffwhor, Feb 07, 2008
Photo of BeerFMAndy
4.45/5  rDev +24%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

500 ml bottle split and poured into a La Chouffe tulip. 7.2% ABV, at least 1.5 years old as it was aged by my friend; thanks for this one Bryan!

A - A slow pour creates nothing more than a thin foam of tan bubbles with low retention. It's incredibly dark mahogany brown, almost black, but totally clear.

S - Rich roasted malts are super potent and strong, mainly comprised of caramel, crystal, and chocolate. Robust and filling just in the aroma, this dopple is strong. No hops present at all.

T - Rich and creamy caramel malt, toasted to perfection, blends with sweet chocolate and crystal malts to provide a sweet but even taste. Again, no hops come through.

M - Clean and smooth with a silky texture and robust, filling body. It goes down nicely and finishes sweet and malts with a minuscule touch of alcohol.

D - Very drinkable and smooth with a small warming quality to the finish. Even with it being mid summer, it's still a drinkable beer. A great dopplebock!

BeerFMAndy, Aug 13, 2010
Photo of Hopheadjeffery
3.5/5  rDev -2.5%

Hopheadjeffery, Aug 03, 2013
Photo of barnzy78
3.5/5  rDev -2.5%

barnzy78, Nov 20, 2011
Photo of RoyalT
3.43/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - This is a very dark brown in color with little head.

Smell - The aroma consists of some heavily-toasted malts, a light yeast smell, and lots of raw sugar.

Taste - The taste is much bigger than the smell. The darkish malt and big sugars explode on the taste buds. The sweetness lingers too and picks up a lightened fruity character at the finish.

Mouthfeel - This is in between light and medium-bodied with a bitter flavor but not a real bitter texture.

Drinkability - This is nowhere near as good as their Cambonator Doppelbock but it is passable.

Update - I originally reviewed this with an 07 vintage so thought I would take a second look with the 08 (drank in Mar 2009). I have to say it is exactly as my first review reflected. The nose is very soft even when warmed, the taste is big with a lingering sweetness, and I really didn't care much for the texture or appearance.

RoyalT, Dec 21, 2007
Photo of Durge
3.68/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Dark coffee color brew with a thin white head and fair lace. It has a balanced wheat-malt blend in the aroma. The taste is close to the aroma with a honey, butterscoth feel. A medium bodied at best but very drinkable. A flavorful beer that isn't as much of a mouthful as most doppelbocks. Pretty decent though.

Durge, May 03, 2008
Photo of Brenden
3.39/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

It's on the lighter end of the color scale for a Doppelbock, sort of a deep, clear amber-copper. The head is fluffier and less dense than I might expect, but sizeable enough and with good enough retention that it doesn't look bad. It's able to drop some spotty lacing in moderation on the glass.
The aroma is malty and breay with some good sweetness and a touch of molasses to it. It might not be as big or robust as the best out there, but I think it's pretty standard for the style as it used to be or as it's still brewed classically in Germany. A bit of cocoa and a gentle bite actually make for a fair complexity. I'd liken it to a cookie that's not too sugary and is baked with ginger and molasses.
The flavor's not as complex, and it gets a little too light for my liking. There's only a hint of either the molasses or anise/black licorice notes typical to a doppel, breads are less pronounced, and some of the strength of the nose is lost. It is a little spicier and has just a ghost of something like floral hops bitterness.
The mouthfeel is where I'm really at a loss. Who took a robust style like this and decided it would be better to take out some of the depth and body, to thin in out, and thought it would be better? I'm not sure I can get into a light-bodied doppel, to be honest. Maybe it's not that bad. It picks up a bit as it goes. Still, let's give this one some more heft.

Brenden, Apr 28, 2013
Photo of illidurit
2.98/5  rDev -17%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cool swingtop 500 mL bottle poured into a Celebrator glass. Medium brown color with orangey highlights. Beige head settles to a thin film in about a minute, leaving little lacing. Brown malt aroma with a big dose of metallic character. Smells like it was aged in a barrel made of coins. Some perfume and nuts as well. Thankfully the flavor has none of the metal, but it doesn't have a lot of anything really. Bready brown malt with a little cocoa sweetness and a hint of roast. Not bad, just not full enough. Body is just under medium in heft, carbonation is good.

illidurit, Nov 26, 2008
Photo of popery
4.1/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

It's a good doppelbock with an interesting blend of spices, hops and malt. The malt is strong and thick, nice and proper for a doppelbock. There's a little bit too much alcohol flavor. It's not bad, but it could be a bit more warming and less vodka. The nose is pretty good. There are some earthy metallic hops. The flavors are honey, chocolate, spicy, caramel and earthy hops. The feel is pretty good, but it's not exceptional, like some of the top doppelbocks. On the other hand, it's very drinkable. I blended it with Tetley's English Ale and that turned out very well, like an interestingly creamy bock.

popery, Jan 25, 2009
Photo of rudzud
3.75/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Shared this massive 3L bottle amongst JLindros and BPK59. Poured into a duvel tulip. Reviewed from notes.

A - Pours a clear burnt malty hazel appearance with a nice two finger off white heads that fades to leave a light thin blanket.

S - Aromas of burnt sugars, caramel, and malts.

T - More of those burnt caramel and soft malts. Slightly metallic. Really not too shabby.

M - Mouthfeel is slightly under carbonated and a bit thin.

O - Overall this was a solid dopplebock. I believe I paid under $20 for this 3L so for the price it was definately worth it.

rudzud, Jun 19, 2012
Photo of morimech
3.98/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a dark reddish brown with a large off-white head that had good retention. The head eventually settles to a thick cap. Heavy lacing is left on the glass surface. The aroma consists of dark fruit with some graininess unfortunately covering up the malt. The flavor starts sweet with the taste of plums and dates and finishes slightly bitter. Not cloying at all. Alcohol is not detected. The body is medium with low carbonation. Nice creamy texture compliments this beer nicely. A good doppelbock but not one of the greats in the style. Nice winter beer to have on a cold night.

morimech, Dec 12, 2008
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Altenmünster Winterbier Dopplebock from Allgäuer Brauhaus AG
82 out of 100 based on 114 ratings.