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Altenmünster Winterbier Dopplebock - Allgäuer Brauhaus AG

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Reviews: 89
Hads: 121
rAvg: 3.58
pDev: 11.45%
Wants: 2
Gots: 5 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Doppelbock |  7.20% ABV

Availability: Winter

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Beer added by: Todd on 11-21-2007

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Photo of WVbeergeek
3.35/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Dark ruby caramel brown with a large beige khaki head, thick and cloud like forms intricate scattered lacing. Aroma has deep plum mild chocolate edge with herbal hops. A deep dark malt base with a mild mineral water edge, a bit of booziness is evident. Flavor is full of plum and wet tobacco leaves, herbal hops with a metallic mineral water edge to it. Mild bitterness weighs heavy with malt sweetness and dark fruits. Mouthfeel is medium bodied a bit soaked with deep fruits and residual sugars in the finihs, carbonation is moderate easy going. Drinkability is decent not something world class a bit sticky with malts making it a bit tough especially as it warms. One of my first Christmas seasonals this year, keep em coming. (729 characters)

Photo of Brenden
3.41/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

It's on the lighter end of the color scale for a Doppelbock, sort of a deep, clear amber-copper. The head is fluffier and less dense than I might expect, but sizeable enough and with good enough retention that it doesn't look bad. It's able to drop some spotty lacing in moderation on the glass.
The aroma is malty and breay with some good sweetness and a touch of molasses to it. It might not be as big or robust as the best out there, but I think it's pretty standard for the style as it used to be or as it's still brewed classically in Germany. A bit of cocoa and a gentle bite actually make for a fair complexity. I'd liken it to a cookie that's not too sugary and is baked with ginger and molasses.
The flavor's not as complex, and it gets a little too light for my liking. There's only a hint of either the molasses or anise/black licorice notes typical to a doppel, breads are less pronounced, and some of the strength of the nose is lost. It is a little spicier and has just a ghost of something like floral hops bitterness.
The mouthfeel is where I'm really at a loss. Who took a robust style like this and decided it would be better to take out some of the depth and body, to thin in out, and thought it would be better? I'm not sure I can get into a light-bodied doppel, to be honest. Maybe it's not that bad. It picks up a bit as it goes. Still, let's give this one some more heft. (1,394 characters)

Photo of samie85
3.41/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A-Pours a very dark molasses color with one finger of light tan head.

S-A bit of butterscotch and some nutty malt.

T-Big, huge, nutty and dark fruit malt notes with with a light, crisp bitterness.

M-Rich and full mouthfeel although medium bodied with low carbonation.

D-Pretty drinkable for a doppelbock, the richness usually gets to me but I'm not having that issue with this one. (385 characters)

Photo of RoyalT
3.42/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - This is a very dark brown in color with little head.

Smell - The aroma consists of some heavily-toasted malts, a light yeast smell, and lots of raw sugar.

Taste - The taste is much bigger than the smell. The darkish malt and big sugars explode on the taste buds. The sweetness lingers too and picks up a lightened fruity character at the finish.

Mouthfeel - This is in between light and medium-bodied with a bitter flavor but not a real bitter texture.

Drinkability - This is nowhere near as good as their Cambonator Doppelbock but it is passable.

Update - I originally reviewed this with an 07 vintage so thought I would take a second look with the 08 (drank in Mar 2009). I have to say it is exactly as my first review reflected. The nose is very soft even when warmed, the taste is big with a lingering sweetness, and I really didn't care much for the texture or appearance. (895 characters)

Photo of gonzo46and2
3.42/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a nearly opaque black with a bit of red if held up to light. Rocky head that doesn't last but doesn't fully diminish either.

Big malty aroma has bits of beef, flowery perfume, dark fruit and caramel.

Taste is malty but light and well balanced

Mouthfeel is very creamy with a medium body.

Creamy and very nice. (323 characters)

Photo of MillySox
3.43/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A dark brown lager with an off white slightly tan head. Smells a little grainy and alcohol. Seemed a little low in gravity for a dopplebock. The taste was a little smoother than what the smell indicated. The grainy aroma did'nt really carryover into the flavor. Left a slight sweetness on the tongue and a little warmth in the throat from the high alcohol. The hops flavor was not overpowering but present. Seemed a little stronger than 7.2, and that's fine by me. (464 characters)

Photo of rkuhnel
3.43/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

From the swing top bottle this poured a nice rich amber-brown with a fat tan head and very rich lacing. Nose of fruits and roasted malts. Moderate mouthfeel. Flavors of malts and hops, with some sweetness. Slightly bitter finish. Quite drinkable and enjoyable. (260 characters)

Photo of sweethome
3.47/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Swingtop pint bottle.

Pour is very dark brown. Held to light it produces a beutiful crimson hue. Head is subdued and a bit odd. Fizzy head goes a away quickly, leaving a small tan head around the outside of the glass.

Nutty nose, deep dark fruits. A hint of smoke.

Entry is blast of rich and sweet malts. Just a quick smokey hint midmouth. Decent mouthfeel, but not fully developed. Carmel malt flavor dominates. A bit of nuttiness. Slight essence of allspice or cinnamon.

A bit sweet on the finish. Hop bittering arrives rather late on the palate, but can never quite provide the balance I desire here.

Very nice flavors, a mouthfeel that is bit lacking for style. Flavor assult that doesn;t quite mesh for me. (716 characters)

Photo of letsgopens
3.48/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This isn't your average Doppelbock but its still pleasurable in my opinion. It pours a matted, dark, woody brown with a near black appearance. Visible ruby highlights are present along with a nice grayish beige head that retains its frothiness for a reasonable amount of time before diminishing to an effervescent cap. A good amount of lacing remains as well as some small clinging bubbles on the inside of the glass.

The aroma is bright and buttery with a great deal of herbal notes. Some nice fruit character: darker fruit as well as apple and yeasty grain. A slightly phenolic/soda character is detectable also. Starchy with a decent amount of hops; reminiscent of the Saaz variety.

Buttery and crisp in flavor with some light caramel and molasses. Once again a good fruity component. More dark fruit, apple, cherry, and a distinct spiciness. Mild but pronounced hops and a slight vinous quality. Again there is a slightly metallic/phenolic note along with some noticeable booze.

A bit thin for a Doppelbock in my opinion with a primarily bright, crisp feel and a moderate grainy/buttery texture. Slightly starchy but with a slicker, juicier finish. Some warmth in the finish and moderate carbonation throughout. Tasty and palatable but a bit dim for me. Certainly quality though. (1,287 characters)

Photo of Embers
3.55/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

To be fair this is only my 2nd Doppelbock and am not sure yet whether it's really a style I enjoy a lot. Purchased a week ago in a pint bottle with no discernible brew or expiration date. Poured into a pint glass at approximately 50 degrees F. Initially it had a decent size head, creamy and kind of a caramel beige, it receded to a mere skim fairly quickly and there was little lacing of note. Not much carbonation but not flat either, the bubbles were medium sized and just kinda got to the top of the brew when they were darned good and ready. First sniff the aroma was quite strong, fairly sweet and dark. The taste was also sweet and dark at the same time. It did seem at times that the sweet and malt were fighting for dominance and my sense of taste was a bit confused by that. Definite chocolate overtones which were a nice complement to the sweet. Good mouth feel, full body. An ale to drink slowly as it seems to mellow and change a bit as you sip it over time. (971 characters)

Photo of MuenchenerKindl
3.56/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a .5 L swing top to a pint glass the liquid is very dark red and has good carbonation. The head is a tall 3 fingers light tan and leaves a nice lace.

The smell is ok, some over ripe fruit and dark bread.

The taste is better, dark bread not toasted, and raisins. More clean tasting then most of the style but could be more complex.

The mouthfeel is thicker then medium but thin for the style, the carbonation is good.

The drinkability is ok, worth a try.

Prosit, MK (481 characters)

Photo of peabody
3.56/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

pours out a really dark clear liquid with very little white suds.No lacing as of yet.
Smell is weak at best. Slight belgian yeast and faint raisin/grapeskin.
Taste is weak and dry. Not much caramel. A small amount of sugar and dark malt finishes off this one. It leaves the mouth dry.
Mouthfeel is clean enough and the dryness afterward is a pleasure concidering that this big bottle only cost 17 dollars. (406 characters)

Photo of pecokid
3.56/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle purchased at Calvert Wine and Spirits. Clean malty sweetness. Slightly above average alcohol taste. Dark reddish amber color. The carbonation gave it a spritziness that may be a bit high. Clean balanced mouthfeel. Enjoyable beverage. In the age of big beers, this one might be overlooked but it should not. I would buy this one again if I run accross it. (361 characters)

Photo of donteatpoop
3.58/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark brown, clear when held up to the light but otherwise too dark to be called opaque; a nice tan colored foam formed upon pouring and clung to the side of the glass as I drank it down.

Smells were toasted malt, grain, and raisins.

The taste is much the same as the scent; the fruity raisin-like impact on the palate coming in part way through but domminating the moment its presence is made known.

A solid beer, a bit thick in the mouth; easy to take down. (469 characters)

Photo of Gehrig
3.61/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

An unusual dopplebock in my estimation from Altenmunster. The appearance is tremendous, with two fingers of mocha colored froth topping a deep mahogany, ruby-tinged body--really great-looking beer. The rest is merely pretty decent, to me. The smell is unusual and not off-putting, but like the taste, a little thin for a dopplebock. It contains a decent amount of fruit, lots of malt, and some herbal spices, but more fruit would certainly be better. Same with the taste, which I find wanting. I like the good malty taste, the sweet-sour flavor, the plum-orange-lemony melange is good, but everything is too understated. This is dopplebock, not modest pilsner. It should be more arresting, though it's far from terrible.

Disappointingly, the beer goes a little flat towards the middle, which is a no-no. All in all a nice beer but an unexpected and somewhat below par dopplebock. (881 characters)

Photo of BEERchitect
3.62/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Didn't realize this was a Dopple at the time of purchase. I always felt that Dopplebock releases should be more wintry than spring. One of my favorite styles, so I'm happy to oblige. The beer pours the typical mohogany hue with a terse head formation, but nice retention with timid lacing. Aromas of deep, rich malts with fruitcake breadiness and esters, nuttiness, cocoa, and added spiciness. Soft, yet complex aromas. Flavors are very toasty and cocoa-like, hiding much of the complex breadiness and fruitiness of the nose. Herbal hops and molassas flavors round out the finish. Thinly textured for a Dopple, but makes the beer somewhat easily drinkable. I prefer a more chewy textrue that just wasn't there. A bitter, spicy aftertase rises late, providing a mild distraction. A nice beer, but there are better Dopplebocks out there-- Andescher and Salvator. (860 characters)

Photo of MisterClean
3.62/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

16.9 oz from BevMo

A - Dark brown-black, cappucino head, alpha clumps, lots of head, with no legs. Not sure this is a true doppelbock.

S - Lt coffee, lt malts, sugars, apricots, pear esters, and honey. Is this a doppelbock?

T - Is this a dubbel or a doppelbock? Plums, light taste of dark roasted coffee, sugar, and pear esters. This beer needs a new identity. Not really a doppelbock.

M - Lt carbo, lt bitterness. Nice offset of sweetness. Very syrupy, much like a Flemish-style finish. The mouthfeel would be perfect for a flem.

D - I could definitely drink another based on the taste and mouthfeel. I don't believe this is a doppelbock, but certainly tastes great as a dubbel or a flemish style beer. (708 characters)

Photo of Durge
3.63/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Dark coffee color brew with a thin white head and fair lace. It has a balanced wheat-malt blend in the aroma. The taste is close to the aroma with a honey, butterscoth feel. A medium bodied at best but very drinkable. A flavorful beer that isn't as much of a mouthful as most doppelbocks. Pretty decent though. (310 characters)

Photo of IntriqKen
3.65/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a deep, dark, tea colored brown-amber with a half finger of slightly off-white bubbles that melt rather quickly to a fine mist of white covering leaving no lace in their wake.

Aromas are mostly toasted to burnt malt with brown sugar and an underlying lager yeast smell.

Taste is sweetly burnt malt with dark brown sugar and caramel followed by a very faint citrus hops.

Aftertaste is brown sugar and alcohol warmth.
Mouthfeel a little thin for the style.

Overall, still a wonderful doppelbock for a winter's evening. (535 characters)

Photo of Lexluthor33
3.65/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark brown with a decent sized head and a thin lace.
The aroma of malts,raisins and berries/fruit.
The taste started sweet,alcohol taste with malts,berry tones and cherries. Some light toffee hints.
The feel was medium body,low carbonation and a sticky finish. The alcohol seems well balanced because it is not offensive at all and seems to the job on a cold night.

Note: If you are feeling a bit cold then have one of these. (428 characters)

Photo of Dukeofearl
3.7/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

500 ml bottle poured into my Spaten glass. Purchased at LaBodega in Riverside, CA. for $4.99, January 2008.

Pours a deep rich chocolate brown with a huge fluffy head. Reminds me of a Root Beer Float with really dark root beer.

Aroma of toasty chocolate malts, and a very faint spiciness. Also a faint, very faint hint of smoke.

Flavor is sweet chocolate and dark German bread. Once again, a hint of spice, with a light hop astringency at the end of the swallow.

Rich full mouthfeel, and the alcohol is well hidden. Overall, a pretty nice beer, although it may be a touch too sweet for more than occasional consumption. (622 characters)

Photo of chetripley
3.7/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from the 500ml bottle into my shaker pint. I like the swing top German bottles, not only because they are good for homebrew later, either. I saw the big 2L bottle in the store but I wanted to taste it before going huge.
There was a lot of carbonation and bold strong flavors, mostly the alcohol punch following the strong maltiness I usually associate with a doppelbock, but there was something extra in there, a little spiciness, that I think made it an effective winter beer too.
Not the best doppelbock I have had, but rather good and a nice presentation. I will try the maibock next from them.
Purchased from Liquor Barn in Niles, I, a good place for Polish, Czech, and German beers. (695 characters)

Photo of musicman575
3.7/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Wow, I saw this behemoth 2-liter bottle at Bevmo for a decent price so I put it in my cart.

Dark and clear like coffee with a thin, tan head that vanishes almost as fast as you can say "Altenmunster Winterbier Doppelbock". It takes about a minute to say though.

Has a carmely smell with less malt than other doppels. A whiff of booze too. It tastes like it too. It's much too light-bodied and clear to find its place in the ranks of thick doppelbock greatness. That doesn't mean it doesn't have enough alcohol. There's plenty of it. (534 characters)

Photo of FtownThrowDown
3.71/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Picked up on clearance at Jungle Jim's. For $1.79 I just couldn't pass it up.
Pours a very dark brown, nearly black in color. About two inches of head form on the pour. Smell is very dark malts with some toffee and nuts coming through in the flavor. For the value this is a very good beer. Medium on the mouthfeel with very good flavor. Easy drinking and well done. (365 characters)

Photo of Proteus93
3.72/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Chestnut brown with some nice red highlights to it. The head forms much browner than doppels tend to, almost having a stouty quality. Unfortunately, retention is nil and it all goes away in a couple minutes.

S: Dark fruit aromas, a toasty malt, and some caramel-toffee scents very mild on the back.

T: Some lighter toffee notes, wholegrain bread, lighter alcohol spiciness, and a touch of bitter flavour.

M: If nothing else, it feels great... a rich body. A bit shy of being creamy and chewy, but very nice all the same. If it had a bigger flavour going on, it would be an absolute hit.

D: Not bad, not great. I'd certainly drink it again if the opportunity arose, but I probably wouldn't go out of my way to pick it up again. Good for a try, though, at least. (771 characters)

Altenmünster Winterbier Dopplebock from Allgäuer Brauhaus AG
82 out of 100 based on 89 ratings.