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Odd Notion - Dark Wheat Ale (Winter 2007) - Magic Hat Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
81
good

87 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 87
Reviews: 79
rAvg: 3.55
pDev: 13.24%
Wants: 0
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Magic Hat Brewing Company visit their website
Vermont, United States

Style | ABV
American Dark Wheat Ale |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: blackie on 10-11-2007

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 87 | Reviews: 79
Photo of BeerAdvocate
4/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Beer review from BA Mag Nov 2007.

Odd Notion is a dark wheat ale that's tagged as an "English Ale," but brewed with 50 percent malted wheat, pale malts, dark-candy sugar, chocolate and Munich malts, and lightly hopped with Hersbrucker.

Pours a dark brown brew with ruby hues and a thick, creamy, tight off-white lace with good stick and retention. Soft fruity and floral aromas with pear, chocolate, a nutty edge, and subtle drop of toffee. Quite smooth on the palate, creamy, and medium-bodied with a rolling even feel on the palate. Up-front there's a slightly tangy raisin-like flavor that introduces a flash of hop bitterness, leafy tannins, a grassy bite, and floral back. Malt pulls through for some balance with roasted nuts, caramel, and raw cookie dough action, plus lingering chocolate cake character. Alcohol becomes noticeable as things warm up, hiding with some spice in the complexities with a slight sugary candy note giving its presence away. Astringent, husky, and tannic towards the finish, leaving behind a bone-dry and wanting-more palate.

Definitely one of the more interesting, complex, and drinkable experimental brews to come out of Magic Hat. It runs from smooth to coarse, from sweet to dry, from light to heavy with changing flavors in each sip. It's a great ride that leaves pairing with food wide open, for instance goat cheese with chocolate drizzle and dried date accompaniment sounds good right about now--wrap it in bacon and bake it, even better.

Photo of Amalak
4.1/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I love the bottle art of a Rapunzel castle and snow. It was a dark brown/red in color. Only a slight head. Very opaque. It also had a nice, leafy, nut smell to it.

Tastes like a good nut brown ale. To be honest it had a sourish taste in the back of the throat. It also had a good, mild spicyness to it. Very good brew. Glad I had a chance to try it.

Photo of oriolesfan4
4/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bought as part of the Magic Hat Winter Sampler.

As the name states, this was one odd beer. It's a hearty 7.5% ABV and tastes almost like a mixed drink as opposed to a beer to me. The taste is mix of many spices with a nice smooth swallow. I'm not sure what about it made me think liquor instead of a beer, but something about the taste tipped me off. Regardless, this was a very good beer.

Photo of thekevlarkid
3.6/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Out of the bottle this beer was a chestnut brown with an ivory head two fingers thick. Mediocre retention and spotty lacing. The aromas was wheat, some spices (nutmeg?) and hints of chocolate. The flavors were quite wintery, bready malt, toasted wheat, spices again that I can't place and chocolate undertones. The mouthfeel is good and the flavors coat the tongue but it was a light/medium bodied beer which seems too light to me for the winter. Otherwise it's a good offering but it lacks depth and gumption.

Photo of dewalt
3.7/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark and cloudy with a thin head and faintly spicy aroma. It's got a smooth taste that reminded me favorably of good fruitcake --roasted malts and flavors of spice, molasses, toffee and nuts. At 7.5% alcohol, it packs a bit of a punch, but it doesn't taste too strong.

Photo of brentk56
3.87/5  rDev +9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a cloudy chestnut color with a rocky head that is not as buoyant nor prone to lace as I would have expected for a wheat; good persistence, however

Smell: Brown bread, walnuts, holiday spice and banana, but also a touch phenolic and fusel

Taste: Opens slightly sweet, with the milk chocolate, nuts, spice and banana clearly dominant through mid-palate, when it gets a touch resinous; after the swallow, the sweeter flavors persist along with a growing sense of caramel but there is a bit of bitterness that peaks through and the alcohol makes its presence felt, as well

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: An interesting variant for sure, with just a few flaws too many to be in the upper echelon; definitely worth a taste, however

Thanks, TheManiacalOne, for the opportunity

Photo of hdofu
3.41/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Not bad. Nice rich brown ale. The smell is faintly of toast. kind of reminds me of Has a fainter then average bittersweet wheat taste with a decent alcohol burn which seems to be masking some nutty and wood tastes. The finish is sort of a seltzer finish kind of like how an Italian soda finishes, weird but not bad. Mouthfeel is a bit thin. At 7.5% ABV and thin in taste It isn't one I'd go out of my way to drink again, but it also isn't one I'd turn down either.

Photo of msubulldog25
3.7/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle poured to a pint glass. This one was sent a couple months back by Metalmonk; back label is notched 'best by end of month' at 'A'(pril), '08'. Just snuck this one in before the deadline - Happy Earth Day!

Beneath the cap: 'The Weird should never be Feared'

A: Pours a rather robust chestnut brown, topped with a creamy ivory head, nearly 2-fingers. Head looks nice, but fades quickly and clings in a wide ring. Almost no lace. Thin streams of rising bubbles are scattered all through the glass. Held to light, this reveals some weakening from age: a light haze of tiny suspended yeast bits.

S: Sweet and spicy wheat aroma, like toast with a hint of cinnamon (or nutmeg?). Faint nuttiness and a dash of cocoa. A little citrus orange.

T: A zesty mouthful of spiced bread. It's toasted grain with some cocoa powder, also hints of mint and even some apples skins. Curious the sub-flavors that I'm picking up... Turns drier and more bitter in the finish.

M: Carbonation is, at best, subtle...but borders on being flat. A fine silty grit coats the mouth and a lasting herbal bitterness holds for many minutes.

D: A pretty tasty brew, one I'd like to have again. The Dark Wheat style is one I have limited experience with, but it's one I've really liked every time. Wished I'd opened this a little sooner, as it's so near the 'freshness' date...thanks again to Jeff for sending.

Photo of Stinkypuss
4.92/5  rDev +38.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

I must say this was definately the best brew I've had from Magic Hat.

A. Darker than anticipated with a nice off white head.

S. Toasty and dark.

T. The toastiness gives away to a sweet wheat taste, ended with a chocolate coffee ale aftertaste.

M. Coats the palate and leaves a sweet aftertaste.

D. All day. Oh how I miss these.

Photo of Deuane
3.58/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A-Hazy cola hue with an initial medium tan head that reduces to a thin ring leaving spotty lacing.

S-Spicey notes with understones of chocolate. A bit of hops.

T-Much like the smell with a decent chocolately flavour. A fairly solid beer but everything is subdued, could be bumped up a bit.

M-Medium-light body with nothing outstanding.

D-Totally unoffensive, decent flavour but nothing really stands out. Certainly not bland but then again it doesnt pop the taste buds either.

Photo of andrewt960
3.38/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Not bad in color. On the dark brown side, but not really cloudy. Nice off white head, but disappears quickly. As for smell, malty up front, and kinda fruity. Not much hops coming though, but a small amount once tasted. Mouth feel is nice, pretty carbonated, and malt was kinda sweet. Not a bad beer for 7.5%, and it had a pretty nice after taste.Would like to have another.

Photo of fitzy84
3.65/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Very murky, dark amber appearance. Lacing occurred fast from its thin head. Sweet and slightly smoked smells of malt and spice line the medium wintery aromas. The taste is sweet as well with hints of sourish citrus and hops. Good medium body with a thick finish. Overall this was not bad at all.

Photo of smcolw
3.22/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Light brown/dark amber color; quite cloudy.

Dark malt nose without the chocolate/mocha smells. Light hop. I couldn't detect any wheat.

Relatively dry with (oddly) milk chocolate flavors. Relatively thin liquor, good carbonation. I find this to be unremarkable but a solid step up from the macro-produced dark beers. Again, I can't find any wheat.

No flaws but nothing special either.

Photo of indiapaleale
3.8/5  rDev +7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This one pours similar to a weizenbock. Its dark and cloudy with suspended yeast just hanging around in my glass. Not much head on this one, but I think it got pretty cold in the back of my truck so maybe I should have let it warm up a bit. Despite looking like a dark German wheat beer, the yeasty and clovey smell is not apparent. The smell is more crisp and sweet with a bit of alcohol presence.

The taste is interesting. Its not really malty like you'd expect and its not hoppy (which I didn't expect anways). There is a definite after taste of alcohol despite being relatively low (to be able to taste it so much) in alcohol at 7.5% but it doesn't take away from its drinkability. Maybe its the candy sugar?

It might now sound like it, but I do like this one. Its a unique beer and I give Magic Hat credit for putting this one in their mixed packs. If anyone wants to trade 3 of these for my Circus Boys let me know!

Photo of mmmbeer
3.54/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 oz., brewed with pale, chocolate, and Munich malts, along with 50% malted wheat, dark candy sugar, and Hersbrucker hops; 25 IBUs. An unfiltered mahogany brew, with medium carbonation and an inch of frothy tan head that reduces to a thin collar. Wheat and hints of chocolate in the nose, along with light hops and some sweetness. Chocolatey wheat on the palate, with spicy hops and yeast, some heat, and a bitterness that is too prevalent for this brew. Tingly, medium/full body that is lightly dry and lingers for a little while. Not too bad of a brew, but it's a bit harsh at fridge temperature.

Photo of yourefragile
3.53/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle poured into a pint glass

A: Dark, cloudy amber/copper with non-offensive amount of sediment. A rather thin off white head with little retention and lacing
S: Surprisingly malty. Also spice, citrus, wheat, all together everything is pretty mild.
T: Smooth mouth feel with moderate carbonation. Starts off with wheat/yeasty taste with malt background and has light hop finish. Not perfect, but I'm having a hard time really picking what is off in the taste. Altogether this is a pleasant beer that I wouldn't mind drinking a few more of. At $1 a bottle at Trader Joe's it'll do.

Photo of deltatauhobbit
3.68/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

From the Magic Hat mix pack with a best-by date of April 2008.

Pours a murky amber/brown with a big fluffy off-white head, good amount of lacing.

Smell is mostly malty, strong caramel presence, some other spiciness as well.

Taste has a strong kick of roasted malt with lots of spiciness, a bit sticky in the mouth, decent carbonation level.

Photo of gobias
3.36/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

I like to try Magic Hat's seasonal beers, usually they are different and hardly ever bad. Though this is not my favorite it is a drinkable beer.

It pours darkly with little foam.

The smell is very smoky.

There is a lot of flavor, mostly a smokey flavor. I enjoyed a couple but was ready to move onto somethign else after those.

Photo of AleDrinkToThat
3.3/5  rDev -7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Hazy copper hue with some sediment floating all around in there, under a nearly non-existent head.

Smell: Spiced citrus, pungent hop aroma. The smell is, honestly, probably the best part.

Taste: Decent flavor for a winter ale; Citrus, some spice and a flowery hops bouquet.

Mouthfeel: A little light bodied than I care for, for its type. It's pretty smooth, and there's some welcome tartness.

Drinkability: There are other, better ales of this style out there. In fact, just pick up a Sam's Winter Lager if it's in season. It's a better beer to enjoy in the winter months. Aw heck, just grab a double bock.

Photo of shirfan
2.88/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

There's wheat in this? seriously? My bottle matches the one in the picture, so here goes...

Clear but brownish-copper in color with a bunch of very small particulate matter floating around. Not much foam to speak of.

Smell: Odd is right. Figs, spruce, cocoa powder, wet sock, and fast food french fries fight for supremacy.

Taste: Prunes. A hint of tobacco. Warming alcohol in the finish with a touch of Elmer's paste. One of the weirdest beers I've sampled -- it's almost as if someone at Magic Hat boiled the contents of their kitchen junk drawer and then pitched Belgian yeast into the mess.

I'd refuse another of these even if free, but I'll finish this glass out of morbid curiosity. In a word: bizarre.

Photo of tempest
3.92/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at Kitty Hoynes in Syracuse.

The bartender said it was an Irish dry stout, and I can see the resemblance. The light was low in the bar, making it appear pitch black with a tan head. The aroma was a wonderful mix of coffee, cocoa powder, and dark bread crust. The flavor gets a little thin at times, but there's still a nice mix of toffee and chocolate with bready malts. The mouthfeel and drinkability were the most sriking aspects of the better. Yeah, it tasted good, but there's a slight sour feel with the aftertaste, a bit like Guinness, but better. It made for a super easy drinking beer in that there's a nice sweet and dry bitter aftertaste, but with a tang that makes you want another pint.

Photo of WVbeergeek
3.43/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appears a deep murky robust mahogany brown hue with a large beige billowing head dwindles at a moderate pace thin scarce lacing sticks to my pint. Aroma has a funky yeast driven note bordering between doughy and sticky in origin, mild caramel malts with start acidic underlying fruit notes. Hops come of herbal but again brewer's yeast reigns dominant, maybe all that sediment could have waited. Flavor comes upright with roasted caramelized malts and subdued fruit tartness, raisin and apple with a strong powdered yeast cake flavor crashing the party. Funky yeast really dominates in a good way with dark chocolate roast bitterness and complex fruit notes pairing up in the finish an interesting Magic Hat experience in progress. Mouthfeel is medium bodied carbonation tickles the throat but finish is really warming and rich in B vitamins so what the hell, yep the finishes dry with yeast. Drinkability is decent upfront yeast funk grows on you with each sip I love bottle conditioned beers from Magic Hat, makes me think of their beers from the past. Part of the winter sampler I'm always sure to support a brewery that thrives of a cult following with little or no marketing.

Photo of nrpellegrini
3.2/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle poured to pint glass.

A: thick tan 2 finger head, dark cloudy brown
S: malty, spices, small hoppy hint
T: initial spicy hoppyness, smooths out to malty spice, smokey aftertaste, little bitter
M: initial bite, smooths out, so-so aftertaste
D: decent

Pretty good beer, judging by appearance I thought it would be heavy but it wasn't. Try it.

Photo of Floydster
3.33/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 ounce bottle that was part of a Magic Hat mixed pack I received in a trade, split with a friend, poured into a pint glass

A-Medium brown with more of an amber color when held up to the light, 1/2 inch white creamy head, weak retention, zero lacing

S-Not much going on here, roasted malts, some toffee and caramel, bready malt aromas, and wheat, all the scents were faint

T-Wheat up front, then some spices, and a dry hoppy finish, as it warmed it became a little sweeter because of the malt, dark fruits came to the surface, grainy with moments of brown sugar, rushes of tiny bubbles, decently balanced, not a bad taste overall

M-Thin body, too much carbonation, very watered down, taste lasted for a little while, both spicy and dry mouthfeel

D-Could drink a few bottles of this, not too heavy, although alcohol percentage is pretty high but hidden for the most part, pretty smooth

Have not had many dark wheat ales but this one seemed pretty strong, not bad overall, not what I was expecting, recommended more than some of their other brews I tasted tonight

Photo of far333
3.85/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Murky reddish orange with specks of flotsam moving around. A vigorous pour is required to kick up a quarter-inch head that settles down quickly.

Aroma of sweet grainy malt, some toffee and faint clove. Flavor starts out caramelly, moves to sweet malt and cocoa, finishes spicy peppery. Might not peg it for wheat if I didn't already know.

Even and smooth mouthfeel, moderate carbonation, wraps with a tingle. Above average, fairly drinkable, but not earthshattering.

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Odd Notion - Dark Wheat Ale (Winter 2007) from Magic Hat Brewing Company
81 out of 100 based on 87 ratings.