Odd Notion - Chocolate Belgian Stout (Fall 2009) - Magic Hat Brewing Company

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Odd Notion - Chocolate Belgian Stout (Fall 2009)Odd Notion - Chocolate Belgian Stout (Fall 2009)

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Ratings: 112
Reviews: 84
rAvg: 3.74
pDev: 17.65%
Wants: 1
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Magic Hat Brewing Company visit their website
Vermont, United States

Style | ABV
Belgian Dark Ale |  6.20% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 08-02-2009

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 112 | Reviews: 84
Reviews by DannyS:
Photo of DannyS
3.83/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a pint glass.

A - Pours thickly; a stout-like pitch black with very little head. Despite the lack of top foam, it looks velvety smooth.

S - Roasty coffee, smoky notes, and a background aroma of dried fruit. Picked up an occasional whiff of some sort of unpleasant mustiness.

T - Very roasty bitter with a twinge of sweetness in its robust, smoky profile. A slightly sour, fruity profile begins to seep through as it warms. Does not finish dry, but the bitterness lingers.

M - Thick, smooth, and pretty fizzy. a good balance of textures.

D - The ABV is a titch high and the bitterness does stick around for a while, so it's not really a session brew, but finishing a whole glass is not difficult at all.

Overall - It's officially a Belgian ale, but seems to carry traits of stout and even rauchbier. A delicious mutt of a beer.

More User Reviews:
Photo of generallee
4.87/5  rDev +30.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: The new fall seasonal in the very cool night of the living dead variety 12-pack. It was poured from a brown 12oz bottle into a pint glass. There is a best before the end of Oct. date on the back label of the bottle.

Appearance: It pours like used motor oil, thick, viscous and dark brown/black into the glass. In the glass beers color is as black as the night and opaque. On top sits a thick and creamy light brown head. It is about one finger tall and slowly fades to thin coating of lacy foam. The lacing is slick and slides down the sides of the glass as I drink.

Smell: The aroma is full and rich. It has notes of dark roasted grain, molasses, burnt caramel, light herbal/metallic hops and a hint of smoke.

Taste/Palate: The flavor has a deep roasted character with nice complexity and balance. There are flavor notes of roasted coffee, roasted grain, dark chocolate, burnt caramel and molasses. Underneath there seems to be a hidden estery/yeast flavor as well. This comes out more as the beer warms and adds dark fruity notes of ripe plums and black mission figs. Herbal and leafy hops come in on the back end and give it a good balance of bitterness to the sweet and roasted flavors in the finish. The palate has a solid medium to full body with soft carbonation and a slick viscous texture.

Notes: I love this beer!!! It has great complexity and good drinkability. The only thing I would like is a little more head retention but other than that it is a nearly perfect Belgian Stout. I think that Magic Hat should add this one to there regular line up!!!

Photo of WVbeergeek
3.9/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Another impressive fall sampler selection from a large "micro" brewery who happens to make craft beer. Appears a pitch black hue body that absorbs all spectrums of visible light, large mocha tan head forms thick with some large bubbles scattered throughout. Streaks of lacing forms on the sides of my chalice, pretty nice looking dark brew from Magic Hat. Aroma very big with dark dried dark fruits like plum with another component of citrus fruit, big and roasted malt profile arises with dark cocoa and dry bittering coffee accents. Flavors bring big roasted malt complexity matched with lactic creamy tones and sharp acidic fruit qualities with each sip. By the way the website states that this is a Black Stout nowhere can I find any Belgian yeast strain mentions or strong dark ale info and frankly 6.2 is more in line with an American Stout than with a Belgian Strong Dark Ale. Finishes roasty with some dry bitterness from that, also herbal hops notes are expressed a bit watery in a since but definitely susbtantial enough to fulfill the shoes of a good stout. Drinkability is definitely doable, I enjoy dark brews from South Burlington it's a shame they don't release much anymore this is a welcome addition to brews of the past that I loved so dearly for example Heart of Darkness.

Photo of apbarwood
3.75/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Black with a small sandy-colored head. Interesting aroma with the coffee/roasted malt but a hint of fresh banana nut bread. The coffee and chocolate come through on the palate with the banana losing a little bit. There's still a hint of a milky sweetness there though but not quite what I'd hoped based on the aroma. The mouthfeel is nice and thick but doesn't have much of a finish. I'd say it's a decent beer and I'd drink it again if it was offered but I can think of better BSDA's or stouts.

Photo of dacrza1
3.95/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Situation: Watching The Wizard of Oz for the first time straight through...
Glassware: Yuengling pint...
Appearance: dark black body witha crackling, foamy brown head that settles in time to a ring...
Aroma: sweet lactic fragrance with a toasted element; fresh and vivacious...
Palate: warm, smooth body with the presence to be reckoned with; effervescent if not a bit slick or oily...
Taste: chocolatey and thick, like a microwaved milkshake--not sure if that is a compliment, but it fits...
Overall: among the autumn sample, this one pleased me with its mellow approach and its complimentary place among party food fare. The odd notion was not odd at all, actually--a solid stout...

Photo of GratefulBeerGuy
3.69/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

opaque Darkness, mocha coffee foam head, nice retention.

I'm really enjoy the sweet fruits and big malts in the aroma, red grapes, sour dates, soft and tangy with chocolate malt and a dry-sour yeast aroma that is really nice. mild heat at the end.

roastie, dark malts bitter chocolate with a dry and earthy yeast. The hops and earthy yeast adds a really nice counter-punch to the malt. both spectrums of flavor's are allowed to shine! bitter and dry effect is pretty heavy and a dense malt complexity of sour fruits and black coffee. yeah, it all works pretty well, although the chocolate malt is a bit too slick and heavy feeling, full bodied with a decent bite though.

This is a stlye bender for sure, it's a nice complex yeast but the malt comes off as too chunky for my taste.

Photo of hreb
2.84/5  rDev -24.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Odd Notion Fall 09 pours black, like stout, with a thin brown head that disappears quickly. Cold 12 oz bottle poured into tapered pint glass. Aroma is slightly more hoppy than appearance suggests, and sweeter/estery like either a hefeweiss (which this isn't) or a belgian dark ale (which this apparently is!).

First sip is alarmingly thin. Not "thin" like a dry stout, but more like a black lager. Smokey, and stery flavors still come, but otherwise the beer is mostly bland. Not overly carbonated, and hides the 6.2% ABV quite nicely. Still, overall I'm not impressed.

Photo of BeerZack
3.04/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 3 | feel: 1 | overall: 1.5

Pretty black with a tan foamy ring of head that laces a bit.

Smell is interesting- roasty, almost smokey, good dose of vanilla and hints of chocolate chip trail mix (nutty and dates or raisins). Almost a bourbon barrel quality to it. Nice+

Awe, taste is a let down for sure- starts off nice, if a bit light, same rich vanilla oakiness and chocolate notes as in the nose, but then falls off as the dark roasty malts just overpower this beer with their tannic astringency. Nothing really bad going on, just out of balance with the light body of this beer (its only 6.2%). Hard for me to swallow this beer.

Photo of morimech
4.12/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Odd Notion is an odd beer. A very dark color with a small head that fades to a collar of bubbles. Very little lace is left on the glass. The aroma is a combination of dark or over-ripen fruit and roasted malt. A unique combination of Belgian yeast and English malt. The flavor is also a collaboration of styles. Starts with fruity fones but then it switches to roasted, almost burnt tasting malt. Hints of smoke and chocolate as well. The body is not as full as I would like in order to better compliment the flavors. The carbonation is nice. The combination of flavors is something I enjoyed but it might not be for everyone. Definately worth a try at least once.

Photo of BeerSox
4.1/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle into wine glass.

Pitch black, opaque, with a one finger brown head. It fizzled away quickly but I'm using a wine glass at my parents' house that was in the dishwasher.

Roasty malts along with a little bit of bitter chocolate, mixed with typical Belgian spicy phenols.

The phenols come out a little more in the flavor, but it's still mostly the burnt malts. The chocolate is back, but a little sweeter. Full bodied.

This is a good example of the Belgian Stout style (not on BA yet, but it's a style I'm creating, sort of) with it's roasty malts mixed with the phenolic Belgian yeast. Recommended.

Photo of hockeynut
3.28/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Almost pure black, Nice dark brown head that dissipates quickly, leaving nice lacing.

S: Smell of roasted malts, licorice and smoke. Little hop smell.

T: Taste of smoke upfront, lots of roasted malts, and very little hops.

M: Nice carbonation, great mouth feel, light to medium body.

D: Good drinkability, but can only drink 2. Great beer once in a awile, but not my every day beer.

Photo of scottg
4.2/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Filled a growler at the brewery and brought it home and poured it into a Magic Hat snifter glass. This beer is actually a Belgian Chocolate Stout.

Pours a jet black color, no light gets through with a one finger dark tan head with light retention leaving light lacing. Smoke and roasted malt are the up front aromas that give way to raisin and cherry. Complex flavors of smoke, roasted malts, cherry, raisin, dark chocolate and espresso all taking turns as the dominant flavor. Medium high carbonation, full body, very well balanced with a delightful raisiny finish.
For those who feel that all Magic Hat beer taste alike, you should try this one. By far, the best I've had from this brewery. Makes me look forward to future Odd Notions.

Photo of TexIndy
3.62/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a snifter. Back label had notches for best by end of Oct '09. Was pitch black in color. No visible carbonation. Quick sliding lace. It had a small brown head that dissipated into a collar.

The aroma was roasted chocolate malt, coffee, touch of bourbon with a splash of vanilla. Taste followed the aroma but ended with a good smokiness. This is not one of my favorite styles but this one was good.

Overall, a good beer but again not one of my favorite styles so it can only go so far. If you like the style, this might be a good one to try.

Rotation: good to try it but won't be seeking another (style).

Photo of u2carew
4/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle. Consumed on 9/7/09
A) Opaque. Pours with dark tan head. Lacing is thin, semi-sticky.
S) Bready. Caramel. Chocolate. Light brown sugar notes. Some maple syrup below the surface.
T) Roasted grain. A mellow smokiness up front. Cocoa and coffee in the finish and lingers in the aftertaste.
M) Fizzy. Thick. Chewy. Full bodied. A lingering residue in the aftertaste.
D) Before knowing the classification - the initial thought was "a stout from Magic Hat? No way!" A very good brew.

Photo of squirrelpirate
4.37/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Magic Hat Odd Notion Fall 09 pours a dark brown with a reddish tint and a very minimal brown head that barely coats the top of the beer. The aroma consists of molasses, cherries, nuttiness, roasted barley, and coffee notes.

Coffee, tart cherries, and chocolate come through very strongly in the taste, along with some alcohol, roastiness and sourness. An extremely pleasant blend with a slight bitterness at the end.

It has a lighter mouthfeel than you would expect and is very smooth. In between medium and full-bodied with appropriately low carbonation. This is certainly not a session beer, and therefore gets docked points for drinkability, but is very enjoyable. I want to get my hands on more of these!

Photo of peabody
4.03/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours out a thick dark black with one finger of tan suds. Some lacing.
Smell is almost a fruity porter and not a lot of the belgian spices are present. Chocolate and raisin are most present to the nose.
Taste is dark chocolate malt and a medicinal alcohol quality. Kind of strong but really good.
Mouthfeel is a bit dirty but leaves the palate ready for the next drink.
So, drinkability is good even though it has a bourbon kick to it.

Photo of mikesgroove
3.55/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

reviewed from notes, this one was serve in a pint glass during a magic hat tasting i had with my brother in law down at his apartment.

the our was a nice dark brown color with this tin wispy head of off white that capped the top only for a slight time offering little in the way of side lacing. aroma of roasted malts, light smoke, and hints of chocolate, nice and warming, but lacked the punch i was looking for. flavor was more of the same, not bad at all, had all the right markers there with light peat, lots of chocolate, deep roasted profile, just too light for me to be honest. thin feel as i find with alot of these beers, but easy to drink and a smooth aftertaste.

overall not sure who piked the style on this one, but that is definitley off, but the beer itself was solid and decently put together.

Photo of Amalak
3.88/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- It's basically completely black and has a reddish/brown, thick foamy head and lots of lace.
S- Smokey, cigar scent.
T- Has a cherry, malt taste. It's smokey. But has a much sweeter taste than say a pure stout. It's different and it's definitely worth a go.

Photo of deltatauhobbit
4.15/5  rDev +11%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a thick viscous black with a small amount of tan head that fades fast and leaves little lacing. Wasn't really expecting something so dark to come from Magic Hat so this might be a treat (or trick).

Smell has a rich roasted malt aroma, some molasses and chocolate.

Taste is a lot of roasted malt, slight burnt aspect, hints of chocolate and a little larger hint of coffee and molasses, quite bitter, heavy carbonation almost cola-ish.

Photo of ommegoose
3.02/5  rDev -19.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Fall mixed 12 pack.

Poured into a tulip. Opaque black. Brown head, but fizzes out rather quick, leaving a ring.

Smoky. This is not what I expected. Dark and fruity with one sniff, stout-like with another. That bready, yeasty Belgian ale aroma is in there too.

Odd indeed. Smoky burnt malt dominates a beer with a clear Belgian yeast character. The smoke has a little touch of sweetness. At times fruity like dark cherries. Softens a bit as I get adjusted. No hop profile of note. I don't dislike this, but too much burnt malt. Frankly, I don't get coffee or chocolate or mocha at all. Astringent and dry finish.

Has about the right amount of body, but would benefit from a livelier carbonation.

Can't say I'm real enthused at first, but it grew on me a bit. It still is beer after all. It must seem that there's a reason beers like this aren't in mass production. Probably very niche. Looking at reviews I guess I'm going to be the low man by now. Still have two more, and I'll probably try again at a higher temp to see if that astringency evens out.

Photo of DrDemento456
3.68/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Had this about a month ago when it was at my bottle shop. I thought I would review it since I recently had the winter release.

A - Dark red almost black yet transparent
S - chocolate and cherries.
T - Lived up to the taste but was kind of watery. Still it wasn't as bitter as most of the chocolate beer I have tried which was a plus.
M - moderate kind of dry. It was ok but I really wanted more creamy out of this beer.
D - I had one and it was enough. If it comes around again as a solid Magic had beer I would sample it again but I believe they could lower the abv and make it taste a bit better. Still it lived up to the name Odd Nation.

Photo of Pegasus
3.5/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Deep obsidian in color, with poor lacing. The head utterly collapses quickly. The lacing is thin and scattered.

Aroma: Dark, roasted malt, molasses, burnt caramel, earth, and a bit of smoke.

Taste: Opens with lots of roasted malt and cold coffee. As the taste progresses, faint vinous alcohol appears. As the taste progresses, the dark charred malt dominates. Finishes with a long, lingering roasted malt note.

Mouth feel: Smooth and full, very soft.

Drinkability/notes:: Well-made and very drinkable, I regret it is a "one-shot". Reviewed from an old tasting notebook.

Presentation: Packaged in a standard twelve-ounce brown glass long-neck bottle with a pry-off crown, served in a New Belgium Brewing chalice.

Photo of Mag00n
4.22/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I somehow scored a fall '09 night of the living dead variety pack at a podunk gas station in maine...seemed a little early being the end of july, but having tasted the odd notion(belgian chocolate) at a beer fest a few weeks back, i couldnt resist.

A: pours jet black with a few thin mocha head

S: smell is mostly of chocolate and a hint of hops

T: taste follows smell, chocolate upfront with a chocolate malty aftertaste, very pleasant, no bitterness

M: mily/creamy mouthfeel, mediumly carbonated, very nice

D: extremely drinkable. I had no problem drinking all 3 of them in my variety pack in one night. Theres nothing overwhelming here, so you dont ever really get sick of it. I had one on a 85* day outside and i found it rather refreshing

Photo of dsa7783
3.9/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Single, twelve-ounce copped from Joe Canal's in Lawrenceville...
"Fall '09" on the logo sticker along with a decorative skeleton...
Sweet, pungent, dark malt aroma with hints of chocolate raspberries...
Pours a deep, dark, mocha hue with a slight head and minimal lacing that gradually dissipated...
Heavy on the aroma and flavor with hints of dark fruits, dehydrated figs, prunes, and cappuccino... Interesting stuff from Magic Hat and certainly not a horrible rendition of the style...

Photo of ppoitras
2.55/5  rDev -31.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

12oz bottle received as a trade extra from VanillaMike. Thanks for the opportunity.

Poured into an imperial pint glass, formed a 1/2" dark brown head over the opaque dark brown/black brew. Head recedes slowly, with leggy, slow-falling lace. Aroma is dark malts, prominent fruit, light tartness. Taste is cherries and rich, almost cloying sweetness, closes tart, with a chalky aftertaste. Mouthfeel is okay, but drinkability is knocked down by my unhappiness with the flavor. Odd notion, indeed.

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Odd Notion - Chocolate Belgian Stout (Fall 2009) from Magic Hat Brewing Company
84 out of 100 based on 112 ratings.