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Odd Notion - American Sour Ale (Winter 2009) - Magic Hat Brewing Company

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Odd Notion - American Sour Ale (Winter 2009)Odd Notion - American Sour Ale (Winter 2009)

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BA SCORE
70
okay

135 Ratings
THE BROS
80
good

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Ratings: 135
Reviews: 109
rAvg: 2.98
pDev: 22.15%
Wants: 0
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Magic Hat Brewing Company visit their website
Vermont, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  4.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Brad007 on 09-20-2009

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.
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Ratings: 135 | Reviews: 109
Reviews by jermar:
Photo of jermar
1.36/5  rDev -54.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

This beer tastes just like vomit. I never get hangovers but this one gave me a doozy. Magic Hat comes out with some great experimental beers, but if they had any quality control they would have dumped this batch down the drain. This beer just tastes like vomit.

More User Reviews:
Photo of Jason
3.5/5  rDev +17.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz brown bottle with a freshness date.

Tawny haze topped with a meringue-like head. Tart nose of lemon zest, taffy and vague berries. Lacks crispness and smoothness yet makes up for it with a creamy slick medium body. Tart, sure ... but it peaks quite low which lets the maltiness come through and compliment and contrast at the same time. A little biscuity while the tartness holds on. Semi-dry finish.

A big dog on a short leash, the guttural growl is impressive compared to the bite. A safe tart beer among the uber beer geeks though way outside of the box for the rest of the world ... get a wine drinker to try this one, who know. Glad I tried this.

Photo of merlin48
3.43/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Bottle thanks to mntlover. Pours a hazy brown body with a small beige head that leaves some wispy lace.

Aroma is very subtle. Hints of toffee and sour green apples.

Light medium body with below average carbonation. Feels a bit thin.

Taste is sour Granny Smith apples with a hint of toffee. Kind of funky, for sure, but hard to identify any Brett. Tart and sour into the finish.

Very drinkable, very strange. I liked it but it's difficult to review in that it's so different from any wild or sour ales I've ever tried.

Photo of Mora2000
3.08/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

The beer pours a brown color with almost no head. I usually expect a strong aroma from wild ales, but this beer has only a faint malty and slightly funky aroma. The taste is slightly tart, with cherry being the predominant fruit flavor. I also get a little vinegar in the taste. This beer is fairly drinkable, but there is not too much wild character to the beer. Compared to other American Wild Beers this beer falls well short. Still not a bad beer, but not what I am looking for in this style of beer.

Photo of WVbeergeek
4.25/5  rDev +42.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a slightly clouded mahogany brown with ruby highlights when held toward the light. Head is thin poured beautifully into my Liefmans chalice nice and open allows the tart characteristics to flow for me. Lacing is even but fine speckled. Aromatics are tame but evidently sour with ripe fruits lying underneath the tart candy sweetness. Vinous, cherries with the skin, and apricot notes come around in the smell. I bit of oak and barrel like notes intermingling. Refreshingly tart with a clean watery oak finish. Upfront cider notes with cherries and other more citrus oriented fruits hit with a quick one two punch finished with a watery oak K.O. Mouthfeel is light and fleeting with airy carbonation bittering and souring effects are left on the palate from the oak chips added not much vanilla going on but it's there in the background. Drinkability overall this is a nice welcome mass produced American Wild ale that I will definitely drink again when offered one. Most beer drinkers won't get this one but I definitely do, strange brew for folks like us hats off to Magic Hat.

Photo of glid02
2.78/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottle purchased from Green's on Ponce in Atlanta.

Pours a clear brown color with a one-finger tan head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving light lacing.

Smells of almost nothing. After letting it warm for a bit hints of caramel malts waft out along with mild tart fruits.

Tastes much stronger than the smell would indicate however that's not necessarily a good thing. Lightly toasted caramel malt flavors are overtaken almost immediately by vinegar and nondescript tart fruit flavors. Nothing works together and I would be very interested to know how this beer came together to be this distinct. Ending is muddled and leaves hints of tart fruits on the palate.

Mouthfeel is alright. It's got a decent thickness but the carbonation is on the heavy side.

Drinkability is not good at all. I didn't come close to finishing the bottle.

Overall this may be my least favorite MH beer I've had. I keep hoping I'll be pleasantly surprised by them a la Roxy Rolles or that they'll sneak a great beer by whomever is in charge and bottle it as an Odd Notion however I'm beginning to think that's not going to happen. Avoid this beer.

Photo of Metalmonk
2.81/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Looks great...the head is creamy and cratered in spots, while lace hangs on the glass in spots and splats. Color is the best aspect of this beer's looks--a hazy, deep, rich auburn that shows off rusty highlights.

Predominantly fruity nose, typical of just about all Magic Hat beers. A bit musty, possibly some anise creeping in, but it's faint. All in all pretty ho-hum and one-dimensional.

From a fruity nose to a sour/tart taste. I know the difference between sour and tart, this beer just happens to exhibit both elements. A chalky, candy-like tartness too, as in Sweet Tarts candies. Some lemon zest, and...um...not much else. No real depth. Not sure what they're going for here. Even as a sour ale, it can't possibly hold up to the best in its category. If it's supposed to be a wild ale, then whatever the yeast is supposed to be imparting, it's failing.

Decent medium body, a little heavy on the carbonation but round enough. Pretty slick, and a little puckering action makes this feel stickier than it is.

Magic Hat consistently offers cool label art, fun beer names, seasonal mixed packs, a wide variety of beer styles, even wacky quips under the bottle caps. Their beers don't always live up to all the trappings, and this is possibly the worst I've had by them. Go for their Lucky Kat, Jinx or Roxy Rolles instead.

Photo of psujesus
2.85/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

not bad for my first wild ale i guess, good thing i got 3 of these from the winter pack, didnt quite like the first one

had a nice dark amber color to it when poured,didnt quite like the fruity/veggie taste to it the first couple times, again a fruity smell, decent amount of carbonation to it, just about the only part i really liked at first

i guess sours and wild ales aren't really my thing but other than that it was a decent beer

Photo of KOPBeerDrinker
3.18/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from bottle into pint glass. SWhort head formed after vigorous pour and quickly went away. Color is drak brown with reddish hue.

Smells of sour or tart fruit, similar to cranberry.

Tastes of sour fruit and some bready malt in the background.

Mouthfeel is medium with tingly carbonation. This beer has grown on my the more I drink it, but I don't think I would buy again.

Photo of morimech
3.11/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a dirty, hazy amber color with one inch of off-white head that had good retention. Moderate amount of spotty lacing is left on the glass. The aroma gives away the sour aspect of this beer but otherwise it is very tame. Hints of apples and cherries along with some crystal malt. Just slightly sour flavor. Again this is a very tame sour beer. Has an almost artificial flavor. Typical Magic Hat mineral flavor. Thin body with fizzy carbonation. Feels right for this beer. I would not bother drinking this beer again. Unremarkable in just about every way.

Photo of bum732
3.82/5  rDev +28.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a murky dark brown, decent head that dissipates to a ring around the glass. Smells of earthy spices, cinnamon, anise, oaky wood, some chocolate, some fruits, rasberries specifically. Tastes of sweet fruity malt, passion fruit and rasberries mostly, that leads to a lemon like sourness. Finishes quite smooth with some earthiness. Medium mouthfeel, decent carbonation.

A surprising beer, smells similar to #9 with the fruitiness. A very tame wild ale overall, very sessionable, as hard to believe as that is. Fairly one noted, but hey, what do you expect.

Photo of tjd112
3.57/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I poured this into a Sam Smith nonic. The appearance is primo; red-mahogany body, finger off-white head with decent lacing. Smell and taste are both reminiscent of a dry red wine with a little bit of tart cherries mixed in. The mouthfeel is medium to heavy with decent carbonation and this is a drinkable beer. A solid introduction into the world of wild ales.

Photo of fitzy84
3.08/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Had from the holiday sample pack. Sort of dull amber look with little to no lacing or head. Aromas have a fruity sense with mixes of apricot, oranges, cranberry and cherry. Also, interesting mixes of toffee and butter could be sensed. Taste-wise was ok. A little watery with burnt, fruity flavors and a nice touch of vanilla. Again, the drink was a little watery but had a somewhat silky texture. Overall, not too bad.

Photo of scottg
3.28/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Picked up a growler of this American sour ale at the brewery and poured into a tulip glass.

Pours a dark granite-reddish color with a one finger off white head that average retention that leaves minimal spotty lacing. Sweet cherry and grainy malt aromas. Tart cherry flavor up front with a sweet malty middle of raisins and currants which return to the tart cherry and leaves a toasted grain aftertaste. Good carbonation up front with a slightly watered down body but a very nice dry finish. Advertised as a beer that will "steal your facebuds", nice GD reference, it's pretty tame. It's a fairly drinkable beer, more like an intro to sours than a great sour.

Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.25/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle poured into a Sprecher nonic. 4.5% ABV, Best By F '10 notched on label.

A - Odd Notion Winter '09 pours a clear brown color with a quickly forming off-white head. The near three-finger head was poorly retained and quickly dropped to a sudsy layer of thin bubbles. Tiny specks of lace were left behind.

S - Sweet caramel and toasted amber malts erupt from the beer. It's very sweet initially. A small tart astringency barely comes through in the back end to clear it up a bit. Very low level of floral hops. Not very mild.

T - The malts almost make it borderline sour brown. Toasted amber malts and caramel once again but that is overpowered, this time by a slightly astringent, sour finish that lacks a good "wild" funk. Definitely could be the age though as it is a lower ABV.

M - Medium-light bodied and smooth with a slight carbonation tickle to the swallow. Dry and sour astringency finishes it out.

D - It probably would have been a little bit better fresh but I can't see it changing all that much from the standpoint that it was in a cooler the whole time. It's not bad for a mild wild ale, it's probably just overshadowed by the saturation of good beers in this now-popular style.

Photo of u2carew
2.6/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

12oz long neck. Consumed 01/03/10

A) Pours with a finger thick head then settles to a thin lacing on top and trace at the edge of the glass. Slight haze. Some upward carbonation. Amber in color.
S) Light malt aroma with a pungent earthy layer.
T) Citrus sour with a touch of caramel malt up front. Then the taste thins out leaving just a lemony sour and a nutty finish.
M) A bit of puckering. Thin and light body despite the dark color. Dry with a tannin feel in the finish.
D) The Odd Notion ongoing series is a usually hit or miss... this is a miss. Not a beer I will drink again.

Photo of mikesgroove
2.26/5  rDev -24.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

reviewed from notes, this one was serve in a pint glass during a magic hat tasting i had with my brother in law down at his apartment.

a murky brown pour yields a semi pour head of off white that barely sticks to the glass long enough to produce any lacing with a light ruby color around the edges of the glass. aroma is sour but not in a good way, light wet hay that was peed on, just off in every aspect, malts that seem moldy and brown sugar? not a good mixture, the flavor was even worse with just a wrong overall profile that did not work in any manner at all. a drain pour for me.

overall i am not sure what this is supposed to be but it was not good.

Photo of thekanna
2.16/5  rDev -27.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Cap says: "Participation makes a great Nation." Amen to that.

A: Dark ruddy brown with a large, foamy tan head.

S: Some roasted malts, faint spices and a general sourness. There is a anise-tinged sweetness also floating in the background.

T: Very sour, like yeasty leavened bread dough before it is baked, with faint sour apples and roasted malts.

M: Somewhat under-carbonated and watery, with a dry finish.

D: This is a little too strange for my taste (and I'm strange enough to be one of those guys who actually LIKES chile beer!); I feel like they were going for funky for the sake of being funky, but in the process lost sight of what it meant to make a good brew.

Photo of buschbeer
2.46/5  rDev -17.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A vigorous pour into a pint glass yielded a couple of inches of light tan head. It is orange/brown in color. It has a sour smell to it. It reminds me of a hefeweizen that is bad. It also has sweet toffee malt smell. It has an off flavor compared to my past expiiences with this style. It is initially tart but gives way to a sweet malt finish that is very clean. This beer is not at all what I expect out of an AWA.

Cheers!

Photo of DrDoitchbig
3.03/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: When set on the table the beer appears to be a partially opaque chocolate brown with some ruby red tinges showing through. But when it's held to the light it turns to an amber color not unlike that commonly seen in an IPA. The off-white head starts off at an uninspiring one finger and quickly fades before I can properly introduce myself to it.

Smell: Dominated by sweet caramel and toffee malts with some tart lemon in the background. It's much sweeter than I expected.

Taste: The lemon like citrus flavors slide into the forefront. This beer is really more tart than it is sour. The sweet malts are still here but are mostly overshadowed by the tart lemon. Along with this there is also an strange, almost tea like bitterness floating around. It's strange, but I kind of like it.

Mouthfeel: The body on this is pretty thin and watery. Carbonation is at a good level, but damn I can't get over the body.

Drinkability: As I said a moment ago this is definitely a strange beer. I enjoyed the experience, but I don't think I'll be repeating it. The whole lemon and tea vibe was just a little too 'Odd'.

This was my first brew from Magic Hat and also my first American Wild Ale. This doesn't really deter or encourage exploration of Magic Hat's line-up. I think I will probably just continue to feel indifferent about their offerings. As for American Wild Ales, from everything I've read and heard I don't believe this is a proper example and I do want to try more beers in this style.

Photo of blackie
3.07/5  rDev +3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Magic Hat isn't typically on my list, but I'll try any wild ale once...

a: snifter serving, tight little head quickly falls back to a thin ring around the glass, the beer a deep, hazy amber in color

s: atypical aroma something like concentrated apple juice with an edge of toasted caramel malt and wheat, cherry and apricot, the sour is present and well integrated, enough fruits for the nostrils to latch onto helps out here, the oak effect is mild but perceptible

m: carbonation on the lighter end but a little coarse, dead on the tongue like nearly flat soda, body around medium but quickly thins and dries

t: much like the aroma, the flavor is appley and wheaty with some toasted caramel malt and dried cherry, quickly turns to a one-dimensional sour flavor that dominates the finish - killing much of the complexity that made the nose worthwhile

d: alright I guess, noting off but nothing to hold your interest either either, and certainly scraping the bottom of the wild/sour field

Photo of ommegoose
3.8/5  rDev +27.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Clear and bright chestnut color with reddish hues in my snifter. Fine carbonation. Doesn't generate any head really, and leaves a thin ring of bubbles around the edge. Final pour is a murky brown with all the yeast.

Musty tartness. Sour cherry and cranberry.

Tart and very refreshing. Slightly acidic. Some grassy bitterness too, reminds me of the dandelion beer from New Belgium. A little oaky and tannic. Most like a sour cherry flavor, or maybe apple cranberry. Malt depth is lightly bready, but this is quite flavorful at 4.5%. Slightly nutty and fruity finish, black cherry. Flavor is crisper and snappier without the sediment.

Tingly fizzy mouthfeel. Light. Suitable.

I'm not crazy crazy about sours, so this was just about right for me. Tartness is the dominant flavor, but it doesn't linger on the finish, making this quite drinkable. This is my first thoughtful review of the style, so this is a bit hard to score. Not understanding the F scores for this at all. Don't be scared by the aggregate. It's an interesting enough beer to give a try.

Photo of mjaskula
3.05/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

I had this one on draft at the brewery and am now reviewing it bottled. This is the first really sour beer that I've reviewed.

Pours a clear copper color with a one finger tanish head that thins to a film. no lacing.

Aroma is sour and sweet with a distinctive fruit aroma, maybe blue berries or raspberries. Flavor is tart with a little bit of malt sweetness. The fruit from the aroma isn't really there in the flavor, more like a cranberry tartness. I remember it being more tart on draft at the brewery.

Mouthfeel is dry, leaving you wanting another sip, but I don't think i would want more than one of these in a sitting.

Photo of mntlover
3.45/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Pours a brown with amber hints foamy cream colored head that falls and leaves some sparse lace.

Aroma is malty, with good fruit notes doesn't really smell tart like it is. Molasses and sugary hints.

Taste is well different then most winter seasonal's. Starts out malty then turns flanderish if thats a word, more like a flanders ale then wild eh who knows. Malt is nice dry vinegary flavors at end are little strange.

Mouthfeel is medium and dry carbonation is nice and mellow.

Drinkability is not great not what i was expecting really.

Photo of DrDemento456
3.3/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I had this in my "Feast of Fools" variety pack. In a way I must have been confused to think it would taste like cherries but it came off as a lambic.

A - reddish brown in color. a bit of lacing that fizzled a bit quick.
S - Sour cherries. Kind of off putting but I figured it would be pretty good.
T - If your a fan of beer sours you would love this. Really moderate sour with a cherry tone. Not really loving this beer.
M - Went smooth after a while of drinking it but really couldn't turn away from how off-putting the sour was.
D - I had six from my case which was too much and ended up in a couple of them throwing in a shot of Butterscotch schnapps. It killed the sour and kind of rounded it out but I wouldn't recommend this since it made the ABV increase to a ridiculous level. Still it really was the only way to down the rest. If magic hat makes anymore sour odd nations I will avoid.

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Odd Notion - American Sour Ale (Winter 2009) from Magic Hat Brewing Company
70 out of 100 based on 135 ratings.