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Plus / Minus - Magic Hat Brewing Company

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123 Ratings
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Ratings: 123
Reviews: 35
rAvg: 3.38
pDev: 14.79%
Wants: 6
Gots: 3 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Magic Hat Brewing Company visit their website
Vermont, United States

Style | ABV
English Dark Mild Ale |  4.20% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: vicsju1991 on 01-20-2012

Brewed with the tradition English style in mind, +/- aims to bring drinkers a truly sessionable craft beer experience. Tried it yet?

15 IBU
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Ratings: 123 | Reviews: 35
Reviews by KTCamm:
Photo of KTCamm
3.45/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 12 ounce bottle into a pint glass.

Poured dark brown, two shades shy of being black. Little foam, very fizzy, settles out. Funky nutty smell. Taste is sweet, nutty, and cola flavored. Earthy? (from notes, but in hindsight not really). A little like flat soda. Or a funkier nut brown. Mild understates it. Hard to fully describe.

More User Reviews:
Photo of Jason
3.5/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz brown bottle with no freshness date.

LOOK: Ruddy brown, clear with a decent amount of head

SMELL: Toasted bread, hay, buttery yeast, hint of fig, faint minty hops

TASTE: Malty, wet, buttery, bread crust, leafy, vague dark fruit, caramel, dry and clean finish

It is what it is and it hits all of the marks sufficient enough to be a Mild Ale but just does not seem to have the soul of that style. Perhaps due to it being not "real ale" and most of the milds I have run into have been on cask or bottle conditioned.

Photo of RTEdmunds
3.82/5  rDev +13%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A fairly dark and clear brown, with a foamy head that dissipates after a bit.

Strong grain presence, and a bit musty as well. Smells like old in an appealing quaint sort of way.

Similar to the nose, it tastes very earthy and grainy. Sweet, but it's offset by some bitterness that sneaks its way in. Taste lingers in the mouth a bit, it's not a bad thing though.

Super sessionable if you enjoy the earthyness. Medium carbonation, more than I expected.

Not my favorite by Magic Hat but it's certainly worth a try!

Photo of WVbeergeek
3.41/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a pale dark copper color with a light beige head forming thick and dwindling slow, visually I'm all about this beer the smell leaves a bit to be desired with light dark roasts. That's about it light fruity accents generic tart cherry with cereal toasted grains. Flavor is light but has a creamy, dark roasted malts with fruit notes. Pretty mild ale, that shows me one thing Magic Hat has been going toward the mainstream. This beer tastes like a pseudo craft from a mislabeled ABI brew. Mouthfeel is light moderate carbonation slightly soft textures going on, easy to drink. A no brainer ale with enough flavor to help you get through it however it doesn't really push the envelope or do anything for beer.

Photo of tastybeer
3.08/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: Not a bad looking brew off the bat. Deep warm brown color with a two finger foamy head. A thin layer with a 1/16" ring remains after it fades. Lace is sparse and sheety.

S: OK. Neither thrilling nor tantalizing by any means. Aroma is of musky malts, biscuit, caramel, a touch of stale coffee, cocoa, and something root-like that faintly reminds me of rooibos.

T: Flavor is also just OK. Malts come through again as musky and also thin. Chocolate, toast, coffee... Fruity yeast, generally diluted flavors, and extra crisp and clean.

M: Decent mouthfeel I suppose. Light body, smooth, with grape-like dryness.

This beer isn't bad, but it does lacks substance. Nothing exciting here.

Photo of tdm168
3.41/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours an amber brown with a thin lacing of off white. The nose has notes of toffee, caramel, butterscotch, and a slight nuttiness. The flavor is very similar; malt forward with caramel taking the forefront followed by a nutty and butterscotch notes. There is a mild fruitiness and sweetness as well. The mouthfeel is light to medium bodied and very crisp.

This isn't bad, but not great either. Again, the creamy, butterscotch-like notes put me off of another Magic Hat offering.

Photo of NeroFiddled
3.73/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Magic Hat "+ / -"

Interesting name. I won't go too far into it, but the point between a positive and a negative number is zero, which is quite possibly the most important number that exists because it equates to nothing, but suggests even more. It's at the center of infinity; and like a black hole, is perhaps the doorway to something that we don't yet understand.

Interesting beer. Most probably find the English dark mild style to be a little too pedestrian, but I swallow it up. It's got flavor, it's got some complexity, and it's a little bit lower in alcohol so you can have a few and not feel out of sorts. The only drawback is, as I see it, that it's a little thinner in the mouth. This version, however, isn't watery at all.

The one thing that I don't like about this beer is the yeast strain. I always find a bit of a stench in the nose of Magic Hat beers with lots of mineral, and I think, a hint of sulphur. It's initially off-putting to me, but then I get past it. Beyond that there's not that much here, a bit of dark caramel, a hint of dull cocoa, and some watered down roastiness.

The flavor, however, offers a beautiful palate of soft fudge, cocoa, golden caramel, darker caramel, light toffee, and delicate, underlying dark fruits. It's moderately bitter, yet it finishes dry - superbly balanced, and very drinkable.

I wish there were more beers like this available on the market, of course no one else would buy them.

Photo of puboflyons
3.47/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

From a 12 fl. oz. bottle stamped: B142-61-01480113. Sampled on April 6, 2012. The pour is a handsome dark amber with a short-lived off-white head that becomes a ring. On the nose is a subtle profile of sweet malts and light hops and a little nutty. The body is in the medium range but smooth. The taste is sweet up front and then mildly bitter. It is a drinkable session beer.

Photo of wedge
2.92/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

"The Devil Is In The Potato Salad"

Pours a dark chestnut color under a slim, frothy ring of a head that dissolves to nothing. Nutty malt, cereal grain, and some dark - slightly tart - fruitiness. A little too clean, which seems to be an issue with Magic Hat beers over the last several years. Dark, dry malt and cocoa flavor, but somewhat watery. Faint toast and fruit, finishing dry. Medium-light body with too much carbonation at first. Too sterile and bland to be all that enjoyable. Not terrible, just not good.

Photo of Arborescence
2.23/5  rDev -34%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Appearance: Dark, almost fully opaque. Pours a one finger head that recedes quickly.

Aroma: Very mild, hints of toast and roasted malt.

Taste: Something a little off about it. There's a little bit of malt, a hint of milk chocolate, and some bitterness. Very underdeveloped though, no depth at all.

Mouthfeel: Light bodied, moderate carbonation.

Overall: Quite disappointing. I've had better beers with half the ABV, so it can't be just that. It's drinkable, but only just.

Photo of Jesse13713
1.55/5  rDev -54.1%
look: 1.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

12oz bottle poured into a pint glass.

Appearance - This looks exactly like A & W light root beer with light vanilla and cola brown hues. Appears extremely watery with two fingers of head that puffs up in the center. This kinda looks like 'dirty' water.

Smell - Very heavy butterscotch and toffee right up front. A very faint sweet spice. All of the aromas are watered down.

Taste - I'm on my fifth drink and I hardly taste a thing. Water floods into the mouth and leaves no taste until being swallowed. This brings out tastes of light vanilla, cola, and Dr. Pepper. Extremely simple, and seems carelessly sloshed together. The low ABV is certainly no surprise. A flat soda-like disaster with light butterscotch notes. I suppose it is a bit nutty as well.

Mouthfeel and Drinkability - I honestly cannot tell the difference between drinking this and drinking a soft drink. If I didn't have any previous knowledge that this was a beer, I'd think I was drinking flat fountain Dr. pepper mixed with cola, A & W root beer, and Sprite. This is really just a watery mess. I picked the right beer to have before leaving for work. I was worried about finishing one in time, but I've drank 3/4 of it in the time it took to write this short review. Insanely drinkable, but that's not a good thing in this case. Sorry Magic Hat, but you continue to underwhelm my taste buds. At least I can finish it and it's not a drain pour.

Photo of DrDemento456
3.5/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Well it's dark and it has a mild tint to it. Head is minimal with a slight lace ring but lacing is sticky.

S - Can't knock the taste it smell English with malts and has a nutty aspect to it with sweet toffee.

T - Body is nice for such a session ABV. Flavors are mild (expected) with sweet malts, toffee, and a smooth nutty finish.

M - Light to medium but balanced.

Overall one of the better Magic Hat beers I have had with smooth sweet flavors and a nice smooth body. Would have another.

Photo of shand
3.94/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a Sam Adams perfect pint.

Hey, this'll be my first Dark Mild review. I've partaken in several pints of Cigar City's El Lector, but never in an environment conductive to reviewing. It pours out a deep red with some brown tinges to it. A centimeter of head steadily crowns the brew. The aroma is primarily nutty, with chocolate, roastiness, and just a touch of hops. The taste is good, it's got a nice complexity to it, with the nuttiness, roastiness, chocolate, and a touch of dark fruits all intertwining. The finish is earthy and hoppy before leaving a nice clean, dry feeling on the palate. The drinkability is, as to be expected, very good. Overall, it's a good Mild. I'd really like to find a honest Dark Mild from England to compare this to.

Photo of JayS2629
3.53/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This must be new seeing that I'm the second review. I knew I hadn't seen or tried it before. Out of the spring seasonal mix 12 pack. Sorta boring and bland and not my cup o' beer...that gives it a minus, but it nailed what it advertised itself as...a mild dark ale. that gives it a plus. So lets grade it on what it advertised itself as.

It isn't too dark...its a cola color with brown and red tints and a good clarity actually. Definitely a dark ale and not a porter look...nailed the color...that is a plus. Thin and fuzzy head that fades fast and leaves light sea foam lacing that falls quickly as well...that is a minus.

Clean, bready, hints of cocoa and roasted grain. Mild...that is a plus. No hop presence...very clean and bland. Bland is a minus.

Taste is better so we get to make up some minuses. It nails being a mild dark flavor. Too mild and bland for me so a plus for nailing what it advertised and a minus for being boring. Faint cocoa, faint roast, some bready flavors and a bitter aftertaste. A minus for the bitter aftertaste. A plus for balance.A nice subtle nutty note..a tiny plus. Kind of watery...a minus.

A little thin and watery in body and taste. One demensional. A minus.

Wow! All the pluses and minuses just seem to cancel each other out to leave us with muddled and bland. I think its an above average beer. Its mild and dark so they nailed that. Its also boring and bland, and watered down. Got it out of a mix pack so I'm stuck with 2 more.

I wanted to give this a good grade for a session beer, but I don't enjoy the taste enough. Its easy drinking and mild, but lacking on flavor. Too muddled and bitter. Its drinkable though and maybe others will think differently.

It lives up to its name. Its neither here nor there. I could do with or without it. Plus or minus. Whatever. Cool label and way to nail the name....another plus.

Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.55/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a US tumbler pint glass.

A: The beer is a medium brown color, with a short off-white head that fades slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma contains caramelized malts, honey, maple and a faint touch of hops.

T: The taste starts out mildly sweet with flavors of caramel, honey and maple. Then a hearty malt character comes in. The hops presence is mild but complementary and brings a decent balance. The after-taste is slightly bready and slightly sweet.

M: Crisp and smooth, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

O: Tasty, goes down easily, not too filling, very mild kick, good representation of style, this is a solid sessionable beer to drink for a while.

Photo of zac16125
3.41/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into a British pint glass
No born on date or other distinguishing numbers

A: Pours a translucent mahogany with a reddish hue and 2.5 fingers width of sea foam white head, which takes a fair amount of time to dissipate down to a thin film with thick outer ring which remains throughout the drink and leaves only trace spotty lacing.  

S: Slight citrus, bread, generic yeast, a toasted nut character and a hint of spice,  Not a bad aroma but what is there is mild and  subtle and thus this is pretty bland.

T: Taste is better than the nose.  The toasted nut character is prominent and quite good.  I also get a subtle roast flavor, some caramel malts, and a bit of spicy hops.  Nothing terribly complex, but I enjoy the taste, and it's actually not as mild as I was anticipating.  

M/D: Pretty heavily carbonated, light to medium bodied.  Drinkability is high.  

O: This is, to my knowledge, my first exposure to an English Mild, so its hard to compare to style.  However, my overall impression is a sessionable brew with an aroma that is kind of blah, but a taste which is actually rather nice.  I won't seek it out again (or the style in general for that matter), but I'll have no issue finishing the last bottle that's in my fridge.  

Photo of jjchristiano
3.28/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

It looks like a nice dark malt beer.
But there just isn't much taste in the bottle.
Not sure if +/- means = 0 is the math they were shooting for. I really can't say it is bad. You could drink them fine but it just isn't worth buying craft beer for this little flavor. Almost tastes like an unhopped homebrew kit made exclusively from liquid malt extract.

Photo of Chickenhawk9932
3.45/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a rich mahogany with a tan head that quickly dissipates.

Has a floral, nutty aroma with a hint a caramel and a touch of chocolate.

Slight citrus bite of hops up front followed by a roasted nut flavor with a bready mouthfeel that quickly gives way to a flat fruit flavor- plum. There is a touch of chocolate in the back of the mouth. A solid beer, very interesting with lots of subtlety.

Photo of ChrisPratz
3.03/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A: Deep rich brown/mahogany color. Very little head and no lacing remains after the pour. No bubbles around the edge either, slightly disappointed.

S: Getting some coffee, roasted malt and toasted grains coming thru. Some nuttyness and a hint of earthy smells coming thru as well but they aren't very strong.

T: Initially tasting coffee. Very much like the scent of a used coffee filter. Not very strong. Mild milk chocolate and some roasted nut flavors coming thru. Still picking up some earthy notes as well with some grains. All of it is very mild though, nothing here is really standing out strong or overly robust.

M: Carbonation is on par with soda. No head lingering around, keeps everything crisp and clean on the tongue. Can't really feel any alcohol in it either.

O: Nothing about this really stood out. From the lack of lace and head, to the mild notes on the nose and the very mild taste, I wasn't really impressed by any part of this brew.

Photo of vicsju1991
3.76/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle poured into duvel snifter
A - looks exactly like coke
S - nice malty blend, a bit oh hops
T - follows the nose, malty deliciousness with a light bitter aftertaste
M - very crisp and drinkable
O - very good session beer, probably my favourite magic hat beer

Photo of FickleBeast
3.65/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle poured into a pint glass. Part of the most recent Magic Hat mixed 12 pack.

Pours a very dark amber color with a finger of foam that recedes without lacing. Aroma is mostly crystal malt sweetness.

First sip has an initial rush of nutty sweetness that quickly cuts out with a dry finish. Has a bit of a metallic aftertaste.

Lacking some complexity. Has a nice sweet flavor up front but quickly drops off and not much else takes its place. I guess it pretty much fits the bill for a Mild Ale, but it is not something I'd go out of my way to get.

Photo of Apellonious
3.25/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A- Dark brown, ruby highlights, thin lace with no hang that disappears after a few sips.

S - Chocolate, faint hint of smoke.

T - Chocolate malts, some roasted grains, slight bitterness on back of tongue, not much else is present.

M - Slightly watery, carbonation is decent though low.

O - Overall it is drinkable, though unremarkable. It characteristics appear to be representative of the style, so its worth a try.

Photo of BEERMILER12
3.5/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a nice orange-red color with almost no head that fizzles to nothing in seconds

S: Some malts, MH yeast, and honestly not much else. Mild indeed

T: Follows the nose, with malts and slight smoke in the finish. Again, very mild

M: Medium bodied with moderate carbonation

O: A dumbed-down version of a classic style. Can't say that too many times about American brewers when they brew classic English styles, but it certainly applies here. Still worth a try, though

Photo of chefhatt
3.7/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This beers pours a dark copper color body with a small head that doesnt' hang around long. The smell has a nice inviting malt characters to it. The taste upfront has nice maltness then on the back of the tonuge after it has warmed up a little bit then comes some chocolate and roasted malt flavors with a nice hop presence but not over powering. The mouthfeel is good and overall a pretty good beer.

Photo of VelvetExtract
3.68/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-Pours a barely murky brown color. Reasonably dark. Head is nearly nothing. More or less just a patch of thin foam. Lacing shows up on the glass as light rings.

S-Very nutty. Almond, walnut, and hazelnut. Light chocolate aroma. Hops are not detectable. Small traces of coffee too. Not intense, but I do enjoy the nuttiness.

T-Chocolate is stressed here over the nuts. Still, the nutty medley does envelope my taste buds after the chocolate. Light leafy hop waft on the finish. Nicely malty but it does leave more to be desired.

M-Very light. Watery to a degree. Medium carbonation. Sessionable. I enjoy the light body.

O/D-Like most Magic Hat brews, this one has its bright spots but is mostly lackluster. I had no true complaints about this beer but it was pretty bland. I will easily finish the glass and will also give kudos to Magic Hat for trying to brew some of the lesser utilized styles such as this.

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Plus / Minus from Magic Hat Brewing Company
78 out of 100 based on 123 ratings.