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Short's Nicie Spicie - Short's Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
81
good

416 Ratings
THE BROS
89
very good

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Ratings: 416
Reviews: 151
rAvg: 3.59
pDev: 16.99%
Wants: 22
Gots: 40 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Short's Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Herbed / Spiced Beer |  5.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Mitchster on 06-14-2004

Northern Michigan spiced wheat ale. A 50% mixture of premium two-row malted barley and malted white wheat makes golden wheat ale balanced with Ahtanum and Cascade hop varieties. This ale is spiced with fresh zest of lemon and orange rind, coriander, and black peppercorns 
17.5 I.B.U.’s
2.8 deg. Plato
5.2% A.B.V.
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Ratings: 416 | Reviews: 151
Reviews by drizzam:
Photo of drizzam
3.97/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - The body is a cloudy yellow/gold in color, topped by a half finger white head. Some small particulate hanging in suspension. Head retention wasn't that phenomenal but some slight spotty lacing was left down the inside of the glass.

S - Wheat with some slight apple aroma. Just a bit of pepper as well as some ginger presents itself as it warms a bit.

T & M - The wheat body carries nice accenting flavors of orange rind, lemon zest and pepper. The pepper comes across a bit stronger at the end right before the swallow, then follows after the swallow. A nice complexity here. Medium bodied with that same peppery aftertaste.

D - A very well done beer by Shorts. I'm usually not a fan of so much pepper as a spice in my brew, but the sweetness of the citrus seems to tame that a bit. Very nice...glad my friends thought of me and brought this to me. A certain recommendation to my other friends.

More User Reviews:
Photo of oberon
3.47/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

On tap at Ashley's in Ann Arbor,I saw the description of this beer and thought it interesting and gav it a try.Poured a very pale yellow with smaller white head, a wheat ale spiced with peppercorns and that is for sure aromas of lemond rind and heavy on the cracked black pepper.I found it a bit watery so it lost my attention after a few drinks,very zesty upfront with big lemon and coriander notes with that black pepper hitting quite hard thru the finish and lingering.A very interesting beer in concept just not my thing I suppose.

Photo of tectactoe
2.67/5  rDev -25.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a deep golden, nearly amber color with a pretty wispy, white head that recedes pretty quickly to a small outline of the glass. The aroma is... different, to say the least. At first, it's like mixing together a bunch of random spices off the rack and taking a big whiff. Upon settling down and taking repeated sniffs, some clarity begins to form - peppercorns are the heaviest spice, as expected, because that's how it's advertised. Nutmeg? Maybe. It's hard to tell. Coriander? Definitely, but it's not very strong. There are some other ashy, leafy spices lingering around, may just be a product of ingredient clashing. Intense fruity, sweetness spikes hit the nose as well, bittersweet orange rinds and a peppery lemon zest, almost in a wood-polish, Pledge kind of way. Certainly stings the nostrils.

The taste is full of many things. Oranges? They're there. Lemon zest? Big time, again, taking on an almost too-strong, cleanser profile. Coriander? Yeah, certainly in the backdrop. Hops? Sure. A present leafiness hangs around, almost on the herbal side, along with a slight pungent, citrusy-pith character. Malt? Of course. Nice malty background, slightly toasted with a nice bread character and some light caramel even (very light, however). BUT - none of these flavors are any match for the peppercorns. My GOD, the pepper is strong in this one. It's like sucking on a pepper mill. Strong and overpowering, to the point of tickling the back of the throat. I like pepper. But not this much, and it certainly doesn't belong in a beer. Medium body, medium-high carbonation.

As always, Shorts is trying something out-of-the-box, which I love. This is one of the few that miss the mark for me... Surprising, since I enjoy the peppercorn additions in Anniversary Ale. It was just a touch overdone in this brew. I'd like to give the next batch a go, and perhaps the balance will be there.

Photo of TCHopCraver
3.38/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Reviewed from notes made on 10/24/10.

A: Pours a fairly clear gold with a slight amber hue into a medium sized snifter. An off-white half finger head burns off to leave a swirly film on top. Tiny carbonation bubbles move quickly from bottom to top of the glass. The lacing is a bit dull with long thick curves and big dots.

S: Nicie is heavy on the peppercorn with a healthy odes of the orange and lemon zest in my nose. I detect a little wheat and a bit of a bread backbone.

T: The citrus zest flavors steal the limelight with the peppercorn and coriander bleding into the citrus taste. The wheat beer base is present in the taste profile, but it definitely takes a backseat to the adjuncts. The taste is also pretty watery.

M: The mouthfeel is a bit thin. The body of the beer feels very light, and the peppercorn sparkles a little on my palate, but it really doesn't pop as much as I thought it might.

D: Is Nicie easy to drink? Yes. But it interesting enough to explore more? For my tastes, probably not.

Photo of nickadams2
3.97/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A_Hazy golden yellow with a thin white head. Not much lacing.

S_Citrus,peppercorns and coriander

T_Coriander and peppercorns upfront. Lemon zest and orange zest also come through.Very flavorful.

M_Thin and crisp. Refreshing.

D_Easily a good session beer. Perfect in hot weather.

Photo of warnerry
4/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Notes from 8/11/10

Pours a cloudy golden brown with relatively little, quickly dissipating head.

Huge aroma of pepper and coriander, with faint hints of citrus zest.

The amount of pepper in the nose had me worried, but I'm loving it in the taste. As with the smell, pepper and coriander dominate, with the citrus zest more apparent than in the smell. Nice Belgian style spicing with a bit of wheat taste coming through.

Crisp light mouthfeel with the pepper tingling the tongue.

Very drinkable, even with the spiciness.

Photo of Beaver13
1.94/5  rDev -46%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

12oz bottle. Pours a clear yellow gold with a smallish white head that quickly diminishes to a thin film.

The aroma is wheaty malt, lemon and some perfumey soap.

The flavor is a bit odd - kind of a medicinal fruity disinfectant. The mouthfeel is light to medium bodied.

Overall, I didn't care for this. It tasted more like something I should clean my house with instead of beer.

Photo of SAxDRC5
2.82/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

A- golden yellow color. Tiny head (that's what she said?), no lacing.

S- Citrus and coriander. Maybe a hint of peppercorn

T- Tastes alot like it smelled. The citrus, I think, is Bergamot orange, the same fruit used in Earl Grey tea. Finishes with a spicy peppercorn flavor. Kinda tastes like a wheat beer...maybe? This beer actually reminds me a lot of earl grey.

M- Thin, not as carbonated as I would expect.

D- Not my thing. I finished one, mostly because I didn't want to waste it; there are sober kids in India.

Photo of Jason
3.99/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the Hop Cat in Grand Rapids, MI.

Minimal white lacing and hazy as hell with a muddled orange beige color. Aroma of orange seltzer, fresh ground pepper corn, dough biscuit and a citric hop. Good smooth and crisp medium body with a creamy slick mouth feel. Orange on top with peppercorn and pepper heat within. The heat of the peppercorn grows with each sip but never reaches a hot level ... just a lovely spicy flavor. A bit of bread wheat and nuttiness form the yeast middle to end. Finishes with a long linger of peppercorn, semi dry.

Pretty amazing stuff here, extreme all the way. I dig peppercorn and it works in the beer so it does stay drinkable for me. This beer must be amazing to cook with as well.

Photo of Franziskaner
3.7/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Light golden colored with a light bit of foam that only covers a quarter of the top of the beer. Lively carbonation bubbles. I get the aroma of coriander and orange peel. The coriander aroma and flavor,while dominant do not overwhelm as some beers are apt to do. Front of the palate is wheat and then you get a burst of orange peel and coriander. Interestingly I get a bit of mild heat from the peppercorns in the aftermath. The mouthfeel is refreshing,but the heat at the end beckons further sips. Not your typical wheat!

Photo of glid02
3.68/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap.

Pours a hazy golden color with a one-finger bright white head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving decent lacing.

Smells of muted light malts with moderate amounts of a combination of spices - white pepper, nutmeg, and coriander. Also present are mild amounts of wheat twang and floral hops that intensify as the beer warms.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Light malt flavors with mild amounts of wheat twang kick things off. Joining in shortly thereafter are muted spices - coriander mostly but with hints of clove and spicy hops. The spices fade out allowing the malt and wheat flavors to carry through to a mildly bitter ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a nice thickness with moderate carbonation.

Drinkability is also good. I had no problems finishing my glass and could have another.

Overall this was a good enough beer but all of the flavors seemed somewhat muted. Not worth seeking out but not worth avoiding either.

Photo of Brenden
3.81/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

This "outside-the-lines" beer from Short's is a heavy and murky orange, on the darker side, with a heavily tinted head that reaches just undera finger's height. Retention is fair, as is the quantity of spotty lacing left behind.
There's a lot going on in the aroma, and I can't deny its intrigue. Spicy for sure but not too hot and as much peppery as anything, it's also got lots of lemon but also lots of sweet citrus. Malts are biscuity but a little more raw than the typical dry biscuit.
The flavor, especially when unsure what to expect, comes together very well. The wheat base is evident and makes for a softer flavor that's easier to lay the spices down on, and works best with all the citrus. Peppery heat builds but never burns too hot, keeping up at a good level from beginning to end.
While creamy and crisp in a soft but about medium body, there is a little slickness in the back of the mouth.

Photo of mdaschaf
3.7/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a slightly hazy golden color with a one finger white head with decent retention, reducing to bits of foam on top within a few minutes. Nice, but thin lacing.

S: Quite aromatic, the peppercorns are very strong. Underneath that, there is a bit of lemon as well, but not much else comes through over the peppercorns. Reminds me of the bloody beer in a way, but better.

T: Fortunately, the peppercorns do not come through as strongly on the flavor profile. The citrus comes through a lot more with some lemon, lemon peel, and orange.

M: Medium bodied with a nice level of carbonation. Has a slight heat to it from the peppercorns.

O: An interesting beer, wouldn't expect anything different from Shorts. Wish the aroma was more balanced like the flavor profile was. The peppercorns were just a bit overpowering.

Photo of GilGarp
4.07/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle served chilled into a pint glass.

Nicie Spicie is a slightly hazy golden yellow color. The white head is thick at first but settles quickly to a creamy skim layer on top.

Aroma is really interesting and enjoyable. The citrus zest, coriander and pepper really come through strong here. It's well judged though so everything is in balance.

The flavor is impressive as well. This is a beer unlike any other I've had. Intense lemon and orange flavor up front, some honey-like sweetness, then a bitter punch towards the middle, and it finishes herbal, spicy, and tart.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and complex with pretty much every taste bud in your mouth experiencing something all in one sip.

This is the second one I've had from this sixer (the first was about a week ago) and I'm glad I didn't review it then. This is a beer that gets better with experience.

A wildly unusual and interesting beer to enjoy. Seek this one out if you're into the style.

Photo of Sammy
3.77/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Enjoyed at the brewpub on tap. Peppercorn, corriander, lemon, oranhe, spiced wheat. Medium mouthfeel. Light colour and very lacey. Served closer to room temperature and drinkable. From this spicy beer, this is above average for the style. Nicely done although I would not drink this every day.

Photo of GDBEERMAN
3.59/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into Bruges tulip.
A: Pours a big and bold hazy yellow body, with very low head formation and retention. Low level of carbonation for the style.

S: Up front, bold aroma of dank weed. Medium intensity and a very smooth and mellow character.

TM: Very nice blend of lemon and citrus. Hop bitterness is low but flavor is high. The mouthfeel is very low on carbonation level and that of lingering character is very low. Slight spice on the finish.

O: A nice spiced wheat, would like to see a bit more spice, but very well balanced. The aroma is the showcase of the beer.

Photo of SpeedwayJim
3.07/5  rDev -14.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz. bottle poured into a Lawson's pint glass.

Standard pour yields a quickly dissipating coarse, 1 finger white head. Beer is a clear pale orange. Lacing is non existant. Not a very good looking beer.

Nose is big citrus, lemon, and sweet peach notes. Very fruity upfront and quite enticing. Like an imitation orange juice drink with some pepper mixed in. Nice but a bit awkward.

Opens citrus and lemon. Like tang (the orange drink). Sweet with some odd spiciness coming in at the middle from the peppercorns. Spicy and yeasty at the end. Finish is pepper and fruit juice. Sweet and a touch coarse aftertaste. If the peppercorns weren't in this beer, it'd score much better.

Light bodied and well carbonated. Lively and bubbly in the mouth and abrasive and spicy going down. Finish is messy with a clean aftertaste. Standard.

I'm giving this an above average overall although all my other scores are just at average because this one has a lot of potential. A very easy drinking beer if only the peppercorns would fade out a bit. An offering that just had one too many ingredients in my opinion.

Photo of prototypic
3.5/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Nicie Spicie pours a lighter gold color. It’s a tad hazy. Looks to have an orange tint when held to light. It’s topped with a rather modest, white head. It only rises to about a finger before falling quickly. Lacing was definitely on the lighter side.

The nose is alright. It’s definitely weak and would benefit from more strength. It starts out with a grainy, earthy scent. It’s a little fruity and spicy. I’m definitely getting light lemon and orange. Coriander and pepper are easily noted. There’s an herbal quality to it that I can’t quite put my finger on. Hops are noted and definitely smell grassy. Noble hops? Perhaps. Alcohol is buried.

The flavor is consistent with the nose. It’s very earthy and grainy throughout. Pretty typical for an American wheat. Fruit flavors of lemon and orange are subtle, but effective. It’s definitely spicy, featuring pretty strong pepper and coriander flavors. Frankly, they taste a tad too strong. Hops are grassy and earthy. Tastes like noble hops to me. They add a slight bitter kick. It is a bit herbal. Honestly, it tastes like tea. Alcohol isn’t a factor at all. Finishes earthy and herbal.

Nicie Spicie has a light body that’s consistent with the style. Carbonation is mid-range, but has a slight crisp bite to it. It’s nice and refreshing. It definitely is easy drinking. I could definitely take down two or three of these, especially in warmer weather.

I’m a big fan of Short’s Brewing Company. Nicie Spicie is far from their best beer, but it isn’t bad at all. If it has any faults, it’s a bit too spicy and herbal. This is definitely a case where less would be more. It’s still a refreshing, enjoyable beer. Definitely worth checking out.

Photo of Kegatron
3.65/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle into a pint glass.

Pours a clear gold, with a ½ finger of creamy bright-white head. This retains with a thin frothiness that hangs sudsy foam down the sides of the glass. The aroma smells of spice, lemon, and wheat. The fruit in particular really gives this a refreshing feel in the nose.

The taste has crisp tartness to it from those wheat and lemon flavors, with various spices that are sprinkled throughout. That tartness really picks up as this warms. The mouthfeel is medium bodied and sharp feeling on the tongue with a prickly carbonation that blows up a bit along the back of the palate.

While I didn’t find this super complex or anything, I did really appreciate the super refreshing and easy drinking feel here from that combination of wheat, fruit, and complimentary spices. I’d go for another bottle of this.

Photo of nortmand
4.8/5  rDev +33.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Slightly cloudy straw yellow pour with a strong white head.

Very herbal smell, peppery and citrusy. Very balanced and intriguing.

Flavor is dominated by coriander, complex citrus and pepper. The peppery flavor is absolutely insane! It creates a borderline spiciness that lingers on the palate for a long time. Very subtle, gradually increasing as the flavor accumulates on the tongue. Truly unique and unforgettable.

Medium bodied and very refreshing, spicy and drinkable. No beer has ever matched pizza quite so well.

Photo of Vonerichs
3.92/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The color is a murky and drab orangish brown. It has tall but thinly packed white head.

The scent is quite extreme and can be summed up by reading the bottle. The orange and lemon zest are in your face with a heavy punch of peppercorn spice.

The taste is full of yeast, orange, and light lemon. The aftertaste is loaded with peppery spice.

Mouthfeel is slick like soap.

This was a pretty fun beer and the flavor is interesting.

Photo of stouty1
4.07/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a Growler into my new Sam's Adams glass. White frothy head and apple juice color. Smells of orange and lemon.
Orange, coriander, and a peppery finish all blend together with a zesty refreshing drink. Very complex how they fit all that fruity refreshing drink into one spicey, bite the tongue finish.

Photo of marcobrau
4.42/5  rDev +23.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A remarkably quaffable and tasty spiced ale with peppery aroma and hot finish. What's found inbetween is mixture of hops and malt with lemon-orangey spices mixed in with a wheaty maltiness. A soft mouthfeel and light to medium body. This beer pours a slightly hazy yellow off the tap. The black pepper in this beer is perfectly done -- not too hot or spicy -- just enough heat to make things interesting and not ruin the drinkability of this wonderful ale. An excellente summertime beer which has inspired a homebrewed creation of my own in a similar vein.

On tap at Butch's Dry Dock in Holland, Mich.

Photo of Ruds
3.15/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a tulip glass to a hazy gold colour with a thinnish white head.

Smells of orange peel/zest, other hints of citrus and some peppercorn, corriander and a pinch of other 'unidentifiable' herbs!

Flavour wise a sour orange and to a lesser extent lemon dominates the mouth allied to background flavours of wheat and moderate spice. Also get the peppercorns again particularly in the finish however there was also a background 'sweetness' to the beer which I don't think overly helped the balance of flavours!

Mouthfeel was light to medium in body, perhaps a little too thin and watery?

Overall not impressed. Not a particularly well balanced beer and a little thin.

Slightly 'spicie' but not so 'nicie' - they must have set themselves up for a review along those lines and I'm sure I'm not the first to quote that and I won't be the last!

Would not seek out this beer in any way shape or form in the future. I would imagine the only likelihood of me drinking again would be on a hot summers day as I guess it has 'refreshment' potential in such conditions, but someone would have to give me a bottle!

Photo of alleykatking
4.07/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 12oz bottle. Thanks to VinnieVanGogh for picking this up for me.

A- Pours a light hazed golden yellow color. Hard pour gives a one finger white head that shows poor retention. Some light streaks of lace on the sides of the glass.

S- The front of the aroma is mostly coriander, lemon, and orange. Wheat notes come through as the underbody. Ending of the aroma is light malts, pepper, and hints of alcohol. A very nice smelling beer with a touch of Short's to it.

T- Front of the beer is mostly citrus forward with the orange and lemon that slowly gets a spicing added to it with pepper and coriander. The middle of the beer showcases the wheat with a hint of bready malt as well. This wheat flavor goes to the ending of the beer with a last hint of citrus notes, light alcohol, and a balancing of spicey hops to end it out.

M- Light mouthfeel. Carbonation is a little light but not as much as other Short's beers. Citrus, pepper, and wheat are left on the palate. Aftertaste is sweet alcohol mixed with wheat, pepper, and hints of coriander. Light alcohol drying on the palate. Flavors were a little wheat forward until the hops in the backing balanced the beer out. No off flavors were present when I was drinking this beer.

D- The drinkability of this beer is good. A nice summertime beer that is a little spice forward but still not over the top. The ABV isn't too high which means a sixer can be easy to drink.

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Short's Nicie Spicie from Short's Brewing Company
81 out of 100 based on 416 ratings.