Short's Nicie Spicie - Short's Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
81
good

424 Ratings
THE BROS
89
very good

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Ratings: 424
Reviews: 155
rAvg: 3.59
pDev: 16.99%
Wants: 22
Gots: 44 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Short's Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Herbed / Spiced Beer |  5.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Mitchster on 06-14-2004

Northern Michigan spiced wheat ale. A 50% mixture of premium two-row malted barley and malted white wheat makes golden wheat ale balanced with Ahtanum and Cascade hop varieties. This ale is spiced with fresh zest of lemon and orange rind, coriander, and black peppercorns 
17.5 I.B.U.’s
2.8 deg. Plato
5.2% A.B.V.
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Ratings: 424 | Reviews: 155
Photo of mangounchained
1/5  rDev -72.1%

This beer tastes like the moment you realize Santa Claus isn't real.

Photo of ferndave
1.75/5  rDev -51.3%

Label sounded like a delicious summer brew. Could only taste peppercorns. So much peppercorn.

Photo of Beaver13
1.94/5  rDev -46%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

12oz bottle. Pours a clear yellow gold with a smallish white head that quickly diminishes to a thin film.

The aroma is wheaty malt, lemon and some perfumey soap.

The flavor is a bit odd - kind of a medicinal fruity disinfectant. The mouthfeel is light to medium bodied.

Overall, I didn't care for this. It tasted more like something I should clean my house with instead of beer.

Photo of ArrogantB
2.32/5  rDev -35.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Picked this up in a mixed sixer from Mondo Vino along with other Short's brews. Golden yellow color, looks just fine. Smell is really heavy spices to the point where I don't want to drink it. Perfume-like almost, just obnoxious. The flavor is like drinking potpurri and shampoo, just way too heavy on the spices. If I had bought a sixer of this I would have returned it.

Photo of Crosling
2.48/5  rDev -30.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Sampled on draught @ Short’s Brewing Company in Bellaire, Michigan. Lightly cloudy yellow color. Heavily spiced aroma, overly so, with the lemon peel and curacao standing out most, along with a light citrusy hop fragrance. Flavor is again, overly spice, with the curacao and lemon peel standing out the most in the flavor. No malt complexity with little hop and nothing but spice.

Photo of Ryan011235
2.54/5  rDev -29.2%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a glass meant for wits and such on 6/25/12

Thanks to beesy

Pale, golden yellow; faded straw tones. Some chill haze. Foam is fizzy and minimal; a 1/4th inch layer is gone in no time. No retention, no lace.

The aroma is heaviest on the orange zest, trickling down from there - lemon, clean and dusty wheat, hints of coriander. There is an earthy, herbal crackle mixed in back; I reckon that's the peppercorn talking.

It's a good thing the spices are part of the name; the nippy peppercorn and milder coriander are about the only thing this beer has going for it. Beyond the spices are notes of timid wheat and over-watered orange juice concentrate. The finish has fairly strong herbal lingerings. Dry zest bitterness emerges as the beer warms.

The feel is thin and watery. Carbonation is thin as well, lacking any bodily support. I'm inclined to call the over feel "pesky."

This one seems to be fashioned haphazardly. Not terrible, but I'm alright leaving it at one.

Photo of tectactoe
2.67/5  rDev -25.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a deep golden, nearly amber color with a pretty wispy, white head that recedes pretty quickly to a small outline of the glass. The aroma is... different, to say the least. At first, it's like mixing together a bunch of random spices off the rack and taking a big whiff. Upon settling down and taking repeated sniffs, some clarity begins to form - peppercorns are the heaviest spice, as expected, because that's how it's advertised. Nutmeg? Maybe. It's hard to tell. Coriander? Definitely, but it's not very strong. There are some other ashy, leafy spices lingering around, may just be a product of ingredient clashing. Intense fruity, sweetness spikes hit the nose as well, bittersweet orange rinds and a peppery lemon zest, almost in a wood-polish, Pledge kind of way. Certainly stings the nostrils.

The taste is full of many things. Oranges? They're there. Lemon zest? Big time, again, taking on an almost too-strong, cleanser profile. Coriander? Yeah, certainly in the backdrop. Hops? Sure. A present leafiness hangs around, almost on the herbal side, along with a slight pungent, citrusy-pith character. Malt? Of course. Nice malty background, slightly toasted with a nice bread character and some light caramel even (very light, however). BUT - none of these flavors are any match for the peppercorns. My GOD, the pepper is strong in this one. It's like sucking on a pepper mill. Strong and overpowering, to the point of tickling the back of the throat. I like pepper. But not this much, and it certainly doesn't belong in a beer. Medium body, medium-high carbonation.

As always, Shorts is trying something out-of-the-box, which I love. This is one of the few that miss the mark for me... Surprising, since I enjoy the peppercorn additions in Anniversary Ale. It was just a touch overdone in this brew. I'd like to give the next batch a go, and perhaps the balance will be there.

Photo of JamnesCameron
2.7/5  rDev -24.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

poured in a MJ tasting glass.

Pours a hazy gold with no head, whatsoever. Not even a thin whisp of foam on top. Carbonation evident with tons of tiny bubbles (Don Ho?) flowing up the side of the glass.

Aromas of citrusy hops, citrus zest (lemon and (?) orange). Has an orange Gatorade aroma.

First sip is of thin orange gatorade, chalky, like club soda. (Must be a theme tonight.) Reminds me of orange alka-seltzer. A little medicinal.

Mouthfeel is thin, a bit watery. Again, much like club soda.

Drinkability is okay. Not what I was expecting. Very strange beer. Hard to even describe it as a beer. Not sure I would seek this out again. Would not drink if this was the only beer on tap. Not that special.

Photo of womencantsail
2.74/5  rDev -23.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks again to Thorpe for this one.

A: The beer pours a light golden color with a thin white head.

S: A wonderful cleaning fluid aroma. Intense lemon and orange peel, maybe a bit of perfume. The pepper corn aroma is quite intense, too. Not very much coriander aroma.

T: As with the aroma, intense lemon peel aroma with the orange more in the background. As with the aroma, there is quite a bit of peppercorn character and very little coriander. Sort of watery.

M: Light bodied with low to medium carbonation.

O: Just too much cleaning solution.

Photo of silentjay
2.76/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

looks like a decent saison. slightly hazy straw color with a decent sized almost white head that recedes quickly, but leaves epic lacing.

hmmm. definitely spicy. peppercorns (white, and black) are quite apparent, with some herbal qualities.

lemon rind with peppercorns and dried herbs with some slightly toasted wheat bread and some sour and bitter citrus.

light/medium bodied with a prickly carbonation and a peppery finish, and an odd herb quality that does not leave the palate.

my least favorite Shorts beer so far. just not for me. Not sure Ill be getting this one again.

Photo of SAxDRC5
2.82/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

A- golden yellow color. Tiny head (that's what she said?), no lacing.

S- Citrus and coriander. Maybe a hint of peppercorn

T- Tastes alot like it smelled. The citrus, I think, is Bergamot orange, the same fruit used in Earl Grey tea. Finishes with a spicy peppercorn flavor. Kinda tastes like a wheat beer...maybe? This beer actually reminds me a lot of earl grey.

M- Thin, not as carbonated as I would expect.

D- Not my thing. I finished one, mostly because I didn't want to waste it; there are sober kids in India.

Photo of glazeman
2.84/5  rDev -20.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

12 ounce bottle into a snifter

A: Golden straw color with a ½ finger white head. Not all that good of head retention, and not that good of lacing

S: Lemons and wheat are the dominant smells of this beer. Refreshing smell, though nothing special.

T: So, this is definitely a flavorful beer, the problem is that the flavors are a bit overwhelming, not that cohesive and not that refreshing. Take something like a Hacker-Pschor Weisse (spelling) and distill it down a bit to concentrate some of the flavors and that is what this is like. The problem is that Hacker is much better than this just the way it is. The main flavors in this are orange, lemon, and a bit of pepper at the finish.

M: About average for a wheat beer. Perhaps a bit under-carbonated for my liking though.

D: Not as good of drinkability as your average wheat beer. I would rather have something else if I was in the mood for a wheat beer on a hot summer day.

Photo of GONZALOYANNA
2.85/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

330ml bottle.Tulip glass.Enjoyed on may´11.Golden color.Clear appearance.Brief crown, white in color.Mildy malty,orange zest & subtle peppery aromas.Dry bitter & lemony at first sip.Orange & slightly sweet fruit flavor.Light body,low carbonation.Coriander & hoppy bitterness on the aftertaste.Well balanced beer but quite bland eventhough.

Photo of scotorum
2.85/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

a: Shared with threee others. My three ounces poured into an amber juiice glass which may have distorted the color. Appeared a deep orange with a half finger head.

s: Mildly citrus.

t: Citrus at first, but then the pepper registers and overwhelms, leaving a burning sensation in the back of the throat.

m: Medium with notable carbonation, but that pepper blast keeps any enjoyment from sipping at a minimum.

o: Interesting concept: a beer that is so spicy hot it makes you want to drink more beer, but it does not help. After that, the Curious Traveler Shandy I tried, a style I usually do not like, was a welcome relief.

Give Shorts credit for something unusual and creative. Might appeal to those who like spicy spicy and more spicy. But for me it was not nicie.

Photo of iadler
2.89/5  rDev -19.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Roommate brought back a growler from the brewery. Poured into a tulip glass.

A- Clear gold with a small white head. Leaves tiny lacing.

S- One of the most pungent beers I've smelled. Peppercorns, lemon zest, orange zest, bready malt, coriander, and other spices. I could smell this quite a few feet away from the glass.

T- Some spiciness upfront from the peppercorns followed by some citrus notes including lemon and orange zest, coriander and sweet bready malt follow after.

M- Light carbonation and light body with a slightly sweet finish. A tad crisp but the high spice profile prevents it from being too drinkable for my taste.

O- One of the most interesting beers I've tried in recent memory. The smell was pretty complex, but the spice level prevented me from being able to drink more than a small pour of this. Glad I tried it, but not really my kind of brew.

Photo of maximum12
2.95/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Thanks, yet again, to malty as I work my happy way through all of the Short's that's piled up in the fridge & cellar. Reading the ingredients & spicing in this one, I'm anticipating 100% bliss or a fragrant train wreck.

Pours like an old Shasta Cream Soda, cream y orange. The smell is a wheat ale that's been hollowed out & stuff with a handful of Christmas spices; I'd like to say I can pick them out individually, but no. Just smells like a full spice rack.

Nicie Spicie comes out of the gates like a wheat beer, grassy, waving, probably seeded out on top. Then the wave of spice obliterates the hint of light prairie. The peppercorns crest the tsunami, & do a number on whatever follows, muddling up the balance of the spicing into a muddy Christmas pie of overkill. Coriander eventually pops its head up briefly.

Well. This is a one-and-done for me. Appropriate to Christmas time, perhaps this should be repackaged as one of the hundreds of YuleTime brews that seem to appear each year in Nov-Dec. This beer, well, I'm not a fan. The spicing is harsh & biting, where I prefer subtlety, & the wheat beer underneath is just about completely lost in the madness. Worth a try, but doesn't rise above the pack of spiced beers on steroids.

Photo of LiquidBread219
3/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - Pours a fairly clear golden color with a thin finger of frothy white head. The head fades down fairly to a ring around the glass leaving behind a touch of lace.

S - I thought the nose was rather weak. There wasn't a lot that came out you do get some spices in there with a lot bit bit of citrus but like I said they didn't stand out and you really had to dig to get that out of this beer. I also did detect the peppercorns used in this one also but there is a lot going on in the nose of this beer it's kind of hard to pick something that stands out. IMO it just had a weak nose.

T - I thought the beer started off kind of on the citrus side which was kind of surprising because I thought it would be more spices. In the middle of the beer is where the spices and peppercorns come out and play. It was nice just wish it would have been more spiced that's all.

M - Light bodied with lots of carbonation. Smooth with a tart and spiced finish.

D - Easy to drink but don't think I would want a lot of this just because it's not my style and like I said before I thought there would be more spices. Glad I got to try but wouldn't buy a whole six pack of this would just put a bottle in a mixed six pack or something like that.

Photo of SpeedwayJim
3.07/5  rDev -14.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz. bottle poured into a Lawson's pint glass.

Standard pour yields a quickly dissipating coarse, 1 finger white head. Beer is a clear pale orange. Lacing is non existant. Not a very good looking beer.

Nose is big citrus, lemon, and sweet peach notes. Very fruity upfront and quite enticing. Like an imitation orange juice drink with some pepper mixed in. Nice but a bit awkward.

Opens citrus and lemon. Like tang (the orange drink). Sweet with some odd spiciness coming in at the middle from the peppercorns. Spicy and yeasty at the end. Finish is pepper and fruit juice. Sweet and a touch coarse aftertaste. If the peppercorns weren't in this beer, it'd score much better.

Light bodied and well carbonated. Lively and bubbly in the mouth and abrasive and spicy going down. Finish is messy with a clean aftertaste. Standard.

I'm giving this an above average overall although all my other scores are just at average because this one has a lot of potential. A very easy drinking beer if only the peppercorns would fade out a bit. An offering that just had one too many ingredients in my opinion.

Photo of Thorpe429
3.08/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours a medium brown with an off white head. Smell is initially quite odd; there's just so much going on and I'm not sure it really all fits together that well. The spices are together a nice touch, but I think the peppercorns get to be a bit of overkill. The hops are nice, though, and lend a nice touch in the flavor as well. The spices are a bit excessive there, and I find the pepper to be distracting (not nearly as good as it was in the Anniversary Ale 2009). Mouthfeel is a bit dry and spicy, and drinkability is really affected by all these factors.

Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.12/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Acquired from tburkhart, courtesy of the Under 100 IV BIF so a big "Thank You" goes out to him. Poured from a 12oz bottle into a US tumbler pint glass.

A: The beer is a light cloudy gold color, with a very thin white head that fades very quickly and leaves very little lace on the glass.

S: The aroma contains coriander, lemon, orange, pepper, light malts, wheat and a touch of hops.

T: The taste starts out with sweet citrus flavors of lemon and orange followed by spicy flavors of coriander and pepper. Then some mild bready flavors come in from wheat and a thin malt character. The hops presence is faint but provides some balance. The after-taste is slightly sweet.

M: A little smooth and a little crisp but kind of watery, light body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

D: Flavorful, goes down ok, not too filling, mild kick, decent representation of style, this beer is exactly what it claims to but there are several others like it that are better.

Photo of kevanb
3.12/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12oz bottle poured into a Jester King Zwanze Day Tumbler.


The beer pours an extremely clear and crisp golden color, light straw hues with many bubbles dancing in the glass. A thin, fizzy, unsubstantial white head appears, about a half finger high with a vigorous pour that vanishes quickly and leaves no film or lace. The aroma is zippy, plenty of coriander and pepper, light pale wheat with some citrus zest, probably the best attribute of the beer, comes off and interesting and engaging, makes me think of both an American pale wheat ale and also a Belgian witbier, but with some pizzazz. The flavors though, are a bit too abrasive, sharp peppercorn, tangy and acidic citrus zest, light coriander, pale grain and some unwanted saltiness. It's a bit all over the place, could use some toning down and some better integration. The mouthfeel is sharp, crisp and prickly, plenty of carbonation in this beer but it's also a bit thin and finishes very sharply with light dryness.


Verdict: Not my favorite beer from Short's at all, almost a Gose blended with a Witbier blended with a pale wheat ale at times, too much going on and perhaps too many adjuncts for such a simple base beer. The base can't stand up for itself amidst the scrum for attention with all the adjuncts and in the end, it's just too wacky and bizarre to work.

Photo of Spider889
3.13/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

A - Great clarity. Golden color with a short tight white head.

S - Thyme and some sage type aromas. Someone had also mentioned Fruity Pebbles - I can sort of see that.

T - Definitely spicy, crushed white pepper and overall just very herbal, this is a spice rack beer.

M/O - Dry and smooth. Not bad for what it is (a wheat, spice beer). But I wasn't a very big fan.

Photo of Ruds
3.15/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a tulip glass to a hazy gold colour with a thinnish white head.

Smells of orange peel/zest, other hints of citrus and some peppercorn, corriander and a pinch of other 'unidentifiable' herbs!

Flavour wise a sour orange and to a lesser extent lemon dominates the mouth allied to background flavours of wheat and moderate spice. Also get the peppercorns again particularly in the finish however there was also a background 'sweetness' to the beer which I don't think overly helped the balance of flavours!

Mouthfeel was light to medium in body, perhaps a little too thin and watery?

Overall not impressed. Not a particularly well balanced beer and a little thin.

Slightly 'spicie' but not so 'nicie' - they must have set themselves up for a review along those lines and I'm sure I'm not the first to quote that and I won't be the last!

Would not seek out this beer in any way shape or form in the future. I would imagine the only likelihood of me drinking again would be on a hot summers day as I guess it has 'refreshment' potential in such conditions, but someone would have to give me a bottle!

Photo of Mebuzzard
3.15/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Glad to see this one in Denver, I have always wanted to try it.

Pours a dull, slightly hazy orange/yellow/gold color. Head is about 1 finger, white with medium size bubbles. Slick, almost no lacing.

Spiced aroma, but more so from the zests of orange and lemon. The peppercorn is well hidden. Floral. Soft bread is underneath.

Orange zest is prominent here. Lemon is next. There's a bit of rind in there, like they cut too deep in the orange skin and got the white part. Kind of like tannin without the pucker. Peppercorn is absent, too bad. I would like to see more carbonation to lift up the zests, because they seem syrupy to me on the end. I think that would have helped big time imho.

Photo of ahq514
3.15/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from 12 oz bottle into shaker.

Pours a crisp golden color with almost no head. Many bubbles rising to the surface, indicates a decent amount of carbonation.

Aroma is mainly of citrus, lots of oranges with a dash of lemons thrown in. Wheat, coriander are in the mix as well. Smells similar to a wit, but without that belgian yeast addition and more lemon aroma.

Interesting beer. Citrus I feel is a little more subdued in the taste than from the aroma. Wheat and coriander seem to hit first, quickly followed up by a slightly tart citrus taste. What makes it interesting is the finish. Spicy peppercorns come through and really dry out the finish. Not really a huge fan of that part. Too much pepper for me.

Mouthfeel is alright. A decent amount of carbonation. A little thinner than I would have hoped for. Not a fan of the dryness factor from the peppercorns.

Overall this beer is just ok for me. Love the start, but really don't like that peppercorn finish. I really appreciate Shorts though because they try a lot of different stuff than other brewers do. Not sure how much of this beer I could have though. Definitely worth trying once though.

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Short's Nicie Spicie from Short's Brewing Company
81 out of 100 based on 424 ratings.