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Short's Pandemonium Pale Ale - Short's Brewing Company

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Reviews: 228
Hads: 534
rAvg: 3.65
pDev: 12.88%
Wants: 14
Gots: 56 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Short's Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Pale Ale (APA) |  5.40% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 09-19-2004

This blessed, coppered colored ale lends it’s hue to hearty pale ale malts and hand selected specialty grains. Glacier hops balance the wort resulting in  hoppy, and earthy flavors which compliment the core beer base.
49 I.B.U.’s
12.8 deg.  Plato
5.4% A.B.V.
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Reviews: 228 | Hads: 534
Photo of denver10
1.2/5  rDev -67.1%
look: 1.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1

Cloudy orange in appearance with very little head from the get go, and almost non-existent retention. Has a sweet, citrus smell partnered with almost metallic like quality. Taste seems to follow up with the smell adding in a little bit of bitterness at the forefront and the mouthfeel is thin with some carbonation.

Overall, not happy that I wasted so much money on a beer I dislike so much. Wish I didn't have 5 more left in the fridge. If I had the extra money right now I'd head back to the liquor store and buy something else, leaving the rest for guests/friends when they come over. (589 characters)

Photo of oline73
1.78/5  rDev -51.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1

Poured from a bottle into a standard pint glass.

Appearance: Pours a hazy amber color with a finger of off white head. A thin layer remains.

Smell: Sweet from the malt, perhaps a hint of fruit from the hops.

Taste: Here is where things totally fell apart for me. Super watery and mildly sweet, again there is a hint of fruit. There is a ton of bitterness at the finish, but nothing is working here for me. So much so that I wonder if this is a bad bottle.

Mouthfeel: Thin body with high carbonation. Super dry finish.

Overall: This is a drain poor for me. I hope this beer is usually better. The bitterness didn't go with anything else in the beer, and it was really watery. (680 characters)

Photo of Treebs
1.88/5  rDev -48.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

12 oz. bottle served in a pilsner glass. Thanks to Holland (Eric) for the extra a while back. Found this guy floating around in the back of the fridge and decided to crack it open.

A: Pours a clear copper color with a solid light yellow head forming on the pour. The head slowly recedes to a thick collar with nice sheets of lace left behind.

S: The first whiff is not pleasant. Spoiled honey with slight souring note. Souring in a gone bad though. The bready malts are almost sourdough in nature.

T: There is a slight compost heap flavor with spoiled hops upfront, but those quickly fade to pale malts. The finish is sourdough bread malts with some unpleasant.

M: The unpleasantness of the nose and taste make this guy hard to get down. Luckily the flavors exit the taste buds rather quickly so swallowing isn't too bad of an option.

O: Well I don't know. It looked so good and I've liked other Short's beers. Their Mystery Stout is really good, but this one was just not good. The malt bill was not pleasant in any way, shape or form and the hops were just not there. Not balanced. Avoid. (1,095 characters)

Photo of brystmar
2.38/5  rDev -34.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Received as an extra in trade a few weeks back.

Pours an amber color with red hues. One finger of white head, good lace and retention. Decent aroma, though it's a bit heavy on the sweet malts. But that's where the praise ends...

Taste is awful. Bitter, dirt-y. Hints of sweet malt in the background, but mostly just terrible. Can't say I'm surprised though; this is about par for the course for a Short's beer. Time to meet my drain! (435 characters)

Photo of LiquidBread219
2.58/5  rDev -29.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A: Light copper orange or straw color with a small head that dissipates rather fast.

S: Not a whole lot going on at first - some acidity and a bit of malt with earthiness. I kind of picked up on earthiness rather fast. In fact I don't know if I had a older one or not but I also picked up on some Oregeno or something like that.

T: Bitterness, malt, grass or Oregeno or Garlic to me anyways just kind of tasted like some short of a pizza beer to me whatever it was it was pretty overpowering in this beer.

M: Light body and low carbonation for the style. I kind of thought it was Thin.

O: Overall, I didn't really care for it and I just have had a lot of misses with shorts. I like the fact that they take chances and kind of experiment but I have only found I few of there beers I like. Everytime I go to Michigan I pick up a mixed six pack to try there different styles and flavors and it only cost about $10 bucks so to me it's worth the risk because I might find something I like. (990 characters)

Photo of BarrytheBear
2.64/5  rDev -27.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Bottle courtesy of Stephen. Thank you again for sending me a variety of Short's stuff to explore! Into a Magic Chouffe tulip that's backlit by the sun fading through the trees. This weather lately has been simply spectacular and helped to shake me the, albeit mild, winter doldrums.

Darker copper orange pour crowned by a good two fingers of tall pillowy white. Retention is good and lacing is disappointingly low. When first poured it's a particularly good looking beer.

Smell is predominantly sourdough bread. Lingering beneath is under-ripe honeydew melon. A malt driven pale on the nose to be sure.

Taste is much the same. Big sourdough breadiness and an undercurrent of bitter melon that's not juicy, but rather dry and not yet fresh. Body is medium and carbonation is on the lighter end.

Overall, this is slightly below average pale. Not something I would go out of way to drink again, but happy to have had the chance. (930 characters)

Photo of xnicknj
2.7/5  rDev -26%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12oz bottle poured into pint glass - thanks to landrewg

Pours a hazed caramel color with some golden hues. A massive head balloons out of control as the beer is almost all foam. It took a while to pour before it settled down...not a great sign.

Some floral hope bite with citrus and orange. Some grassy notes with biscuit malt, but a slight ping of tartness as well which runs throughout.

Bitter hops and citrus juice up front. Orange and a slight bite of grapefruit mix with an off-putting tartness. The fruit and hop flavor is trying to remain on top, but there's definitely something off here, as a dry sourness with some metallic edges becomes present.

Medium body, way high carbonation, dry and lingers forever. I really like Short's but this isn't the first time I've gotten a weird bottle from them. I'll re-review this if/when I get another one. (860 characters)

Photo of blakelive784
2.74/5  rDev -24.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

12 fl oz bottle served in a snifter:

A - Pours a murky, non transparent burnt orange/copper color with a thin head of a half finger. Retention is terrible.

S - Smells strongly of citrus fruit and cotton candy. Sweet caramel malts form the foundation. Doesn't have the typical American cascade/centennial nose standard in APA's, which is welcome.

T - Heavy on the caramel malt. Bread and citrus. Noticeably bitter on the finish. Rather simple and watery on the finish, and it's not quite as complex as I would have guessed.

M - Too smooth, too wet.

D - A decent beer, that has potential, but in it's current form is nowhere near great. (643 characters)

Photo of JLeege
2.76/5  rDev -24.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

My first beer from Short's. Poured into a pint glass.

Appearance- Pours a murkey orange and fairly cloudy. Almost a two finger white head that dissipates to a small layer a top the beer.

Smell- Some faint citrus hops, but fairly malty overall. Some light, dark fruit notes.

Taste- Again, not a whole lot going on here. Has a strange sweet taste, with a bit of grapefruit on the finish.

Mouthfeel- Light and thin, fairly watery. Not to good.

Overall- Maybe this is a bad bottle or old? There is a number code on the bottle, but I can not tell what it means, the label is unmarked. I like the label artwork, but that is the best part of this beer (I will bump the appearance up half a point!). (698 characters)

Photo of FtownThrowDown
2.76/5  rDev -24.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Dark gold in color on the pour. Only a little bit of a frothy head forms on the pour. Plenty of spotty lacing left on the side of the glass. Smell is slight malts, but has a bit of a lagerish smell to it. Entirely not what I was expecting.
Taste is bittering hops and just bitter. Crisp, but tastes just a bit dirty. Not sure what type of Pale Ale this is.
Not something that I enjoyed or will revisit. (402 characters)

Photo of alexanf
2.76/5  rDev -24.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

A: Pours a dark copper.

S: Hints of fruit, zest, caramel, and hops.

T: Bitter start that transitions into a dry, zesty wood finish.

M: Smooth, but lingering bitterness.

O: I'm a huge Short's fan, but, I wouldn't go out of my way to drink this again. (253 characters)

Photo of chugalug06
2.79/5  rDev -23.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 2.5

A - Quite thin with foamy white head. Some slight lacing too. Brew is a cloudy orange color...

S - Slight bar-rag scent... Not your typical Pale. Some kiwi, orange, and lime.

T - Very unique. Doesn't quite fit the style... Not too much in the way of hops. Silky. But, doesn't overly impress.

M - Some nice Pale Ale bitterness... Very nice carbonation too.

O - Greatly disappointing with this Short's offering. Not recommended. (430 characters)

Photo of carlborch
2.81/5  rDev -23%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours a hazy golden-brown with a 1-inch off-white head that dissipates quickly. Fresh hoppy nose with some fruit, although I cannot identify the fruit. Overripe mandarins? Light-medium body. Nice front, short center and slow lingering finish. I expected a crisp finish, but find a low sweet note instead. Definite earthy tones. Nice Belgian lace forms. Refreshing but not overly interesting nor memorable. It is not moreish. Depending on what else is available, I would consider trying it again on a hot day. (508 characters)

Photo of Holland
2.83/5  rDev -22.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A: light copper orange or straw color with a small head that sticks with it.

S: not a whole lot going on at first - some acidity and a bit of malt with earthiness.

T: bitterness, malt, grass or dirt

M: medium body, medium-low carbonation for the style, with fine bubbles.

O: Too subtle, and still doesn't seem to come together in a well-crafted way. The 6-pack was $10, but not worth buying again for me. (411 characters)

Photo of salvo
2.85/5  rDev -21.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a darker tan than expected: hazy red brown under thready lacing. Nose is mostly malt with hints of flowery hops.

Flavor unrolls sweet, then sour. Malt up front with floral and earthy hops. Ends sour and a little muddied.

Rich, full-bodied mouth feel.

I brought a number of Shorts back from a recent trip up north. I hope the next style is better. (355 characters)

Photo of JamnesCameron
2.9/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a SN Anniversary Ale glass.

Pours a slightly hazy copper color with virtually no head, but a wisp on the surface.

Aromas of earthy, piney hops. Not very strong hop aroma. Some malt sweetness in the background.

First sip is of earthy, slightly piney hops. Some malt sweetness is evident. Overall, though, there is not much flavor here.

Mouthfeel is a little thin, with a drying bitterness.

Drinkability is average. There is nothing here to offend or overpower, but nothing really to excite either. (513 characters)

Photo of Cresant
2.92/5  rDev -20%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Served this 12 oz. brown bottle in a tulip pint. Not dated. The body was lightly hazy and copper colored. The head was mild but a cap remained.

The smell was of candy. Sour apple peel and intense fruity hops. Earthy, hay-like. Maybe even hints of celery? weird. Faint bread crust as if warmed further.

The taste was rather strong, but pretty balanced. Grapes and hops. Something about this one didn't really grab me. Maybe it was too fruity, tangy even.

The mouthfeel was medium density with plenty of fine carbonation. I would not seek this one out again. (562 characters)

Photo of steve8robin
2.92/5  rDev -20%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Got this brew as a Christmas gift. 12oz bottle...

A: A nice bright murky orange with a tiny 1/2 inch white head that fades to tiny bubbles atop the brew. Ok.

S: I get a slight citrus scent upfront with a little lemon and a blend of malt followed. Floral on the backend. Decent.

T: A watery mild lemon upfront followed by a slight floral citrus. A mild malt on the backend. A very mild pale ale. Eh.

M: Medium body with a huge carbonation. A mild watery lemon. Ok.

O: All in all, this is not a stellar beer. Very watered down and more like water with a hint of lemon flavor in it. So many better examples in the style. Don't worry about this one. (650 characters)

Photo of donkeyrunner
2.95/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Cloudy amber with a craggy moonscape head. Good retention.

Apple juice sweet crystal malts at first but then it smells like something between a Twinkie and a vanilla frosted Grand Marnier cupcake when it warms up.

Herbal bitter and orange zest amid a too sweet toffee and whipped cream malt background. As it warms the toffee and whipped cream again taste like a vanilla frosted Grand Marnier cupcake.

Weird beer. (417 characters)

Photo of curasowa
2.96/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Appearance: Slightly hazy, copper color with one finger of head that fades quickly to a ring.

Aroma: Toasted malt, grain husk, a little catty, faint earthy hops and tortilla chip, strangely enough.

Taste: Some biscuity malt upfront and a dull bitterness throughout; body is on the thin side of medium. Some graininess and dishrag on the back end. Bitterness lingers on through the finish.

The Rest: Picked this up on a recent trip to MI to try something new. Probably wouldn't bother with it again. Reminds me of a mediocre home brew - you can tell what they were after but it's just not right. (597 characters)

Photo of chicagobeerriot
2.99/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a lightly veiled light copper with a thin but persistant cream-hued head.

Very light on the nose: a bit of citrus peel and pine, but not in the amounts that would usually signal that a tasty experience is ahead.

The mouthfeel is more full-bodied than you'd ordinarily expect for an APA. Thicker and more lightly carbonated than its bretheren.

That thickness helps contribute to the biscuity and grassy flavors that dominate. Only a bit of lemon zest and a hint of pine provide background complexity before the crisp hop finish hits your throat. This is a hard beer to read. I appreciate that it's different from your average APA and there is enough flavor here to recommend it, but the mouthfeel and the biscuity quality are too out of profile. Unfortunately, that all leads to an average review for a not-so-average beer. (831 characters)

Photo of billab914
2.99/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12oz bottle into my Sierra Nevada shaped glass. It poured a hazy, orange/amber color with a moderate white, fluffy head to it. Decent head retention as well as lacing as I drank it.

The aroma has kind of a strange tart, fruity flavor to it. I get a mix of something a little like light strawberry and blueberry mix coming through. It's sweet, but at the same time kind of tart and fruity. Some sweet pale and grainy malts are there as well, but seem a little hidden. Very strange aroma for an APA.

The taste also starts off with some very sweet and fruity notes to it. I get something a little like a light strawberry flavor going on at first. Once I really get into the flavor I get more of a pale, grainy, sweet malt presence coming through. In the finish some of the earthy, slightly bitter hops come into play, helping to offset some of the sweetness. Interesting flavors overall.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with moderate carbonation. Drinkability wasn't bad surprisingly. It has a very strange aroma for the style to me, but didn't taste bad. If I was told they added a bit of some fruit extracts I'd definitely believe it. Overall a pretty interesting beer, but not one of the better ones in the style in my opinion. (1,245 characters)

Photo of SaltofOH
3/5  rDev -17.8%

9-5-14. Bottle. Boston shaker.
A: Pours a crystal clear pale copper. 1/8" off-white head fades to a thin cap (a gentle pour as to avoid disturbing sediment). Lots of small-bubble carbonation. Average lacing
S: Malty & fruity. Fruit is subdued and sweet. Strawberry; hints of resin. Slight waft of alcohol.
T: Semi-dry arrival; turns sweet-ish & resiny across mid palate. Very firm, but not overpowering bitterness at the end. Slight touch of alcohol.
M: Hefty. Mid-to-full bodied. Lots of carbonation, but not overdone.
O: A good, but not great, APA. Nice balance, but missing that certain "something." (616 characters)

Photo of projectflam86
3/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A- Pours a hazy golden/orange color with a thick white foam that leaves some lace. Much cloudier than I would expect from a pale ale.

S- Some faint hops and caramel malt but really not picking up alot in the nose.

T- Some fruity hops initially but very little bitterness. An uncharacteristically sweet finish. Some caramel malts and toasted grains lend quite a bit of sweetness. Actually a pretty decent flavor but not nearly hoppy enough to be considered a pale ale.

M- Medium bodied with good carbonation. The beer is overly-sweet for the style. Almost as if it were slightly under attenuated.

O- Overall a beer that I enjoyed drinking but was really surprised at how much it deviated from the style. (714 characters)

Photo of kbutler1
3/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle. Pours a reddish orange color with surprisingly little head. What head there is, is a off white color that collars around the glass. The aroma is of sweet malt with hints of an almost pumpkin aroma. The taste is sweeter that I would like with a slight bitter ending. Not anything special but an easy drinker for sure. Light/medium mouthfeel. (348 characters)

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Short's Pandemonium Pale Ale from Short's Brewing Company
83 out of 100 based on 228 ratings.