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Short's Pandemonium Pale Ale - Short's Brewing Company

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466 Ratings
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Ratings: 466
Reviews: 224
rAvg: 3.62
pDev: 12.71%
Wants: 11
Gots: 28 | FT: 1
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Short's Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Pale Ale (APA) |  5.40% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
This blessed, coppered colored ale lends it’s hue to hearty pale ale malts and hand selected specialty grains. Glacier hops balance the wort resulting in  hoppy, and earthy flavors which compliment the core beer base.
49 I.B.U.’s
12.8 deg.  Plato
5.4% A.B.V.

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smcolw

Massachusetts

3.7/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Lumpy head that leaves a lattice of lace. The brew is orange-amber with a bit of haze.

A cross between soured milk and sweet caramel is the initial smell. Subsequent whiffs give a bit of floral hop.

Far more hoppy (peppery) on the tongue than the smell would lead one to believe. Good amber (crystal malt) flavors. The bitterness is biting but not overwhelming. The aftertaste lasts about half a minute. The body is richer than most Pales; the carbonation is low.

Serving type: bottle

11-06-2011 01:17:27 | More by smcolw
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pixieskid

Germany

3.3/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a nice dark orange hue with a decent white head and fair aromatics.

Notes of floral and citrus hops with a lingering graininess and caramel back. Mild bitterness throughout with a lingering grassy hop presence and slight floral hop note.

Overall; nothing impressive but a decent enough pale...

Serving type: bottle

11-03-2011 05:46:33 | More by pixieskid
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Beaver13

Colorado

3.03/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

12oz bottle. Pours a clear golden copper with a smallish off white head that quickly goes to a thin film that leaves some lacing.

The aroma is sweet bready toasted caramel malt with some fruity light resiny hops.

The flavor is sweet toasted biscuit malts and some rye(?) with a good sized grassy bitterness. The mouthfeel is light to medium bodied with soft carbonation.

Overall, an OK pale ale. It has really good bitterness, I just don't really care for the toasted malts and grassy bitterness.

Serving type: bottle

11-03-2011 02:28:09 | More by Beaver13
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pokesbeerdude

Colorado

3.63/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle courtesy of RocPorterFanatic in the Chillin and Grillin II BIF. Into a SA Perfect Pint.

A: Nice pale amber colored beer, decent clarity, just the slightest bit turbid. White head that foams up to about half an inch and then dissipates into a small cap with a bunch of globs of lacing that are left behind.

S: Caramel malts, grainy malts, and a slightly floral hop profile. Slightly fruity yeast ester. Doesn't have a ton going on, but smells alright.

T: Nice grainy malts, a few flavors of honey and caramel and a nice bit of bitterness to even things out. Really a balanced pale ale. Just enough of everything to keep things put together. A little more of a hop profile would help it out quite a bit though.

M: Perfect on the mouthfeel, medium body, mild carbonation and a dry finish. Hits it exactly right.

O: Not a bad little pale ale, nicely balanced with decent flavors. Not over carbonatead, and not too dry or too sweet, hits a lot of things right on the money. Would definitely revisit this beer.

Serving type: bottle

10-27-2011 23:56:51 | More by pokesbeerdude
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prototypic

Ohio

3.43/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pandemonium Pale Ale is copper in color. There’s a moderate amount of haze. More than I anticipated. Backlighting gives it a bit of an orange look. An off-white head covers it, but only rises to about a finger in height. It’s very quick to recede, leaving a very light coat of lace behind.

The nose is pretty good and interesting. The malt base is an interesting mix of caramel and toasted malts. The toasted variety smells like the stronger of the two. Hops are there, but aren’t your typical American Pale fare. They smell earthy and spicy with just a hint of citrus orange. Alcohol is very light in the mix. Smells different, but pretty good.

The flavor keeps the pace. The malt base is definitely a mix of toasted and caramel malts. Interesting choice. It’s a little sweet. There are interesting herbal and praline-like flavors that are prominent throughout. Very unique. Hops are noted and are a little stronger than expected. They taste a little spicy, herbal, with a touch of citrus orange. I have no clue what the hop bill is, but I’ve never tasted anything like it in an APA. It definitely has a bitter kick. I’d say it’s more hoppy than malty. Alcohol is blended well. Finishes with a spicy hop kick and just a touch of toasted malt and praline flavors.

Pandemonium Pale Ale has a light medium body. It definitely feels a tad thin. Carbonation is active, but doesn’t feel buzzy. For the style, it feels pretty average. Not bad though.

Pandemonium Pale Ale is definitely one of those releases from Short’s that veers left of center in terms of its consistency with the style. How so? Well, the strong presence of toasted malts and praline flavors are the biggest clues. The spicy and herbal hop flavors are further evidence. It’s definitely novel, but isn’t bad. It’s not my favorite formula for an APA, but it isn’t bad. Definitely one worth checking out.

Serving type: bottle

10-24-2011 03:39:18 | More by prototypic
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buschbeer

Ohio

3.53/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle
Served in a pint glass

A - It pours orange/burnt orange in color with two inches of beige head.

S - I get some caramel malt with floral hops.

T - Solid malt backbone with mild hops

M - Moderate with some chalkiness

O - Not a hoppy pale ale. I guess it's a good alternative to an adjunct.

Serving type: bottle

10-23-2011 15:11:47 | More by buschbeer
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ArrogantB

Colorado

3.05/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Got a bottle of this in a mixed sixer for $11. Bright yellow color, slight haze. Smells like biscuit and a hint of hops, citrus. Taste is more biscuit and a bit of hops but I honestly did not find this to be overly hoppy and wasn't too impressed. It was a decent beer but for $11 a sixer I would buy SNPA instead every single time. I think the trend of upward pricing really works against a lot of breweries if the beers aren't better than the benchmark for the style.

Serving type: bottle

10-21-2011 17:24:52 | More by ArrogantB
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rsdaugherty

Colorado

3.65/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle into pint glass
A – Light tan 1 finger head reduced pretty quick to a think layer with bits of lacing all around for the whole glass, a hazed moderate amber color 3.5
S – Grassy, mild hops, mild citrus, slightly sweet 3.5
T – Nice malt and hops all around balance. Doughy bitterness, with moderate citrus zest and mild malts, mineral quality on the finish 3.5
M – Moderate body, with nice carbonation, good overall mouth feel 4
O – Good drinkability with nice balance, stronger hop profile for an APA, a good brew I enjoyed but so comparable in the PA segment, mouth feel makes it a 4

Serving type: bottle

10-19-2011 04:39:22 | More by rsdaugherty
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UnionMade

Colorado

3.8/5  rDev +5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

After hitting three stores, I got the last sixer I could find in Denver. Not cheap at $10.99 for six.
Dirty copper with a slim, finely bubbled head. A weak collar sticks around, but the head is all but gone after the first couple sips. Some spotty lacing, but nothing to write home about.
Smells of bready malt, doughy yeast and lemony hops. Pleasant and inviting, but maybe a little underwhelming for the price.
The flavor opens with mild malty sweetness. Quite a bit of doughy flavor, I'd guess from the unfiltered nature of the brew, which actually works really nicely with the bright hop flavors towards the finish. The malt flavors are blurred in the muddy yeast, but the hey-yall sunshine of the hops saves it from becoming a rainy day in your mouth. Tastes earthy, and kind of brewpubby, if that makes any sense. It's probably the stronger flavors of the yeast, which reminds me of the unabashedly unfiltered offerings from my favorite brewpub when I lived back in Connecticut. Light estery fruitiness, mostly a gentle suggestion of pear. A lot of citrus, finishing without a lot of bitterness, but a good bit of hop flavor. Really soft carbonation coaxing along the relatively full body. I like that quite a bit, and it's probably my favorite part about this beer. Feels almost cask-like, which equals supreme drinkability in my book. Leaves off with a rich, juicy mouthfeel, similar to the effect of orange juice.
I'm happy I got to try this, and it was really cool that Shorts distributed here, even for an incredibly brief amount of time. However, the only one I got to try that was close to being worth over $10 a sixer was the IPA, and maybe the brown. Tastes maybe a little unrefined, like something you'd sample from your buddy's garage homebrew system. I like it, but I don't know if I'd pay a super-premium price for that. When it comes down to it, all my complaints are related to what i got for the price. It's a good beer, but not worth paying $10. There's probably three dozen pale ales available in Denver that are way less expensive and at least as good.

Serving type: bottle

10-13-2011 03:36:21 | More by UnionMade
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denver10

Kentucky

1.18/5  rDev -67.4%
look: 1.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1

Cloudy orange in appearance with very little head from the get go, and almost non-existent retention. Has a sweet, citrus smell partnered with almost metallic like quality. Taste seems to follow up with the smell adding in a little bit of bitterness at the forefront and the mouthfeel is thin with some carbonation.

Overall, not happy that I wasted so much money on a beer I dislike so much. Wish I didn't have 5 more left in the fridge. If I had the extra money right now I'd head back to the liquor store and buy something else, leaving the rest for guests/friends when they come over.

Serving type: bottle

10-13-2011 00:42:21 | More by denver10
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chugalug06

Colorado

2.78/5  rDev -23.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 2.5

A - Quite thin with foamy white head. Some slight lacing too. Brew is a cloudy orange color...

S - Slight bar-rag scent... Not your typical Pale. Some kiwi, orange, and lime.

T - Very unique. Doesn't quite fit the style... Not too much in the way of hops. Silky. But, doesn't overly impress.

M - Some nice Pale Ale bitterness... Very nice carbonation too.

O - Greatly disappointing with this Short's offering. Not recommended.

Serving type: bottle

10-10-2011 03:38:51 | More by chugalug06
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Mebuzzard

Colorado

3.5/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A nice PA from Shorts. Picked up a sixer in Denver while they lasted.

Light amber/golden pour, looks malty for what it's worth. Off-white head is splotchy and varied.

Aroma and taste sparkle with hops, but the malt carries the day. While sure not a malt bomb, this beer profiles the grains more so than the flower. A solid backbone, the malt first comes up as earthy, like dirty grass. Overripe backyard apples, with hints of caramel, provide a medium for more biscuit. Hops provide the sharpness and some more earthiness. A hint of nutiness as it finishes leaving a small sample of that caramel.

Overall a solid PA

Serving type: bottle

10-08-2011 22:51:03 | More by Mebuzzard
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womencantsail

California

3.3/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks for this one, Thorpe.

A: The pour is a clear light amber color with a finger of sticky white head.

S: Sweet hop aromas with a nice fruit character to it. A little bit of floral hop character and maybe some herbal notes, too. Some bready malts and maybe a touch of apple.

T: There is an almost honey flavor to it. Very floral in nature with some minimal citrus peel hops. A little bit of a tea and herbal flavor, too. Sweet pale malts all the way through.

M: Light in body with a medium level of carbonation.

O: Not too bad, though splitting the bottle was more than enough for me.

Serving type: bottle

10-08-2011 21:22:20 | More by womencantsail
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Stockfan42

Massachusetts

3.28/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a medium orange body with a foamy white head that quickly thins out.

Smell is pretty much hoppy and malty, but well balanced. Small hints of some fruits.

Tasted mostly of sweet malts and a little bit of an earthy presence. The bitterness was kind of a let down, wasnt very bitter at all. Very smooth and easily drinkable.

Mouthfeel was creamy yet still light bodied, nicely carbonated. Leaves a nice earthy after taste as well.

Overall I was happy with this beer. I thought it would have been a bit more bitter as the label had lead me to beleive but its still a decent pale ale.

Serving type: bottle

10-07-2011 22:53:47 | More by Stockfan42
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jlindros

Massachusetts

3.58/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a decent fizzy almost 1 finger head that fades at a medium pace with a bit of lacing, over semi hazy nectar orange colored beer.

Nose is light, hints of floral hops, a bit of earthy herbal hops as well, touch of sweet malts.

Taste starts with light earthy semi herbal hops, bittering almost U.K. style hops, with a light floral hop kick. Then sweet malts, semi sweet taste overall with a light reddish malt but not really caramel, more like amber malts and a touch of biscuit, and almost slightly oxidized. I get a hint of soap as well later on the taste. It finishes fairly bitter, with some spicy earthy and herbal hops, and hints of malt flavors.

Mouth is med bodied, decent carb.

Overall not bad, more bittering hops than flavor or aroma, light soapy taste doesn't help either, but not too bad, fairly drinkable.

Serving type: bottle

10-06-2011 23:31:58 | More by jlindros
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GilGarp

Colorado

4.43/5  rDev +22.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle served cold into a pint glass.

Pandemonium is a hazy copper orange color with thick white head after a vigorus pour. It has fairly good retention and leaves nice lacing as it settles.

Aroma is hoppy but not overly so. It has a sweet candied orange peel smell which I really enjoy.

Flavor is also really well done. A little bit of caramel sweetness and a good dose of hoppy bitterness. Really well balanced with a lean towards the citrusy hops. As it warms, I start to notice more grassy and earth character in this beer.

Mouthfeel is medium-light in body and well carbonated. Balanced and drinkable.

For an American pale ale, this is one of the best.

Serving type: bottle

09-29-2011 03:53:26 | More by GilGarp
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MoreThanWine

Massachusetts

3.75/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a 2" off-white head. Hazy apricot colored body. Smells mildly of malt and fruit zest. Taste a bit surprisingly took a different path than the smell - it was more of a moderate IPA, the hops beating out any malt or zest. There's a moderate heft to the body and a slight lager-like crispness to the finish. As a pale ale it's not particularly pale but yest it's certainly still acceptable.

Serving type: bottle

09-16-2011 08:50:14 | More by MoreThanWine
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Metalmonk

North Carolina

3.53/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark coppery color with a thin snow white head, little circular flecks of lace left on the glass as the glass empties.

Delicate flowery/herbal aroma, with an even lighter cinnamon spice presence in the background.

Taste is a little more on the bitter green/leafy side than the aroma suggests, with little malt presence to add the depth I was hoping for. Bit of a metallic character too, with hints of apple and an almost astringent herbal facet. The label reads "behold the bitter hysteria," and I guess we get the "bitter" that is promised, although not sure about "hysteria."

The feel is tingly and well-carbonated, nothing special, nothing to complain about either.

A decent beer, though not outstanding. This is my third of a six pack over the last several days, and it seems to be missing something...like a healthier malt presence.

Serving type: bottle

09-14-2011 16:06:20 | More by Metalmonk
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cbutova

Massachusetts

3.58/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Part of the recent Shorts to hit in MA.

A- Deep gold body with a frothy white head. Nice size and decent retention. Lace drizzles down the glass.

S- Sweet caramel malt tones and general grains. A bit of earthy hops and butter as well.

T- Starts off with caramel, grains, apple fruits and slight nutty hints. Hops finish it out with floral and earthy hints.

MF- Light body and a somewhat creamy feel. Good carbonation and a slight bitter finish.

Solid pale ale with no off flavors or big flaws. Nice malts and hops.

Serving type: bottle

09-14-2011 03:18:55 | More by cbutova
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Dope

Massachusetts

3.58/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: A clear golden pour with a nice fluffy white head. Good retention and decent lacing.

S: Very herbal with some nice bready malt in there. Maybe some earthy notes as well.

T: Very herbal indeed. Decent bitterness with a bready malt base.

M: Clean, good carbonation. Pretty typical.

O: Simple APA with some nice herbal hops and a solid malt base. Nothing amazing but if you like herbal hops, give this one a try.

Serving type: bottle

09-13-2011 04:12:02 | More by Dope
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salvo

Indiana

2.83/5  rDev -21.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a darker tan than expected: hazy red brown under thready lacing. Nose is mostly malt with hints of flowery hops.

Flavor unrolls sweet, then sour. Malt up front with floral and earthy hops. Ends sour and a little muddied.

Rich, full-bodied mouth feel.

I brought a number of Shorts back from a recent trip up north. I hope the next style is better.

Serving type: bottle

09-05-2011 21:05:24 | More by salvo
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silentjay

Massachusetts

3.5/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

a bit of a chill haze on a dull copper colored ale with a standard almost white head that sticks around for a bit and laces pretty well.

aroma of herbal tea, bitter citrus, flowers, and biscuity malts.

biscuity and caramelly malts give way to the herbal/floral hops that have a bit of an earthy quality as well. kind of an odd pairing that doesn't wow me.

light/medium bodied with subtle carbonation that gives way to a bitter aftertaste.

well, its not bad, but its not what I would return to either. not quite an english pale ale, but not in line with the hop-forward american pale ales either.

Serving type: bottle

09-05-2011 05:11:01 | More by silentjay
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birchstick

Colorado

3.6/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - pours a cloudy, brownish copper color with a billowing head akin to a cumulonimbus pillow - a very impressive head.

S - smells of baked gingerbread and sugar cookies / cookie malts; not much hop in the nose

T - starts off sweet with the sugary cookie malts most dominant. A bit of biscuit enters as well, however is barely detectable. Ends with an earthy pine bitterness for which the label claims is so dominant.

M - really nice mouthfeel to it. Full bodied and creamy

D - this was a unique pale ale to say the least. More sweet than any other pale ale I have tried, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It wouldn't be a Shorts beer if it wasn't interesting. Worth a try!

Serving type: bottle

09-04-2011 03:42:17 | More by birchstick
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lurpy1

Minnesota

4.05/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Back in Michigan on business, and the liquor stores here are packed with odd sounding Short's Brews. Key Lime Pie? Nicie Spicie? Rusty Trombone? OK, only two of these are really beers, and they sound interesting but also a little scary. Nice to find something more traditional.

Drunk from the bottle, gets a free pass on appearance.

Not much going on up the nose! Pretty mild, a little bit of bakery. Pleasant, but nothing to get you in the tent.

The taste is a balance between hop and barley, would have expected a bit more hop, but hey, brewer's license I guess. Something of a doughy, bakery flavor comes through. Pretty good.

Nice drinking beer, offers something for everyone. Would have liked a bit more agression, though.

Serving type: bottle

08-18-2011 00:47:40 | More by lurpy1
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pb9613

Michigan

4.18/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance - A hazy pale brown color that is a little darker than most pale ales but it has a nice white head and good lacing.

Smell - This pale ale smells like you walked into a hops field with a nice grain background.

Taste - This pale ale hits you with hops like a sledge hammer but does not overpower the malt background. The biscuit and caramel undertones due to the dark copper color still come through with every sip.

Mouthfeel - The carbonation and malt base really play well together.

Overall - Like everything Joe Short puts into a bottle it is divine. I am glad I live in Michigan and can obtian Short's beer and every store selling beer.

Serving type: bottle

08-11-2011 00:08:50 | More by pb9613
Short's Pandemonium Pale Ale from Short's Brewing Company
82 out of 100 based on 466 ratings.