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Short's Noble Chaos Oktoberfest - Short's Brewing Company

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Reviews: 78
Hads: 238
Avg: 3.72
pDev: 20.43%
Wants: 7
Gots: 26 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Short's Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Märzen / Oktoberfest |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Fall

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: jimbotrost on 09-14-2005

Our new fall seasonal which is a Northern Michigan version of a German style Marzen or Oktoberfest, done the Short's Brew way. This beer is well balanced with Noble hop additions which provide a subtle bouquet and pleasant flavor which melds well with the malt profile consisting of 2 row, chocolate, special roast, caramel and Munich malts.  It's a brand new addition to the Short's Brew family of beer.
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Reviews by jmunsters:
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4.23/5  rDev +13.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle into a pint glass

A- Frothy 1 1/2 finger head quickly dissipates to much more dense 1/2 finger head clinging to the side of the glass. Body is a beautiful golden copper. Slight sediment.

S- Roasted caramel and chocolates. Slight sweetness. Malty over hops.

T- Roasted malts followed by a distinct crispness. The sweetness and roasted flavor make this almost a nice warm brown. The Noble hops are apparent on the finish providing a nice clean touch.

M- Medium to heavy feeling. Moderate carbonation, just about right. Very clean.

O- It's much more a cross between a well-hopped pils, and a rich nut brown than what most would consider a "traditional" Oktoberfest beer. I really enjoyed it. It tastes like the color of autumn leaves.

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Photo of DanGeo
3.25/5  rDev -12.6%

Photo of tectactoe
3.75/5  rDev +0.8%

Photo of danthehopslamman
4/5  rDev +7.5%

Photo of warnerry
3.73/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Notes from fall 2010

Pours a cloudy amber with one finger of head and some decent lacing left behind. Smell is pretty straightforward bready and roasty malts. This is definitely the hoppiest Oktoberfest I've ever had, but underneath it maintains the slightly sweet Marzen style. :Leaves some lingering bitterness on the tongue. Overall pretty good, if not the most traditional take on the style.

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Photo of mikerap100
3.75/5  rDev +0.8%

Photo of jeonseh
3.82/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle poured into a pint

A - Deep,reddish brown. Very clean looking and slightly reflective. Small white head.

S - Smells of bready and caramel malt with a nice dose ofnoble hops. A classic Marzen nose.

T - Sweet caramel and bready malt. There are hint of dark raisins and plums in the middle. The finish has a slight Noble hops presence that gives it a slight bite to cut through the sweetness

MF - Medium body with light carbonation that goes well with the slight Noble hops presence

O - Solid Marzen from Shorts that a bit more of a dark fruit than you usually find.

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Photo of glid02
4/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Lee - thanks!

Pours a clear chestnut brown color with a one-finger cream-colored head. The head recedes into a thin layer on top leaving decent lacing.

Smells of smooth caramel malts with hints of breadiness. Also present are mild amounts of earthy hops that intensify as the beer warms.

Tastes very similar to how it smells. Mildly dry caramel malt flavors kick things off and are joined quickly by solid bready flavors. Midway through the sip the malt flavors sweeten a bit before they're tempered by small amounts of earthy hop flavors. The hops fade out into a mildly bitter ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a nice thickness with moderate carbonation.

Drinkability is also good. I finished my glass without a problem and could have another.

Overall this was a solid beer for the style that was a bit drier than the best examples. Still, a solid and closer to traditional beer from Short's that's worth a shot.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
4.23/5  rDev +13.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(Served in a dimple mug)
A- This beer pours a dense clear walnut brown body with a thick creamy and lumpy head of butter cream that sticks to the glass in rings. There is a quick carbonation pushing to the surface.

S- The toasted biscuit malt aroma is rich with a faint support from darker roasted malts.

T- The cream taste leads to a rich toasted fresh malt flavor that is well lagered and a bit dry. There are hints of biscuit and toasted malt underneath. There is a nice Noble hop presents in the finish, which is clean and dry.

M- The medium-full mouthfeel has a creamy fizz texture to it and no alcohol heat.

O- This beer has a big rich lagered malt flavor with some nice soft depth and a good support but the Noble hops. I could drink a few liters of this.

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Photo of Brenden
3.5/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Noble Chaos looks the part of an Oktoberfest, a clear amber color. A wispy off-white head peaks at a little higher than half a finger. Retention isn't bad, and some spotty lacing throws down a bit of legging.
While Noble hops are here, it seems more of an Americanization of the style in its character. That is, while it's got a little bit of a peppery nip to it, and is pretty floral, but in with the caramel from the malts and the breadiness that's not quite in the range of the typical Marzen, there's a bit of extra sweetness and a note of citrus, and there's a certain earthiness that has more soil than must. It also tends toward more of a roasty nature than most.Interestingly, while the trend with the Americanization of classic foreign style involves making it bigger, that's not the case here.
The body is medium but has a certain thinness underneath, though it is crisp and flows pretty smoothly. It doesn't have much dryness, but there is a sort of "tinny" note to the feel.

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Photo of cynical1027
4/5  rDev +7.5%

Photo of DruC4
3.75/5  rDev +0.8%

Photo of king75
3.84/5  rDev +3.2%

Photo of nkersten
3.41/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Erik for including this one. Pours a burnt orange with a nice white cap that fades to a collar with good lacing. One of the better looking marzens I have had. Smell is malty lager balanced nicely with floral and spicy hops. Has some of the typical Shorts smells - not quite off, yet unique and not entirely beneficial to the beer. Taste is similar to many shorts beers as well... A great smelling beer followed by a rather boring flavor profile. Light malt, some caramel and chocolate malts, slightly roasty, barely noticeable hop balance. Hardly any malt sweetness makes this one kind of bland. Mouthfeel is medium bodied and medium carbonation. Overall, this beer has everything going for it but the taste - a bit too watery and bland.

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Photo of dmorley21
3/5  rDev -19.4%

Photo of Sammy
3.4/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

so so marzen at hopcat

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Photo of MarvinTheMarzen
3.74/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I'm a bit confused by this beer. It has some of the characteristics of a great Marzen but it has some unique qualities too. The beer pours a lovely amber with a low, short-lived head. If you didn't know about the Noble hops the smell could be off-putting. The taste is good - a bit of a bite but not as hoppy as the Summit Oktoberfest. Overall, quite pleasant.

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Photo of adamdarcy
3/5  rDev -19.4%

Photo of rolandboy
3/5  rDev -19.4%

Photo of Kegatron
3.54/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Photo of beergorrilla
3.25/5  rDev -12.6%

Photo of mzeld
4/5  rDev +7.5%

Photo of CharlesDarwin
3.82/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Ashley’s - Ann Arbor, MI - Nov 20, 2007. Aroma is a muddling of grain sugars, earthy spice and nips of Munich. Pours a middle brown, clouded and with tinted head. Flavor is a mostly generic bread malt, with rather gummy hops, a bouquet of light estery fruits, and a earthy chocolate touches. A certain tint of more caramelized or dark Munich malt, which is interesting. Not your typical Munich flavor, this has been messed with (no way...). Finishes dry and clean, with a good tooth of the gummy hops. When i had this, I had no idea what style it was, and I regarded it as a rather generic middle malt beer. So, as a Marzen, that makes sense and it doesn’t do a terrible job, but it could have clarified the malt profile and lager output a little bit.

12oz Bottle - SEP 18, 2010. Thanks, Sean! Ah, relief. Big cheerios and whole grain nose, full of classic O-fest malts. Translucent orange pour with a tan head. Flavors are generally sweet and well-defined, but show above-average hoppiness for the style, which I’m enjoying. Fresh, clean, malty and bright. A nice change of pace from the last two beers. Having had this twice now, I’m starting to see it as a classic Michigan Oktoberfest.

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Photo of kattmunkel
4/5  rDev +7.5%

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Short's Noble Chaos Oktoberfest from Short's Brewing Company
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