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Short's Noble Chaos Oktoberfest - Short's Brewing Company

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Ratings: 178
Reviews: 69
rAvg: 3.72
pDev: 10.48%
Wants: 6
Gots: 7 | FT: 0
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Short's Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Märzen / Oktoberfest |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Fall

Notes/Commercial Description:
Our new fall seasonal which is a Northern Michigan version of a German style Marzen or Oktoberfest, done the Short's Brew way. This beer is well balanced with Noble hop additions which provide a subtle bouquet and pleasant flavor which melds well with the malt profile consisting of 2 row, chocolate, special roast, caramel and Munich malts.  It's a brand new addition to the Short's Brew family of beer.
40 I.B.U.'s

(Beer added by: jimbotrost on 09-14-2005)
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5/5  rDev +34.4%

11-15-2011 18:36:43 | More by brycevolk
Photo of GoldenChild


5/5  rDev +34.4%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

My favorite time of year!

Out of a bottle into a glass.

This in my opinion the BEST Oktoberfest ever. Smells amazing lots of chocolate and nuttiness.

Nice off white head. Dark orange cloudy beer

Smooth, perfect carbonation and mouth feel.

Chocolate, Hazelnut, and Yumminess.

Very drinkable beer. Surprised by so many low ratings. Perfect cold weather beer.

Serving type: on-tap

09-16-2011 02:36:36 | More by GoldenChild
Photo of Drk93TT


4.5/5  rDev +21%

09-08-2012 02:48:38 | More by Drk93TT
Photo of fgilbert2


4.5/5  rDev +21%

05-22-2013 04:20:25 | More by fgilbert2
Photo of alexanf


4.5/5  rDev +21%

07-27-2013 15:40:25 | More by alexanf
Photo of jimbotrost


4.47/5  rDev +20.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Reviewed at the brewery in a 20 oz pint. Brewery describes it as a "crafty amber lager with the nobility of a true Short's brew." The pour was deep amber crimson to almost brown, it was capped with a white medium sized head and plenty of lace on the glass. Nice malty aroma with hop in background. Malt leads way into the flavor with a nice drying effect of the hops. Leaves you wanting more, even at 11 AM.

Serving type: on-tap

09-14-2005 18:09:41 | More by jimbotrost
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4.38/5  rDev +17.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 12oz bottle. Thanks goes out to gratefulbeerhead for yet another great beer. Eric you are amazing!

A- Pours a coppery color with light orange hues. One finger light tan head that has good retention. Sticky web lacing on the sides of the glass.

S- Nice amounts of toasted and toffee malts. There is a sweet brown sugar like aroma that lingers throughout the beer itself. The toasted malts are what come through the most like most Oktoberfest beers.

T- This beer is interesting for the style. There is a light toasted malt in the front of the beer. More toffee like notes come into play with some almost bready caramel notes. There is a brown sugar flavor that is in the middle to ending of the beer. The toasted malts come through again toward the end with a light earthy hop in the ending that balances this one out.

M- Medium light mouthfeel. Carbonation is good for the style and beer. Toasted malts lay on the palate with some light bitter hops in the aftertaste. The alcohol is hanging out in the background but doesn't really dry the palate. Flavors are clean and crisp with no off flavors.

D- This beer is very good. Just enough of a difference in the style that makes it standout. Another great beer from Short's and a easy session beer for me and most others I think.

Serving type: bottle

09-29-2010 04:14:35 | More by alleykatking
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4.35/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had this on-tap at Crunchy's Bar in East Lansing. Every time I see a Short's brew on tap, I am inclined to try it.

APPEARANCE: Pours a beautiful red/amber with a thin head that sticks to the side of the mug.

SMELL: Hops...that is all I could smell. I didn't know what type of beer this was before I tried it, so I thought it was another IPA in the style of Huma-Lupa-Licious.

TASTE: Hops hit you first and the bitterness is strong. It trails off quickly though and you are left with some caramel and malt. All around, an excellent transition in tastes.

MOUTHFEEL: Has the mouthfell of any IPA or Red. The alcohol seemed present even for the low alcohol per volume.

DRINKABILITY: Overall, quite an easy beer to drink and very enjoyable. Seems like a mix between a classic RED and an IPA, which I do not mind at all.

As usual, Short's doesn't let me down again.

Serving type: on-tap

02-12-2008 06:45:00 | More by NDPDuke
Photo of brew3crew


4.3/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On tap at hopcat CBS day. Oh what a day!

A-golden body with white head that sticks around for awhile

S-nice hop aroma that doesn't overpower

T-nice hoppy body with very smooth finish

M-medium body and oh so smooth. Should be as 4.25

O-very good remix of the style 4.25

Serving type: on-tap

10-02-2011 15:27:25 | More by brew3crew
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4.28/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A. Pours a dark copper with off white head that maintains good retention with some nice lacing.
S. Get some caramel malts and hops.
T. The taste starts out with some sweet caramel malts followed by some pine and citrus hops and finishes off with some chocolate and more caramel.
M. Smooth, creamy and easy to drink
O. A very enjoyable beer. Seems to be a cross between an Oktoberfest and an IPA. Not quite as sweet as an Oktoberfest, but not as bitter as an IPA. Something I think will be enjoyed by IPA and Oktoberfest drinkers. Great job Shorts.

Serving type: bottle

09-29-2011 02:04:34 | More by DannyDan
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4.25/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(Served in a dimple mug)
A- This beer pours a dense clear walnut brown body with a thick creamy and lumpy head of butter cream that sticks to the glass in rings. There is a quick carbonation pushing to the surface.

S- The toasted biscuit malt aroma is rich with a faint support from darker roasted malts.

T- The cream taste leads to a rich toasted fresh malt flavor that is well lagered and a bit dry. There are hints of biscuit and toasted malt underneath. There is a nice Noble hop presents in the finish, which is clean and dry.

M- The medium-full mouthfeel has a creamy fizz texture to it and no alcohol heat.

O- This beer has a big rich lagered malt flavor with some nice soft depth and a good support but the Noble hops. I could drink a few liters of this.

Serving type: bottle

03-26-2014 21:24:39 | More by rhoadsrage
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4.25/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle into a pint glass

A- Frothy 1 1/2 finger head quickly dissipates to much more dense 1/2 finger head clinging to the side of the glass. Body is a beautiful golden copper. Slight sediment.

S- Roasted caramel and chocolates. Slight sweetness. Malty over hops.

T- Roasted malts followed by a distinct crispness. The sweetness and roasted flavor make this almost a nice warm brown. The Noble hops are apparent on the finish providing a nice clean touch.

M- Medium to heavy feeling. Moderate carbonation, just about right. Very clean.

O- It's much more a cross between a well-hopped pils, and a rich nut brown than what most would consider a "traditional" Oktoberfest beer. I really enjoyed it. It tastes like the color of autumn leaves.

Serving type: bottle

09-22-2011 00:06:28 | More by jmunsters
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4.2/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

12 oz. bottle.

Slight haze in a deep copper body. Orange-gold edges. Small finger of sticky, light khaki head. Good lacing. Nose of cookie dough, spicy noble hops, ginger, and caramel. Nice and malty so far!

Toasted malts and a little hop spice up front. Slight graininess gives way to rounded sweetish cookie dough malt and caramel. Peppery, herbal hop bitterness in the background provides a nice contrast to the maltiness. More caramel in the finish with lingering grassy hops. Moderate body with a nice crisp feel. I really like the balance between the hops and the malt in this one (one of the hoppiest Oktoberfests I have had). Another very good Short's bottling!

Serving type: bottle

08-16-2010 00:46:37 | More by alexgash
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4.1/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A big thanks to erikkoppin for this great Short's brew. Cheers!

Appearance - Pours into my Bell's tulip with a dark golden toffee color. About a finger of tan head is achieved with a moderate pour, that dissipates quickly leaving nice looking lacing on the side s of the glass.

Smell - Caramel, bready malts, slight piney hops, smoke/earth, apple, and slight spices.

Taste - The initial taste is a relatively smoky/toasted malt flavor which honestly took me by surprise. I was not expecting this heavy of said flavor up front in this style of beer. This fades to nice toffee, caramel, and bready notes in the middle, and the taste finishes up with a distinct and nice dry hoppy flavor mixed in with an earthiness. Very unique for this style but I am digging it a lot.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied, oily, prickly carbonation, and again, finishes on a dry note.

Drinkability - If this was in six packs, this would be my new favorite Oktoberfest. I really enjoyed this beer, in a style I don't often enjoy (probably why I did like this so much, heh). Extremely quaffable and enjoyable.

Serving type: bottle

10-18-2010 01:14:27 | More by SpdKilz
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4.1/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 ounce bottle into pint glass, bottled 8/24/2012. Pours lightly hazy orange copper color with a 1 finger fairly dense light khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Spotty soapy lacing clings down the glass. Aromas of pear, apple, biscuit, caramel, toast, molasses, nuttiness, earth, and herbal spiciness. Very nice aromas with good strength and balance. Spot on to what I expected. Taste of big caramel, toast, biscuit, nuttiness, pear, apple, light chocolate, toffee, molasses, earth, and herbal spiciness. Lingering notes of light fruit, caramel, toast, biscuit, toffee, nuttiness, light chocolate, earth, and herbal spiciness on the finish for a good bit. Nice balance and robustness of flavors; with minimal cloying sweetness on the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a creamy and fairly slick mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is well hidden with only a slight warming after the finish noticed. Overall this is a great Oktoberfest! Nice robust flavors with good balance; very smooth and easy to drink. Highly enjoyable stuff; this was a lot better than I expected.

Serving type: bottle

10-22-2012 04:27:17 | More by superspak
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4.1/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Recently released in 12 oz. six packs for the very first time!

Pours a brilliantly clear chestnut/orange color with a settles dense & creamy 1/2" light beige head. Not much in the way of visible uprising carbonation. Thick, undisturbed rings of lace all the way down.

Smells of rich toasty malt with a hint of toffee and damp forest floor. A hint of caramel apple. Clean, lush and fresh.

Initially tastes like a toasted golden-rimmed over the fire marshmallow. A few quaffs into this ale and the toasted malts really surface and take center stage. There's a bit of an acrid burnt flavor that leans more toward earthy than smoke. A clean and edgy dryness cleanses the palate just as the malt elements start to compound and sticks around for a chalky finish.

Mouthfeel is oily, slick and smack-dab between light and medium bodied. The carbonation is very fine and playful, adding to the dry texture of this beer. The ending is a tad bitter and (again) chalky.

Drinkability is perfect on this sunny 60F October afternoon. This would pair nicely with an assortment of grilled red meats and sausages.

Overall Short's Brewing hits it out of the park again. This is definitely not a tradition German Oktoberfest style. The hops are very much apparent and the toasty qualities of this beer lean more toward an English brown ale. Put that all together and you have a rich, hearty and easily sessionable ale that's perfect for the season. I'll be purchasing more of this while it's still available.

Serving type: bottle

10-01-2010 20:30:53 | More by malty
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4.08/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

An unintentional weak pour produces a rather slim head. A stronger pour would have undoubtedly left something more impressive. Pour aside the retention is not great. Head recedes quickly leaving minimal scattered lacing. Body is a clear autumn orange, color well suited for a marzen and fall.

I will admit that Oktoberfest beers are not my favorite though I do love the smell. The smell of fall emanates from the glass rather appropriately for the style. The malt aromas are very warm and bready. Hops display a spicy earthiness which mesh well with the malt.

Noble Chaos is one of those beers that flows. The heavy malt flavor up front merges mid palate with the spicy, grassy hops. Toasted bread with a strong Munich presence roll onto the tongue first. The hops pick up mid palate and become quite assertive. The hops are very earthy leaving heavy amounts of grass and spice on the tongue. Hop profile is much stronger than many beers of this style.

Medium bodied beer with smooth carbonation. The flavor lingers making for a long finish.

This is a beer and a style for me where drinkability depends on the circumstance. In general Noble Chaos is a well crafted beer which is fairly easy to drink. Give me a crisp fall night and a camp fire, I would drink several. Interesting and appreciated interpretation of the style.

Serving type: bottle

08-30-2010 20:05:22 | More by kzoobrew
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4.05/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Thank you TCgoalie for this bottle.

Pours a deep copper color and is completly clear. The head is light tan and very small, but what is there has good staying power and leaves very sticky lacing.

The aroma is mostly of toffee and toasted malts. It has some brown sugar notes as well, and a bit of a fresh baked cookie like thing going on, but mostly toasty malt.

The flavor is less robust than some of the other fest beers I have had. sweet toffee and brown sugar mingle with a nice clean maltyness and just a touch of herbal hops. There is a bit of grainy astringency as well, but it passes quickly and gives way to a very toasty and somewhat dry finish.

The mouthfeel is medium, and while it does not seem very substantial in the mouth, the finish itself is a bit chewy and dry. Toasted malt and herbal hops linger on the palate.

Quite drinkable and not as filling as the FestBier I had just a couple days ago. I thought this was a pretty good offering, and is a drinkable and enjoyable Marzen.

Serving type: bottle

09-13-2010 23:16:56 | More by zoso1967
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Ontario (Canada)

4.05/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Noble Chaos Oktoberfest is a handsome butterscotch coloured lager. It is about as clear as a beer get's with this kind of deep, coppered tone. Although friendly with the light, it doesn't offer any substantial highlighting. No substantial head either.

The maltiness is toothsome enough to be reminiscent of nougat, rum cake, and sticky toffee pudding but isn't overly sweet in and of itself; rather, it is decidedly grainy and bready. This is bolder than many German examples but still smells like a traditional, time-honored recipe.

The addition of chocolate, roast, and caramel malts to the usual two-row and Munich provides additional depth in the flavour department; traces of cocoa, smoke and toffee dot the finish. It is still distinguished, mind you, by hearty graininess and rich, toasted bread notes.

All that scrumptious malty sweetness doesn't stick around long; the finish is dry as plain toast and becomes alight with spicy Noble hops - lots of 'em! The aftertaste has notes of rooibos tea and flower petals. It is earthy and has a soft but somewhat crude bitterness and flash of spice.

"A Tranquil beverage Exploring the Depths of great Splendor" is probably the worst beer slogan I've ever heard - Short's, I don't think you needed to trademark it, no one else wants it. Still, Noble Chaos is an Oktoberfest that everyone will want. And indeed everyone should buy it.

Serving type: bottle

11-28-2013 21:15:27 | More by biegaman
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District of Columbia

4.03/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had this in Grand Rapids, where I was home on vacation, on the 4th of July at HopCat. Appearance was light brown and I thought slightly hazy, although that could have been condensation on the glass. HopCat is not real bright inside so it may be amber in color in the right light.

My recollections are slightly hazy since I had this over a week ago, but I do distinctly remember chocolate and caramel notes in the taste. It's a little on the sweet side although they have added enough hops that it is not sickeningly so. I enjoyed this beer and found it to be very drinkable, but it is a strange bird - I'm not sure what I've had that is like it. Maybe some Belgian ales come closest. It struck me as being very different from any Oktoberfest beer I've ever had (I've had them from pretty much all the major Munich breweries and a few American Craft brewed ones as well).

Overall I would say that if you want a true-to-style Oktoberfest you may be dissappointed. If you approach it with an open mind and you like a slightly sweet mid-bodied beer with chocolate and caramel notes you will enjoy it.

Serving type: on-tap

07-15-2008 21:11:34 | More by maltusaurelius
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New York

4.03/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Fresh 12oz bottle - glad to see Short's has brewed this again

a - pours a rather cloudy medium brown color, two-finger light tan head, light retention and lacing

s - caramel malt with a substantial floral and earthy hop aroma, no alcohol noticeable, very light citrus notes along with some root beer

t - caramel malt and floral hop bitterness mix well creating a very well-balanced beer, light cola flavor, not much alcohol in the finish but there is some citrusy bitterness mixing with the caramel

m - medium-to-light bodied, moderate carbonation, well-balanced finish, light alcohol warming

d - quite drinkable stuff, very well-balanced with more hoppiness than almost any other "Octoberfest" beer I've had, quite easy on the palate yet interesting, I could drink several of these

Nice surprise to find this at the store today, and a fine addition to the Short's lineup. A very nice beer that will be even better when the weather starts to turn.

Serving type: bottle

08-15-2010 23:46:50 | More by WeisGuy
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4/5  rDev +7.5%

10-20-2012 23:07:19 | More by danthehopslamman
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4/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Lee - thanks!

Pours a clear chestnut brown color with a one-finger cream-colored head. The head recedes into a thin layer on top leaving decent lacing.

Smells of smooth caramel malts with hints of breadiness. Also present are mild amounts of earthy hops that intensify as the beer warms.

Tastes very similar to how it smells. Mildly dry caramel malt flavors kick things off and are joined quickly by solid bready flavors. Midway through the sip the malt flavors sweeten a bit before they're tempered by small amounts of earthy hop flavors. The hops fade out into a mildly bitter ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a nice thickness with moderate carbonation.

Drinkability is also good. I finished my glass without a problem and could have another.

Overall this was a solid beer for the style that was a bit drier than the best examples. Still, a solid and closer to traditional beer from Short's that's worth a shot.

Serving type: bottle

11-22-2010 02:53:50 | More by glid02
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4/5  rDev +7.5%

02-21-2012 03:43:23 | More by cynical1027
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4/5  rDev +7.5%

10-26-2013 03:02:39 | More by DruC4
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Short's Noble Chaos Oktoberfest from Short's Brewing Company
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