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Short's Noble Chaos Oktoberfest - Short's Brewing Company

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Ratings: 215
Reviews: 75
rAvg: 3.69
pDev: 11.92%
Wants: 6
Gots: 17 | FT: 0
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Short's Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Märzen / Oktoberfest |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Fall

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: jimbotrost on 09-14-2005

Our new fall seasonal which is a Northern Michigan version of a German style Marzen or Oktoberfest, done the Short's Brew way. This beer is well balanced with Noble hop additions which provide a subtle bouquet and pleasant flavor which melds well with the malt profile consisting of 2 row, chocolate, special roast, caramel and Munich malts.  It's a brand new addition to the Short's Brew family of beer.
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Photo of Sammy
3.4/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

so so marzen at hopcat

Photo of GRG1313
3.5/5  rDev -5.1%

Photo of Thorpe429
3.06/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a dark brown into my pilsner glass. Good lacing as it makes its way down. Nose has a toffee, caramel, roasted malt, touches of sweetness, and some Noble hops, but it's all a bit soft and doesn't fit that well. Strange that I normally really enjoy Short's beers, but some of the more "everyday" ones aren't up my alley. The taste is similar to the nose in that the flavors just don't work all that well and the beer isn't very integrated. Mouthfeel is moderate with okay carbonation. Drinkability is lower as there's nothing I truly like about this beer, unfortunately.

Photo of brentk56
3.48/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Appearance: Pours a cloudy amber color with a two fingered head that leaves some shards of lacing behind

Smell: Toasty, with a grassy hop character

Taste: The toast, up front, is quickly joined by the grassy hops and a surprisingly roasty herbacious character that lingers after the swallow and into the aftertaste

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: Definitely an unusual take on the style and one I don't much care for, sad to say

Photo of jaydoc
3.75/5  rDev +1.6%

Photo of mikesgroove
3.65/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

so i decided last night to break out 10+, thats right 10+ new shorts beers for a nice sampling with the family. turns out my and my brother in law were the only ones willing to go down this road, so long afternoon for sure. serve cold and consumed on 10/02/2010.

definitley a different take on the style from what i am used to for sure. pours out a light amber color with a nice head of white that caps the top but quickly fades off into a less then ideal lacing.

aroma is not at all what i was expecting as i am picking up a mix here of peppery spice, hints of caramel and vanilla? bready malts and a touch of an earthy, dirty aroma. definitely different. the flavor follows suit quite well with only sparing touches of bready and caramel malts. more of a spiced style with hints of toasted malts and a deep, sweet, odd sort of earthines to it. nice body though with a thin and well carbonate profile.

overall it was very drinkable but just imparted some odd flavors for me. i would do it again now that i know what i am going into in.

Photo of mendvicdog
4/5  rDev +8.4%

Photo of mactrail
3.28/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Beautiful coppery amber. Slight roasted barley nose. Starts out with a nice chocolate flavor and some malt sweetness, but gets drier and drier as you sip. Quite sharp in flavor. Light bodied. Some interesting roasted malt flavors but quite bitter. I can taste the Marzen base, but it seems overwhelmed by the excess of hops, noble or otherwise. So call it an Amber Ale, but that doesn't make it any more enjoyable. Appearance is nice with good lacing in the tulip glass.

Photo of oriolesfan4
3.75/5  rDev +1.6%

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.58/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A solid pour into into my 25cl tulip glass produces a three finger thick, pale amber tinged, light tan colored head. The beer is a deep amber color that shows a lightly hazed, dark copper / amber hue when held up to the light. The aroma smells amply of caramelized malt, toasted grain and even some ample, for the color, roast character towards the finish. A touch of lightly spicy and herbal hop notes lie underneath the more dominant malt character and at times gets completely lost within it.

Lightly sweet tasting with a soft herbal hop character up front, but this quickly disappears underneath a soft, but distinctive roasted malt in the finish that tastes a bit like burnt toast, but with out the burnt bitterness. This is very lightly roasty, but it does have quite a bit more roast character than one would guess by the color of this beer. The middle has a caramelized malt character that evokes thoughts of berries, this also is ultimately out muscled by the roast character in the finish, but unlike the hops it never quite disappears. The texture of this beer is nicely appropriate for a beer for the Autumn, it is a touch chewy and has some a character that leaves it lightly clinging viscously to the palate.

What a weird beer; it is interesting and tasty, but the roast character keeps throwing me off for some reason, it doesn't really seem to mesh with the rest of the beer. Still, I am definitely enjoying this beer, it just might have a bit too much roast character.

Photo of duceswild
3.5/5  rDev -5.1%

Photo of superspak
4.1/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 ounce bottle into pint glass, bottled 8/24/2012. Pours lightly hazy orange copper color with a 1 finger fairly dense light khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Spotty soapy lacing clings down the glass. Aromas of pear, apple, biscuit, caramel, toast, molasses, nuttiness, earth, and herbal spiciness. Very nice aromas with good strength and balance. Spot on to what I expected. Taste of big caramel, toast, biscuit, nuttiness, pear, apple, light chocolate, toffee, molasses, earth, and herbal spiciness. Lingering notes of light fruit, caramel, toast, biscuit, toffee, nuttiness, light chocolate, earth, and herbal spiciness on the finish for a good bit. Nice balance and robustness of flavors; with minimal cloying sweetness on the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a creamy and fairly slick mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is well hidden with only a slight warming after the finish noticed. Overall this is a great Oktoberfest! Nice robust flavors with good balance; very smooth and easy to drink. Highly enjoyable stuff; this was a lot better than I expected.

Photo of imperialking
3.5/5  rDev -5.1%

Photo of Huhzubendah
3.7/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks Adam!

The beer appears dark orange and hazy, with a quarter inch of off white head. The aroma is very pleasant, with malt, fruit, and sugar candies. Pretty sweet, with a cotton candy flavor. Really creamy feel, with a lasting sweetness on the palate. Marshmallows? Medium thin body with adequate carbonation. Pretty good beer. The sweet nature of this brew limits this to one serving for me.

Photo of brandoman63
3.5/5  rDev -5.1%

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.23/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(Served in a dimple mug)
A- This beer pours a dense clear walnut brown body with a thick creamy and lumpy head of butter cream that sticks to the glass in rings. There is a quick carbonation pushing to the surface.

S- The toasted biscuit malt aroma is rich with a faint support from darker roasted malts.

T- The cream taste leads to a rich toasted fresh malt flavor that is well lagered and a bit dry. There are hints of biscuit and toasted malt underneath. There is a nice Noble hop presents in the finish, which is clean and dry.

M- The medium-full mouthfeel has a creamy fizz texture to it and no alcohol heat.

O- This beer has a big rich lagered malt flavor with some nice soft depth and a good support but the Noble hops. I could drink a few liters of this.

Photo of Zaphog
3.75/5  rDev +1.6%

Photo of billab914
2.64/5  rDev -28.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into my Dogfish shaped pint glass. It poured a very murky, dark caramel color. The head filled the top inch of the glass at first but settled relatively fast. Some nice lacing was left as I drank it.

The aroma has a lot of fruit and citrus to it. Orange, lemon and apple seem come out of a unique sort of tart crispness I get form a lot of Shorts brews. It's not bad or infected, just kind of odd. Some herbal, citrusy hops are the next biggest flavor to it with some sweet malty notes following.

The taste shows some of the same fruity flavors to it right off the bat. Apple and pear seem to come through more, while just some hints of the orange and lemon come through. It has a resiny, herbal hop presence to it as well. Again kind of a pattern of this flavor in several of the Shorts beers I've had. As you get to the finish it gets much sweeter with a lot of malt to it. Strange beer for the style.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with moderate and slightly sharp carbonation. Drinkability isn't that great, the flavors are just very strange for the style. The sweetness mixed with the tart fruit flavors just didn't work for me.

Photo of biegaman
4.05/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Noble Chaos Oktoberfest is a handsome butterscotch coloured lager. It is about as clear as a beer get's with this kind of deep, coppered tone. Although friendly with the light, it doesn't offer any substantial highlighting. No substantial head either.

The maltiness is toothsome enough to be reminiscent of nougat, rum cake, and sticky toffee pudding but isn't overly sweet in and of itself; rather, it is decidedly grainy and bready. This is bolder than many German examples but still smells like a traditional, time-honored recipe.

The addition of chocolate, roast, and caramel malts to the usual two-row and Munich provides additional depth in the flavour department; traces of cocoa, smoke and toffee dot the finish. It is still distinguished, mind you, by hearty graininess and rich, toasted bread notes.

All that scrumptious malty sweetness doesn't stick around long; the finish is dry as plain toast and becomes alight with spicy Noble hops - lots of 'em! The aftertaste has notes of rooibos tea and flower petals. It is earthy and has a soft but somewhat crude bitterness and flash of spice.

"A Tranquil beverage Exploring the Depths of great Splendor" is probably the worst beer slogan I've ever heard - Short's, I don't think you needed to trademark it, no one else wants it. Still, Noble Chaos is an Oktoberfest that everyone will want. And indeed everyone should buy it.

Photo of glid02
4/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Lee - thanks!

Pours a clear chestnut brown color with a one-finger cream-colored head. The head recedes into a thin layer on top leaving decent lacing.

Smells of smooth caramel malts with hints of breadiness. Also present are mild amounts of earthy hops that intensify as the beer warms.

Tastes very similar to how it smells. Mildly dry caramel malt flavors kick things off and are joined quickly by solid bready flavors. Midway through the sip the malt flavors sweeten a bit before they're tempered by small amounts of earthy hop flavors. The hops fade out into a mildly bitter ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a nice thickness with moderate carbonation.

Drinkability is also good. I finished my glass without a problem and could have another.

Overall this was a solid beer for the style that was a bit drier than the best examples. Still, a solid and closer to traditional beer from Short's that's worth a shot.

Photo of DrDemento456
3.7/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Looks to be a nice dark amber brown with a slightly opaque colored head and excellent lacing. Noted it the nice creamy head and no sediment even though this beer is around 5 months old.

S - Smell of bready munich malts, and slight hops. Touches of caramel, toffee, cocoa, and wheat.

T - A nice rush of sweet malts, bready and full. Then a mild but not overpowering hop presence and finishes with a bready dry wheat flavor that rolls the sweetness across the palate. Not bad.

M - Light to medium in body. Spot on for the ABV.

Overall another Shorts beer I can say was good and very close to tradition versions of the stye, just a touch hoppy and crisp. Man I bet this was one hell of a beer fresh.

Photo of tectactoe
3.75/5  rDev +1.6%

Photo of Brenden
3.5/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Noble Chaos looks the part of an Oktoberfest, a clear amber color. A wispy off-white head peaks at a little higher than half a finger. Retention isn't bad, and some spotty lacing throws down a bit of legging.
While Noble hops are here, it seems more of an Americanization of the style in its character. That is, while it's got a little bit of a peppery nip to it, and is pretty floral, but in with the caramel from the malts and the breadiness that's not quite in the range of the typical Marzen, there's a bit of extra sweetness and a note of citrus, and there's a certain earthiness that has more soil than must. It also tends toward more of a roasty nature than most.Interestingly, while the trend with the Americanization of classic foreign style involves making it bigger, that's not the case here.
The body is medium but has a certain thinness underneath, though it is crisp and flows pretty smoothly. It doesn't have much dryness, but there is a sort of "tinny" note to the feel.

Photo of tommy5
3.5/5  rDev -5.1%

Photo of warnerry
3.73/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Notes from fall 2010

Pours a cloudy amber with one finger of head and some decent lacing left behind. Smell is pretty straightforward bready and roasty malts. This is definitely the hoppiest Oktoberfest I've ever had, but underneath it maintains the slightly sweet Marzen style. :Leaves some lingering bitterness on the tongue. Overall pretty good, if not the most traditional take on the style.

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Short's Noble Chaos Oktoberfest from Short's Brewing Company
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