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Short's Kind Ale - Short's Brewing Company

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Short's Kind AleShort's Kind Ale

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172 Ratings
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Ratings: 172
Reviews: 73
rAvg: 3.78
pDev: 15.34%
Wants: 6
Gots: 8 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Short's Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Pale Ale (APA) |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Fall

Notes/Commercial Description:
40-50 IBU

(Beer added by: seaoflament on 12-06-2009)
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Photo of aorloski
3.8/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thank you pimpmyporter for the extra!

Appearance - Pours an awesome hazy, lemon like golden orange. Beautiful one fingers worth of bright white head that sticks around through the duration.

Smell - Very hop forward pale ale. Not juicy or piney, more grass like hops. Kind of unlike anything i have ever smelled because every PA or IPA is either on the juicy or piny side. This one smells great. The grassiness is right up front and follows with some pine notes, i dont detect many malts but the smell on this one shines.

Taste - Follows the nose, grassy right up front and a kiss of pine to end the dry finish of this beer. Malts stick around in your mouth. Great stuff

Mouthfeel - perfect carbonation for a pale ale, thin over the tongue and washes down nicely.

Overall - This is such a good pale ale. I am drinking it on a fall night but i could see this being a staple in the summers, however this is not available to me in MA and i got it as an extra from ohio. It goes down smooth and being a hop head it is a great beer when not in the mood for a heavy IPA. Great beer!

aorloski, Nov 04, 2011
Photo of stabzmcgee
3.98/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance is light yellow transparent. Aroma is of a wet field of grass. Taste is much of the same. Wet grassy sweetness comes on strong. The palate is slick and light. Overall a good after work beer. Thanks to Chi81 for the extra! much appreciated.

stabzmcgee, Nov 02, 2011
Photo of GRPunk
4.08/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle dated 10/10/11, poured into a nonic pint.

A- A moderate pour created a 1-1/2 finger, off-white head. The body was a slightly hazed, golden-orange with light to moderate carbonation. The head settled and sustained at a foamy, 1/2 finger. There were awesome, sticky webs left about the glass.

S- While in the bottle, it came off as very hoppy, fresh, and organic. In the glass, there was a nice mix. It had an underlying sweetness and hops like fresh cut grass. At points I picked up very leafy, minty, herbal, and grapefruit hops. It really ran the spectrum of organic aromas.

T- Very pleasant and fresh. It had a grainy and sweet backbone with leafy hops throughout. Hints of aspirin toward the end. Smooth grapefruit in the clean finish.

M- Slighty thinner than expected. Medium carbonation and a light hop tingle. Very dry and clean in the finish.

O- This is a great example of a harvest style pale ale. It seemed really fresh. While showcasing the hops, it was nicely balanced with sweeter malts. I could put a few back in a single sitting and would definitely buy this beer again.

GRPunk, Oct 30, 2011
Photo of abraxel
3.4/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - Pours a light golden orange, very slightly hazy, with a finger or two of snow white head. It leaves some nice lacing down the glass.

S - Very nice hop aroma, lots of earthiness and citric acidity. I'm excited to take a sip. There's maybe a touch of simple, sweet malt in there, but the delicious hops are in charge.

T - Hmm... this does not live up to the aroma. There's some earthy, herbal hoppiness, but it's a little one-dimensional, with none of the explosive citrus that the nose hinted toward -- don't get me wrong, I wasn't expecting an IPA, but the aroma set the bar and the taste fell way short.

M - Kinda thin, but perfectly reasonable for a pale ale. There's a nice prickle of carbonation.

Overall, I love Short's, but Kind Ale is kinda mediocre. Oh well.

abraxel, Oct 22, 2011
Photo of minterro
3.6/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

A & S: WOW great smell right off the bat. A pungent aroma of piney citrus (grapefruit) hops. The perfect smell for an APA, although not super complex. The looks isn’t too hot. Clear carbonated pee look. The head keeps a thin layer on the top of the beer and the lacing is actually pretty good.

T & M: Really not at all what I expected, after the amazing aroma I smelled at first. The hoppyness isn’t coming through because the beer is very bitter (not even just in the finish, its just bitter throughout). There are also tones of earthy grass notes. Its a bit complex ill give it that, im tasting more of the piney hops way far into the after taste and in the burlps. The carbonation is pretty shape at first and then dies down a bit. Medium to low carbonation.

O: not super impressed by this beer. Shorts puts out some interesting seasonal every year, but usually it hit or miss (and more so miss). This one is would say isn’t as bad as some, but nothing very enjoyable.

minterro, Oct 21, 2011
Photo of heebes
4.22/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a pint glass a crisp, clear golden with a finger of white foamy head. nose is immediate dank hops; pine, floral, citrus but also resinous and pure hop oil: as a wet hop ale should be. Taste follows the nose closely; very bitter hops upfront. Citrus rind, grapefruit peel, pine needles; a palate wrecker. There is hardly any malt balance but don't think I'm complaining. Its a great hop forward pale ale. Mouthfeel is medium to heavy bodied, very dry sensation, heavy chew.
Overall, this is a fresh wet hopped ale that really delivered for me. I wish I had of grabbed the full 6-pack now! Recommended.

heebes, Oct 21, 2011
Photo of brew3crew
3.68/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Todd for this one!

A- haxy orange with a white whispy head

S- great wethop aroma. Takes a knock for fading fast

T-slight wet hopness that again, quickly fades. Sigh

M- medium body and smooth

O- another meh offering from shorts. Step your game up boys

brew3crew, Oct 21, 2011
Photo of mattyb
3.73/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Standard pale ale appearance, amber in color and a white head.

S - Mostly earthy notes, some pine, and a little grapefruit.

T - Overall a good taste, piney and herbal. Slight bitter bite, but very tolerable.

M - Medium body and carbonation, the bitterness leaves the mouth a little dry.

O - The only other wet-hopped ale I had this season was Founders, and this pales in comparison. This strikes me as just a normal pale ale. Don't get me wrong it was well put together, but nothing great or exceptional.

mattyb, Oct 21, 2011
Photo of zoso1967
4.03/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Kind Ale pours a classic looking light to medium amber color that is typical for a pale ale. It has a delicate cap of foam that slowly fades to a thin layer over the top of the beer. It leaves ample lacing on the sides of the glass.

The aroma is quite different than most wet hopped ales I have tried thus far. It is dank and resinous with notes of pine and grapefruit, but it also possesses some herbaceous, almost minty notes. The hop aromas are not as pronounced as in many other ales of this style, but they definitely dominate the fairly neutral smelling malt sweetness in the aroma.

The flavor is way smoother than I had expected it to be. The hops seem to take on even more of a minty quality and mingle well with the bready malt that also has a bit of a toasted grain character to it as well. Some floral notes also make their way into the flavor. I have to say that I would prefer this to be a bit more in my face, but at the same time I am enjoying all the different flavors and the fact that this is different than your usual wet hopped ale.

The mouthfeel is on the lighter side of medium with a fairly low amount of carbonation. It still seems appropriate for style though. The finish is resiny, but not overly so. It leaves some nice hop flavors after swallowing.

This is definitely not your standard wet hopped beer, but I really dig all the different flavors as well as the balanced approach. I can’t say that I like it more than a beer like Founder’s Harvest Ale, but I can say that I think it is a lot better than many people give it credit for.

zoso1967, Oct 18, 2011
Photo of TCgoalie
3.63/5  rDev -4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

The most exciting part of the pour is the slightly green tint. Not much head and no lacing.

The smell is very herbal featuring mint and maybe even some oregano. A bit of citrus creeps in at the end.

Earthy flavors lead the taste with tons of grass and spruce. The majority of the flavor is up front with a very mild malt bill.

Medium carbonation and a medium light feel accompany the taste.

This is a unique brew and a fun offering from Short's. Extra points for the label and name.

TCgoalie, Oct 16, 2011
Photo of LilBeerDoctor
3.68/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reviewed on 1/31/2010. 12 oz. bottle thanks to TheCheeseman (thanks Dan!). Pours a semi-hazy orange with a thick white head. Aroma of citrus, earthy hops, sweet tropical fruits, grapefruit. Flavor of citrus, pear, grapefruit, melon rind with a bitter finish. Very pleasant, easy drinking, great IPA. It's nothing crazy, but nonetheless I'm surprised by the lowish ratings.

LilBeerDoctor, Dec 23, 2010
Photo of Thorpe429
3.28/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from notes.

The color is a light golden orange color. A bit of a white head without too much lacing. The nose brings some very light citrus hops but not too much else. The taste is some really timid hops as well as a bit of pale malt. Feel has good carbonation and the appropriate body, but utterly lacking in hops for an APA. Nothing wrong with the beer as brewed, but not a very good pale ale.

Thorpe429, Oct 25, 2010
Photo of billab914
2.53/5  rDev -33.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into my Redhook shaped pint glass. On the first pour I get about 3/4 of a glass full of foam. Way too foamy for a pretty relaxed and easy pour. This is going to take a while to get this beer into my glass. The color of the beer as the foam fades is a murky orange amber. It did leave some good lacing from that huge head though.

The aroma has a mild citrusy hop presence to it with a bready, sweet, yeasty flavor as well. Slightly tart and moderately fruity. The aroma actually reminds me of a Saison.

The taste has some of the tart and yeasty flavors found in the nose. It had a dry bitterness in the finish but overall the hops were pretty mild. It had a moderate bready malt presence to it as well. Overall not what I expected, and not really that impressed overall.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied and despite the huge foamy head the carbonation is pretty moderate. Drinkability isn't good, I really didn't care for it and wouldn't have another. It was moderately hoppy but had some other flavors going on that I just didn't care for. Perhaps something was wrong with it maybe?

billab914, Jul 02, 2010
Photo of Gueuzedude
4.03/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A soft pour into my 25cl tulip glass produces almost three-fingers of pale tan colored froth. The beerr is a brilliantly clear, light copper hue. Ahh, nice and hoppy, the aroma is a just about even mix of herbal and fruity hop aromatics; grapefruit, lychee, fresh tangelo zest and a candied citrus zest note define the fruit-hop aromatics, while a herbal, lightly pine scented, and hint of hemp oil seem to be the most notable "herbal" components. The longer I sit with this beer the more fruit focused the aroma becomes. Nice and hoppy, exactly what I want from a Fresh-Hop beer; the malt plays a distant secondary role here with perhaps a touch of biscuit-malt like aromatics being noticeable.

The beer is a bit overcarbonated as the texture is definitely on the fizzy side. It has a pungent, herbal hoppiness to it up front though and finishes with a green, grassy, slightly hemp like, herbal hop character that lingers on the palate with some astringency as well as a biting bitterness. The hop fruitiness is much more evenly matched with the other hop notes in the flavor and contributes notes of lychee, floral apricot, kumquat, tangelo and bright citrus oil flavors. Light bodied and quaffable this is a really nicely hopped pale ale that I could quaff quite a bit of on a warm day.

My biggest complaint about this beer is that it was excessively carbonated, but some vigorous swirling forced this to a manageable level pretty easily.

Gueuzedude, May 06, 2010
Photo of cpetrone84
3.1/5  rDev -18%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pour is a hazy golden amber with a tight slightly off white head. Nose has some pale malt coriander, a hint of dried orange peel and citrus. Taste has a fair bit if stale bread a d grain, hops are juicier and a bit resinous. The dried orange peel and citrus notes are present with a moderate bitterness on a lightly carbonated finish.

cpetrone84, Apr 27, 2010
Photo of BMoney575
2.75/5  rDev -27.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Sampled on 4-17-10

Pours a cloudy golden amber color with a thin white head and clingy lacing.

Smell is nicely sweet with a light hop aroma, citrusy and tart. Not overly complex, but enjoyable.

Taste is odd. Slightly sour malt followed by a sharp hop bitterness. The aftertaste is very bitter and lasts forever, which completely ruins the beer.

Mouthfeel is good, a pleasant thickness with sizable carbonation that adds to the tartness.

Drinkability is poor, mostly because of the strange and intense bitterness.

Overall, not particularly good.

BMoney575, Apr 17, 2010
Photo of jampics2
2.75/5  rDev -27.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12oz bottle bought as a single on a trip to Michigan. This beer was probably 2 mos old when sampled, so not teh freshest, but I was surprised at how old it tasted.

Looks nice - golden orange with little head.

Smell is off - oxidized and perhaps some popcorn.

Taste has some nice clean malt and a touch of hops, but it's also got some cherry cardboard thing too. A tad buttery.

Mouthfeel was carbed and sparkling. Drinkability was average.

jampics2, Mar 28, 2010
Photo of SpdKilz
3.8/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

New Beer Friday! A huge thanks for this beer from kzoobrew. Cheers buddy!

Appearance - Pours a slight hazy copper color into my SA Perfect Pint. About two fingers of fluffy white head with a vigorous pour which is beginning to leave nice looking lacing on the sides of the glass.

Smell - I get cooked celery, cabbage, dill, and other grassy smells with slight hops. That really is about all I'm getting here.

Taste - Now, this beer seems to be kind of a love/hate thing from looking at reviews. Honestly, I find the taste intriguing. I can definitely taste the cabbage in this, along with cooked carrots. There is a slight salty aftertaste like that reminiscent after having a dill pickle or sauerkraut (both of which I love). I have always been a very "bitter/sour" guy (aka I love cabbage, sauerkraut, pickles, mustard, etc - anything that has that bitterness to it) - thus, this beer which I feel incorporates a these type of vegetables/the style is not at all off putting to me. It is by NO means the worst bear, nor near the worst beer I've tried. With that said, I know what the average person likes, and I guarantee you the average BA would not like this. Oh well, I feel fortunate to try this! I wouldn't grab a six pack and sit down for a great session, but I sure wouldn't turn one of these down in the future. Actually, I'm going to go grab a pickle right now to pair with this to see how it goes.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied, decent carbonation.

Drinkability - Overall it's pretty drinkable - again, I wouldn't sit there and down a six pack, but honestly, I'd easily drink this again.

SpdKilz, Feb 20, 2010
Photo of tpd975
3.33/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Jale for bringing the whole short's lot to Sexual Chocolate for me.

A: Pours a nice golden hue with a tall white head. Pretty nice retention with beautiful lace all the way down the glass.

S: Cooked veggies and a lot of them. Light earth with grassy green herbal hops. Not real nice to be honest.

T: Light caramel and some grassy hops. Mild citrus, and thank god no steamed veggies.

M: Medium in body, good carbonation.

D: Not too bad just don't inhale this one. It's not real pleasant.

tpd975, Feb 17, 2010
Photo of knight84
3.63/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Coppery amber color with perfect clarity. Forms a lumpy froth of eggshell-while head that leaves copious lacing on the glass.
N: Herbal and piney hops present a nice bouquet, smells very sweet with a touch of warming alcohol. Hints of butterscotch and caramel in the back of the nose.
T: Has an interesting honey sweetness up front, followed by a nice burst of pine resin and herbal hops. Not terribly complex but the wet hop character is certainly interesting.
M: Carbonation is good but there is a 'wet' feel on the palate that pushes the carbonation to second chair. Leaves a slight stickyness at the end.
Overall a pretty drinkable beer, not the best representation of Short's, but not bad either.

knight84, Feb 08, 2010
Photo of DefenCorps
1.53/5  rDev -59.5%
look: 4 | smell: 1 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1

I got a bunch of Short's beers in a recent trade with schro126. Thanks, Nathan!

The pour is quite gorgeous, crystal clear golden orange with a dense white head that recedes pretty quickly, leaving little lace.

The nose is rather awful - cooked vegetable with a blend of spinach, cabbage and some citrus hops, some honey and some sugar. It brings to mind the Bud Clamato and Mamma Mia Pizza Beer.

The palate opens with a blend of solvent character, bitterness with grapefruit zest and the cooked vegetables of the nose. Quite harsh, this beer is medium-light in body with high carbonation, causing a prickly session that worsens the flavors and sensation. Drying on the finish with some bitterness, this just isn't very good, a drain pour for sure.

DefenCorps, Feb 08, 2010
Photo of Sammy
3.78/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Fresh batch from December. Pours creamy, very lacey and foaming over golden coloured body. Aroma of the wet hops, taste of the wet hops. Hoppy and good wet hop bitterness, without shredding the palate. Abv not listed, but feels in the 6-7% range. Very decent mouthfeel for an IPA, which it is rather than a pale.

Sammy, Feb 07, 2010
Photo of HopHead84
1.25/5  rDev -66.9%
look: 4 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1


Consumed in a snifter, the beer is dark orange with a standard beige head and standard retention.

The aroma is of buttery tomatoes, cabbage, cooked carrots, and a slight white peppery floral presence. This is...hmmm...like a grainy buttery vegetable stew. I mean no disrespect when I say this smells horrendous. It's a DMS and diacetyl bomb of an aroma.

The flavor is equally as bad. It's of cabbage, carrots, tomatoes, celery. Wow. This is simply terrible. It's a buttery vegetable garden.

Two drain pours in as many nights from the same brewery. I won't recover from this...

HopHead84, Feb 02, 2010
Photo of akorsak
3.68/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Telix for this 12 oz bottle.

A: The pale ale is a radiant golden color, clear as day except for the stream of carbonation. Not much head to report on in this beer.

S: The pale ale is mildly hopped, offering just a splash of concentrated bitterness. What the ale offers is a little bit of citrus, some grapefruit, and pepper. The leafiness is strong, leaving a lush vegetal aroma.

T: Mmm, the ale starts off sharp, with carbonation leaving a bite. Following that, the hops take over. First, a medicinal aspirin flavor emerges, followed by vegetal hops and citrus. As the hops settle down, caramel malts, biscuity, pick up the slack. Mild bitterness sees the ale away.

M: The mouthfeel is robust, to say the least. The vegetal fresh hop flavors are strong, off-putting even, but deliver a solid resiny presence.

D: The wetness of the hops is unmistakable, only with a much stronger vegetal presence. The ale takes a bit of time to get used to but it works.

akorsak, Jan 31, 2010
Photo of nickd717
2.8/5  rDev -25.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12oz bottle shared by bring on BA - thanks, Barry! largadeer was there and looking at his rating below, it seemed he really like this one.

Pours a hazy golden color with a small white head and decent lacing.

Aroma is rough fresh leafy and citrus hops and some very slight vegetal notes. Smells good, but hints at a little DMS.

Flavor is very vegetal with cooked corn and a little butter. Lots of DMS/diacetyl in this one. Leafy hops and sweet malt play a supporting role.

Medium bodied with a nice carbonation level. Mildly palate wrecking. Overall this was close to being a good beer, but the off-flavors really threw me.

nickd717, Jan 29, 2010
Short's Kind Ale from Short's Brewing Company
85 out of 100 based on 172 ratings.