Freedom Of '78 - Short's Brewing Company

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Reviews: 129
Hads: 466
rAvg: 4.08
pDev: 9.31%
Wants: 63
Gots: 52 | FT: 5
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Short's Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American IPA |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: surlytheduff on 12-16-2010

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Photo of Mitchster
3.89/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

$2.30 for a 12oz single @ Jacks. No ingredients listed on the website. A collaboration with Half Acre Beer Co in Chicago.

Pours out to a clear light amber forming a modest white head with average retention and sparse lacing. Mild carbonation. The aroma is sweet with spicy resinous hops with a touch of that skunky Amarillo and the mango of Centennial. Very nice. Sits on top of a sweet malt nose. Mouthfeel is soft and smooth with a medium body. The taste is very very good. I get the skunky MJ of Amarillo with a nice flash of white pepper (since they are going for the Ween thing here), and a touch of some acidic fruit...I dunno if it's Guava or not, but it lightens the body and adds a peculiar fruity sourness. The bitterness is a little sharp, above medium. The finish is dry. Aftertaste of grapefruit pith.

This is a decent IPA with some peculiar qualities. I might buy it again in a pinch. (900 characters)

Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.9/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle poured into a Sierra Nevada imperial pint. No date or info on the bottle.

Thanks to sweemzander for this bottle as well as, I THINK, Onenote81? Thanks to the other trade partner anyway!

A - Brilliant clarity allows the vibrant goldenrod brew to shine radiantly. A thick, dense, white finger-tall head caps the beer with good retention from steady carbonation and leaves thick webbing all over the glass.

S - Juicy, mouthwatering guava and grapefruit citrus fruit burst out of this beer for FREEDOMMM! Citrusy citra hops and faint mulchy, earthy Willamet hops overwhelm the pale base malt in this beer but there is still plenty of balance. Inviting and appetizing aroma!

T - The malt profile seems pretty far backed off from what's in the nose, providing little balance for the resiny pine and grapefruit citrus-rich hops. Citrusy, tangy guava is flavorful but thin and slick. Low earthy notes play around in this beer a bit.

M - Thin feeling and slick on the tongue, Freedom is sharply carbonated and has a unique guava finish that compliments the bitter hops. Medium-light-bodied.

D - I could smell this beer all day but the flavor is a stark drop-off in quality. Unique but lacking a malt profile to balance all the hops going on in here. Too thin and watery feeling. (1,288 characters)

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.92/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to mrbubbler for sharing this one at GRG1313’s tasting.

Pours a clear orange with a foamy white head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, guava, citrus, and weed aromas. Taste is much the same with guava and weed flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of hop bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer with some interesting aromas and flavors. (557 characters)

Photo of claminat420
3.93/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A- poured a hazy copper color with a nice frothy white head. medium lacing.

S- grapefruit hops dominate. what an ipa should be. not too crazy or over the top but good.

T- the bitterness is what an american ipa should be. the grapefruit hops come out alil but more of some piney notes hit ya unlike the smell. the guava doesn't hit you at first but once you drink this brew day after day the guava tends to be abit much.

M- medium bodied. good carbonation.

D- i hope my beer store has more of this!! once again tho.. great brew but after awhile the guava starts getting to you.

Overall- a solid ipa built for a guava lover. (628 characters)

Photo of EricCioe
3.93/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This pours a slightly hazy light copper orange with a one finger head, good retention, and nice lacing. On the nose there is a peculiar citrus flavor I'm not familiar with, which I'm guessing is the guava. A strange nose, quite different than the grapefruit/orange standard for the style. In the mouth there is a good deal of orange flavoring but there is a nuttiness underneath that, again, probably the guava. It's a medium bodied beer and the hop bitterness makes for a long finish, with some of that nuttiness carrying over also. This is a peculiar DIPA, the first unique one I've had in a while. I'm not sure how I feel about the guava, but it certainly is different and that's welcome in a world of grapefruit bombs. (722 characters)

Photo of andrewjraab
3.93/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up the LAST bottle at Copper Vine in Grandville. Poured in a SAPP glass.

Pours a golden amber with good clarity. Fluffy white head quickly dissipates. Decent lacing and stick to the glass.

Smells amazing - big citrus aroma, mixed with a sweet smell of caramel?

T - mouth watering citrus hop juiciness. Finishes with an off balanced bittersweet. Brown Sugar?

O - This was highly drinkable and I'm glad I got a chance to taste it. I wish I could have gotten my hands on more. This is an really solid collaboration and well done summer IPA. (550 characters)

Photo of SerialTicker
3.94/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottled on date is scratched away but this was bottled no more than three weeks ago, I know, so I'm not concerned about that. Poured into a Sam Adams Perfect Pint glass. Priced at Short's usual $2 for a single bottle.

Appearance: Reasonably hazy, and even more hazy if you get all the goodness from the bottom of the bottle into the glass. About a finger of a soapy head that dies down pretty quickly. A bit of patchy lacing. It looks alright. I tend to nit-pick -- I much prefer the look of a creamier head over a soapy one. Minor annoyance. The bottle itself looks quite a bit different from Short's other stylings, but it still stands out a bit, despite it being a mostly dark logo. Maybe the art was done by somebody over at Half Acre for this one? In any event, pretty decent looking all-around.

Smell: Yeah, guava. Smells really tropical as you'd expect. Guava/mango/peach aroma more so than a kind of pineapple. Not much else to mention as it really just smells tropical. I don't get earthiness or really any malt in the aroma.

Taste/feel: Mild/moderate carbonation with actually an unexpectedly quite thin mouthfeel.. that's the first thing I notice, and that's my biggest knock on Freedom of '78. The flavor follows up what was on the nose, with loads of guava and mango with only a slight bit of pine on the finish. Finishes pretty dry as well. Not nearly as bitter as many Short's IPAs seem to be either, which is a good change of pace.

Freedom of '78 is a good beer. It's relatively one-note with a guava/mango sort of flavor and aroma going on with only the slightest pine aftertaste, but it works. It's way too drinkable. It drinks like it'd be about 5% rather than 7%. Again, low sort of carbonation, but my only real problem with this beer is its mouthfeel... it could use a bit more heft. Regardless, this is a delicious IPA. (1,846 characters)

Photo of KDawg
3.95/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

poured from bottle into a pint glass. Pours an orange/gold color with a small head.

Succulent aromas of hops, citrus, navel oranges, guava, and a touch of florals.

Medium bodied with a lot of freshness to the flavors of guava, resin, hops, oranges and citrus. The feel is good, but slightly lacking a little bit on the mid.

This is a real fun IPA. Has the hop forward characteristics, but it isn't too overpowering. (420 characters)

Photo of Copernicandream
3.96/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a tulip. ~ 3 wks from bottling date.

A: Goldenrod / light copper color. One finger of fine soapy head that fades quickly, leaves a moderate amount of lacing on the glass as I drink.

S: Pure tropical fruit. Smells like the roadside juice stands in South America, guava, mango, papaya. Very "tropical." I get no banana or clove esters (a definite plus).

T: True to the nose up front, tropical guava-ness. A very mild malt balance in the middle that fades into some typical piney hop bitterness. There is a subtle something distasteful on the backend that lingers into the aftertaste - soapy peppercorn.

M: Relatively thin, moderate to upper level carbonation with significant amounts of fizzy rising bubbles. I would have hoped for a slightly thicker mouthfeel to coat the tongue and release more of those tropical notes.

O: Good but I can't rave. The guava smell is perfect. Absolutely incredible, but it doesn't translate perfectly to the taste. (982 characters)

Photo of buschbeer
3.96/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

12 fl. oz. bottle
Served in tulip glass

This beer pours amber in color with golden highlights. It is hazy and copped with a couple inches of off-white head.

It smells like grapefruit juice. There is a lot of citrus going on here.

The taste is loaded with grapefruit as well. Citrus flavor are right on par with my palate. Maybe a slight pine finish.

Moderate mouthfeel

For a long time I have heard how great Short's beers are. Until this point I would only consider Cup A Joe great from what I have had. I finally found a honey hole in Detroit and am getting to try some of the better seasonals versus the shelf sitters that I usually find in picked over stores. I am seeing the light, finally! This is a very good IPA. It fits my palate well. (748 characters)

Photo of beerhan
3.97/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a goblet. Some carbonation and a thin white head that leaves fairly quickly but some froth remains. A white lace lines the glass.

Smells very much like guava. It is very very present as well as lots of pine and some orange peel.

Oh wow taste is pretty insane. There is a nice prickly hop forward blast followed by lots of guava and citrus. Tastes very woody and carbonation is hidden but felt.

The alcohol is very hidden and overall this is pretty drinkable except for the fact that its a palate killer. Another unique brew from shorts. Not my favorite but a very nice change from your typical IPA. I can see the half acre influence on this one. (681 characters)

Photo of levifunk
3.97/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A gift from Alexander. Thanks bud.

a - pour is a light light golden color with minimal head.

s - big pine hops. fruity sweetness from the guava.

t - very interesting flavor. a pretty big hop bomb, but then there is a slightly tartness coming from the guava....but then there is also a sweetness from it. Its similar to Mango Mama for the fruity-sweet and hops combo. Not sure if that tartness really melds with the beer though.

m - lighter body with a bitter dry finish

overall - Short's has always been a let-down brewery for me, but this one was actually pretty good. (574 characters)

Photo of travMI13
3.97/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2012 vintage. 12 oz. bottle poured into a large, tall tulip.

A: Pours a nice, deep goldenrod orange with a slight haze and with a finger of fluffy white head. The head dissipates fairly quickly, leaving some lacing behind. A decent amount of sediment is floating around near the bottom of this glass.

S: Musty funky fruit mixed in with a healthy dose of both citrusy and earthy hops. Something is kind of off-putting about the nose, but there is something very intriguing about it as well.

T: A healthy dose of that musty and funky fruit flavor hits you first, but it is brought up nicely by both the citrusy and bitter hops on the back end. The earthy notes almost remind me of some type of bread, except unlike with most Belgian-style ales, it is pretty bitter. Easily the most interesting IPA I have ever had, and incredibly tough to describe.

M: This beer is silky smooth on the palate with a nice lingering juiciness. The guava gives this beer a nice juicy mouthfeel that many IPA's just don't have.

O: This is one of the most unique IPA's that I have ever had. So many unique flavors that I have never had in an IPA, or any beer for that matter, before, and that makes it very difficult to review. This beer is not for everyone. It, however, is a very well-executed IPA from Short's, and I will pick up a few bottles any time it is released. (1,352 characters)

Photo of MacQ32
3.99/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks Boilermakerryan for this one!

A - Pours a bright orange, somewhat hazy but very vibrant in color. Decent near white/light tan half finger head, retention is so so, lacing is fantastic!

S - Smells fantastic, pine and a pretty hefty caramel malt aroma. Mild grainy aromas.

T - Lots of APA fruity flavors - apples/pears, mildly bitter pine flavor, slightly peppery and grainy with a fantastic sweetness at the finish. Not very bold, a little too weak imo - bottled about 2 months ago so perhaps past its prime.

M - Light bodied, super refreshing, appropriate/slightly light carbonation.

O - Pretty decent, very refreshing, just not very bitter/hoppy (658 characters)

Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to RBlaszak for sending this bottle my way.

The beer pours an orange color with a white head. The aroma is very fruity. I get a lot of guava as well as some papaya and apricot. The aroma is very interesting overall.

The flavor is fruity, but what really stands out is how dry the beer is. The fruit is guava and some other tropical fruit such as papaya and mango. Low bitterness. The flavor is also a little bit tangy. Once again, very interesting.

Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

A unique take on an IPA. Bravo. (535 characters)

Photo of nkersten
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I was totally unaware that Short's bottled a version of this as well - Thanks to Erik for sending me one of these! Poured into pint glass, color is a slightly hazy apricot golden with a one finger white head that leaves a good amount of lacing. Smell is a lot different from the Half Acre version - much spicier, lots of fruity hops, bread dough, and a slight malt sweetness in the background. Taste is similar, but much fruitier. Guava stands out in a big way, tropical fruit hops, bread crust maltiness, bitter aftertaste. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with a medium/light carbonation, slightly coating and semi dry. Overall a great beer. I prefer the half acre version to this, but it is always fun to taste the regional differences in ingredients. Hopefully each brewery will brew this again next time Ween is in town. (819 characters)

Photo of Sammy
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Slightly orange fruity coloured with loads of white foam that later leaves a lace trail. Very floral citrus hops,and remarkably the fresh guava. Still, smells like an IPA. Very smooth mouthfeel, the guava flavour is pronounced and dominates though it does not overpower, and is blended with hop oils. Hop bitterness blast in the sediment. Very drinkable and a good one.Bottle from Steve. This was cellared somewhat and would not be as appreciated by pure hopheads. Certainly reminds me of CC Guava Grove. (504 characters)

Photo of Kegatron
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle into a tulip glass. Thanks go to Stakem for splitting this one with me!

Pours a clear copper, with a thin covering of bright-white foamy head. This maintains a nice robust look, leaving back a rich foamy cascade that hangs in thick swathes down the sides of the glass. The guava is fairly forward here in the nose, with what I can only describe as a grassy or herbal juiciness in the nose. More floral and peppery tones give this some airiness in the nose, whiles sugary malts provide some tangy supportive sweetness in the nostrils.

The taste is bitter with green pith, spice, and herbal tones, which is then backed by the earthy juiciness of the guava and sweeter notes of bread and caramel from the malts. Raw bitternessand earthy fruit really sticks to the tongue and lingers for a good bit in the finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, with a firm crispness that is carried along by a good bit of underlying oily slickness that keeps this staying smooth in the mouth.

While I didn't get to enjoy this as fresh as I did the Half Acre version last summer, I could still definitely tell that, unlike that version, this Short's take seemed to favor more of the hop character over the guava addition, which was more of a supporting force here. I liked that this brought a little something different to the table than the Half Acre version did. Solid. (1,370 characters)

Photo of TheSevenDuffs
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Peter for this one. Dated 03/30/12, so about 5 months old. Will keep that in mind. Poured in to tulip.

A - Dark yellow with a tinge of amber and a small layer of off-white head.

S - A huge guava aroma up front with some lighter peach notes present. The bitterness seems as expected given the freshness and a touch of sweetness is evident in the background.

T - A fairly prominent bitterness up front, which is welcome given the freshness. A massive guava flavour is present, which compliments the bitterness well. The malt base, and perhaps the guava as well, contribute a sweetness that is a little too prominent but I would image that when fresh, this balance would be quite a bit different. The guava takes centre stage here, as advertised.

M - Medium body. Light carbonation. (795 characters)

Photo of gnemesis
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle from 2010 poured into wine glass.
Pours amber mixed with orange, topped with a small white head. Dissipates quickly and not much in the way of lacing (wine glass perhaps?). I immediately pick up the citrus and some hits of guava in the nose. The hops are present but mingled with a touch of honey. The taste follows but the guava is more pronounced and mixes well with the citrusy bitterness from the hops involved. The sweet fruitiness of the guava and the touch of honey keep the bitterness from overwhelming this tasty brew. Medium body and a perfect amount of carbonation in this one. It doesn't finish as dry as some IPAs do. I liked this a lot and have already purchased more. Even better- the girlfriend loves it. Would be great nice and cold on a hot summer day. (782 characters)

Photo of womencantsail
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Steve for this one.

A: The beer pours a slightly hazy amber color with two fingers of white head.

S: Smells quite a bit like guava, fortunately. Some citrus hops and other sweet fruits with a very strong perfume hop note. A mild sweetness of malt and a definite grapefruit and pine aroma.

T: Very perfumey and floral on the palate as well. A moderate fruit/guava flavor, but a bit more towards the grapefruit zest side of things. Some sweet bread and toffee malts, as well. A moderate bitterness.

M: Medium bodied with medium carbonation.

O: Still a nice fruit flavor to this with a nice citrus hop component. (624 characters)

Photo of stakem
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Since having Half Acre's version of this collab via a growler that Kegatron shared with me, I've been wanting to try shorts take on it. Thanks to cmurren25 for making that happen by giving me a bottle.

Poured into a sniffer, this brew appears an orange copper color with a creamy cap of white froth that is stained with a hint of yellow coloration. The slow receding of the head produces a webbing of lacework on the glass. A swirl revives the creamy froth of yellowish head back to nearly a finger's strength.

The aroma is tangy with fruit. By now having been exposed to guava on more than one occasion I can without hesitation proclaim that I smell the guava's contribution to this brew's aroma. It smells fruity with a very earthy/grassy character that is also lightly peppery. A mellow sweetness is pleasant and the hops are present but a bit faded at this point.

The taste is herbal with a spiced aspect that mellows out with more sips. The alcohol also contributes a spicy accent. There is quite a modest bitterness that is clingy and oily on the tongue. A bit of a mango fruity flavor is present before turning grassy and herbal with the bitterness. It leaves a flavor of grapefruit rind inside the mouth that is citrusy and resinous.

This is a medium bodied brew with modest carbonation. Easy drinking but quite herbal and clingy with a lasting effect. The alcohol is evident in both flavor and warming factor but it's not distracting, it plays a good role in melding the transition of fruity sweetness to herbal bitterness. Not bad, my only complaint is not getting to have both brewery's offerings on the same playing field of freshness. (1,652 characters)

Photo of webmanspidey
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into a pint glass. This is a golden copper color with a decent half inch of head. Smell is a nice mix of citrus-hops and guava, making for an interesting balance. Taste is crisp mix of hops and guava, well balanced between the bitterness of the hops and sweetness of the guava. This is like a tropical take on an IPA, something you can imagine sipping outside in the summer. Excellent drinkability. (412 characters)

Photo of pmoore311
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle on 12/23/10

Appearance - fantastic copper color, white head, and some nice lacing on the glass

Smell - this is where this beer really stood out for me, awesome scent of tropical fruit, you can really smell the guava, and piney hops.

Taste - this is a very unique IPA, tropical fruits shine through with an almost pine like aftertaste and dry finish, very tasty indeed, and unlike any IPA I have had before.

Mouthfeel - fantastic bubbles that compliment the style.

Drinkability - I could easily drink many of these in one session, the tropical fruit and hops are not overly ruinous on the pallete.

Overall this is a truly unique take on the style, and something I hope these breweries continue to brew. Truly great collaboration. (760 characters)

Photo of hopfacebrew
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Note: This review was a re-post from my former account, jmkratt, which was hacked and I lost all my reviews...sorry for the redundancy.

Got this as an extra in a trade from my man jopl! Thanks again man!

Poured from a 12oz bottle to a pint glass.

A - Beer poured a slightly hazy orange/amber color with a 1 finger perfectly white head that seemed to slowly fade down to a thin film on the surface with nice lacing.

S - The beer has a nice strong citrus hops aroma mixed with an almost sour fruit tone.

T/M - Interesting flavor. Starts out right where the nose left off with a strong citrus grapefruit hop aroma and a slight sour tone. Then immediately the over powering tart guava fruit flavors meld with a slight malt undertone. The beer finishes crisp and tart.

D - Drinkable beer.

Overall, this is the one of the most interesting IPA's I've ever had and it was a pleasure to have. It's unsual to find such tart flavors to match the bitterness of an IPA.

Serving type: bottle

Reviewed on: 01-26-2011 03:29:39 (1,019 characters)

Freedom Of '78 from Short's Brewing Company
91 out of 100 based on 129 ratings.