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Freedom Of '78 - Short's Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
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390 Ratings
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Ratings: 390
Reviews: 119
rAvg: 4.07
pDev: 11.06%
Wants: 53
Gots: 33 | FT: 3
Brewed by:
Short's Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American IPA |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: surlytheduff on 12-16-2010)
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Photo of Pellinore1
3.58/5  rDev -12%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to kdub87 for this bottle.

Pours clear orange into a pint glass, producing two fingers of just barely off-white head. This fades gently, settling into a thin cap.

One moment I think I smell a classic IPA, citrus hops with a touch of pine, then I am sniffing a glass of tropical fruit juice. Very interesting aroma here, and quite pleasant.

I don't think the flavors come together quite as well as the smell does. Again we have hops and tropical fruit, but I almost feel like the hop bitterness is fighting the sweetness, rather than complementing it. Certainly not bad, but it seems a little messy.

Light to medium body, with nice carbonation, this is a pleasant feeling beer.

Drinkability is fine, just limited a bit by the unusual flavors. One is good, but I'd prefer to follow it with a more traditional IPA.

Pellinore1, Jan 24, 2011
Photo of SuperNova777
4.33/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanx to AlleyKatKing

A:Poured a hazy orange color with a nice white head, moderate lacing is left down the glass

S:Citrus and tropical hops come thru the nose with a slight caramel backbone as well

T:Same as the nose with citrus hops come thru first with some caramel malt in the middle, the only thing different would be the guava taste that came thru on the back. Very interesting

M:Pretty nice body all together with hops and guava hanging around on the palate

D:This ended up being really easy to drink with some interesting taste to go along with it. Guava taste kinda thru me off but was very delightful. Would definitly drink this again

SuperNova777, Jan 20, 2011
Photo of StoutHunter
4.43/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I picked up a single of this at the store the other day since I haven't seen this beer around before and it's ratings were pretty good, so I decided to give this brew a try. The idea of a fruit infused IPA intrigues me. Poured from a 12oz brown bottle into a ping glass.

A- I like the label art on this beer, looks nicer and different then the other shorts labels. This beer poured a nice golden orange color with two and a half fingers worth of fluffy white head that died down to a thing ring that left some lacing.

S- The aroma of this beer is utterly dominated by tons of citrus hops. I pick up tons of grapefruit along with some guava, as advertised.

T- The taste is that of a fruit basket that is filled with half citrus fruits and half tropical fruits, topped with a whole bunch of hop cones. The guava sticks out nicely in this brew along with some grapefruit and mango. There is a nice light malt back bone that helps tie everything together. There was a nice bitter bite at the end that went great with the all the fruit flavors in this beer.

M- Medium bodied with good carbonation and a crisp finish.

D- The alcohol is hidden very well in the brew, along with all the nice flavors and great balance. If I had two more I would drink both of them.

Overall I thought this was one awesome and different IPA. I really never thought about a fruit infused IPA, but after drinking this one I think it's an avenue more brewery's should explore. This was my first collaboration beer and it's an idea that I think is pretty cool. Great job shorts, you guys steady blow my mind.

StoutHunter, Jan 19, 2011
Photo of alcstradamus
3.03/5  rDev -25.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours a clear golden orange with two fingers of thick head and lots of lacing.

The aroma is grapefruit and watermelon rind with a bit of earth and pine. Very clean.

The flavor is surprisingly lacking much hop character. A bit of an empty bitterness and some earthy nutty malt. Almost watery.

The body is light and carbonation is high. Overall this beer just doesn't have much going for it outside of the wonderful aroma, which does not translate into the flavor profile at all.

alcstradamus, Jan 18, 2011
Photo of alleykatking
4.2/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 12oz bottle.

A- Pours a hazed golden orange color. One finger white head shows light retention. Spotty lacing on the sides of the glass when I drink this one down.

S- Nice big citrus aroma in the front of this with also a fresh grapefuit undertone to the hops. The malt backing in the aroma is sweet and caramel like. The guava come in the backing which I thought would be a little more in the front

T- Guava comes straight off the get go. The fruit in this beer just shines and I like it. Light malt backing in the middle follows to the end which is another blast of guava juice. Inbetween the guava there is a lot of hops exploding on the palate. Citrus and grapefruit are the key hop flavors I taste.

M- Medium mouthfeel. Carbonation is good for the style. Guava and citrus hops left on the palate. Big dose of guava juice in the aftertaste with a short alcohol burst. Medium drying on the palate from the alcohol. Flavors were well blended for the style. No off flavors were present at all.

D- This was a very good drinking beer. The alcohol doesn't show up at all which lends to the drinkability. Short's always impresses me with their beers and this one is no exception. Nice job with their version. Half Acre's version I thought was a little more flavorful in certain aspects but still a great beer.

alleykatking, Jan 18, 2011
Photo of Gorgoroth
4.6/5  rDev +13%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Purchased for $1.99 at Peter's Imports in Grandville. Shared with BA mermatinger, from notes taken on 01/14/11.

Presentation: Typical layout for a Short's label -- bright colors and missing key information, heh -- but this is evidently a different artist than the one who normally does the painting for Short's. After some investigation, I found a bottled-on date of 11/24/10 on the glass of the bottle.

Appearance: Pours into my 24oz oversize snifter a deep gold with amber tinge, sparse but vigorous carbonation, very large bubbles which die down a bit after a minute or so. A frothy, dense white head blossoms unevenly and quickly dissipates to an uneven ring with a small rocky island in the middle and light, soapy film swirled around the whole surface.

Smell: Lots of fresh, citrusy hops hit the nose and, of course, guava. Other sweet tropical fruit and grapefruit are evident and almost overtake the hoppiness.

Taste: The taste is an incredible assault of hops and tropical fruit. Citrusy, zesty, oily hop bitterness is balanced and foiled by sweet and citrusy-bitter tropical fruit (grapefruit, guava, papaya, lime) with an underlying sour, lemony tang. In a way, it tastes like drinking a perfect mix of fresh IPA and grapefruit juice.

Mouthfeel: The body is medium and crisp while the carbonation is very light. There is a juicy, mouth-watering sourness played against a bitter tang while a dry bitterness lingers on the palate but does not overpower. Tangy, citrusy bitterness remains, like after taking a big swig of fresh grapefruit juice.

Drinkability & Final Thoughts: This is one damn drinkable beer. It is complex and bitter but also sweet and tangy. the sweetness is not overwhelming or cloying, but rather balanced perfectly with bitterness and dryness. Very delicious, and it would be so perfect and refreshing in the hot summer months -- I truly hope I can find a bottle that taste as fresh as this come June or July! It's awesome to see a great Michigan brewery with limited distribution team up with a great Chicago brewery also of limited distribution, and produce such a great beer. This beer is a perfect balance of an amazingly well-made, straightforward style -- American IPA -- with a bit of signature experimentation provided by these forward-thinking brewers. I don't know if there are many other IPAs brewed with fruit, but if they're half as good as this one, they're worth a try. This one gets a huge stamp of approval from me (and I've already had a couple more since this review). I hope to keep seeing this beer around because a two bucks, I'll keep buying and drinking!

Gorgoroth, Jan 17, 2011
Photo of brew3crew
4.93/5  rDev +21.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A-Hazy orange in color. Nice head that dissipated halfway through
S-The guava stands out right away and you can smell it when you step into the room, great smell
T-A lot of bitter hops. Great combination of bitter and sweetness.
M-Very smooth and clean finish.
D-ridiculously drinkable. Dangerous almost

This is prolly the best IPA I have ever had.

brew3crew, Jan 17, 2011
Photo of ColdPoncho
4.45/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - body is a very nice orange color, hard to see through, with a sizable frothy white head.

S - You can smell the guava from feet away. That's complimented nicely by citrus and piney hops.

T - strong hops up front, mostly grapefruit, and then a touch of guava sweetness on the back. bitterness lingers in the aftertaste. Really well balanced, nothing too fancy.

M - a good body, not hugely robust, but not thin, somewhere in the middle. It's hard to keep this in my mouth long enough to figure it out. I wouldn't call it creamy, but its good.

D - I think this is crazy drinkable. It tastes great, and isn't too big or anything.

ColdPoncho, Jan 16, 2011
Photo of shivtim
3.23/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Picked up a bottle of this while visiting Northern Michigan. I'm always interested in collaborations.

Poured out into a pint glass. It's mostly clear orange/yellow. Medium sized off-white head. Visible carbonation.

The nose is a wonderful fruity hop blast. The guava really comes through. Pure and tropical. Pine resin.

Taste is a bit awkward. While the tropical/hops combo worked very well on the nose, it's a bit weird on the palate. Strong grassy hops and sticky sour guava mingle tenuously. Interesting, but not really successful.

Solid mouthfeel, but I just can't get over the weird intersecting flavors. I don't think guava was meant for beer.

shivtim, Jan 13, 2011
Photo of jrallen34
4.05/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle drank in my Orval glas...A clear gold, decent carbonation...Sweet aroma of pineapple, mango, a touch of the guava, less than the Half acre...Taste starts off like fruit juice, acidic, a bite, and finally a little hops. The more you drink the hops come through. Not the best ipa but decent and worth a try.

jrallen34, Jan 13, 2011
Photo of cosmicevan
3.6/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to gnemesis for filling my mailbox with shorts beers this evening. This was my second taste from the box.

a-Poured a foggy orange with a frothy white head that left milkshake-like trails on the glass.

s-Very bittery hops. Sweet guava, almost smells like papaya juice. Very grapefruit forward too, super tart.

t-Overly bittered hop flavor. Drinkable but pretty intense. Candied guava and grapefruit is there, but mostly leads with the hops. I like a bit more balance.

m/d-Cooling, but extremely bitter. Nice carbonation and not too thick. Rich in flavor, easy to drink. I would prefer a bit less bitterness but enjoyable.

cosmicevan, Jan 13, 2011
Photo of GRPunk
4.18/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into a Duvel tulip.

A- A normal pour left a 1-finger, off-white head that drops to a bubbly, thin film a little too quickly. The body is a hazed, golden-peach color with light carbonation. There are great sticky spots left all over the glass. The head development and retention is my only concern on this one.

S- Throughout I picked up a lot of tropical fruit mixed with lighter, earthy hops. It isn't overly complex, but interesting all the same.

T- Quite interesting. Grapefruit hops hit me up front, tropical fruits came in through the middle, and more hops clean up and dry (bone dry really) the finish. Pleasantly sweet, grainy (cereal-like) malts come out a little later. Hopping also has an herbal flavor at points.

M- It's quite clean compared to the visual with moderate viscosity. Lightly carbonated with a solid tingle from the significant hops.

D- Quite good, especially for a fruited beer. Hops balance the sweet flavors to make this more than a one-and-done (though not a session drinker). It's definitely something I'd suggest to a friend looking for a unique IPA.

GRPunk, Jan 09, 2011
Photo of Onenote81
3.75/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Huge thanks to browna71 (Alex) for a sixer of this fine brew in a recent trade! 12oz bottle poured into a chalice.

Pours a faintly hazy dark copper/orange with a thin half-finger width white head on top. Some spotty lace clings to the glass. The nose is bursting with scents of fresh-squeezed oranges, pineapple, guava. Slightly peppery, with a faint alcohol singe on the back end.

Good full-bodied IPA with plenty of carbonation zip. There's plenty of bitter hops to go around with this beer, but my overall impression is pepper and spices. I expected more of a fruity-tasting IPA, but this one is herbal, earthy, and spicy. Part of this reminds me of Saison Du BUFF (any version) with the herbal notes, but it is definitively an IPA. Some citrus sweetness rounds it out, and there's a crisp bitter finish. As far as drinkability is concerned, the spiciness may wear on me after awhile, but it is a pleasure to sip one. A good bitter beer that will cure my hop-fix any day.

Onenote81, Jan 07, 2011
Photo of nkersten
4/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I was totally unaware that Short's bottled a version of this as well - Thanks to Erik for sending me one of these! Poured into pint glass, color is a slightly hazy apricot golden with a one finger white head that leaves a good amount of lacing. Smell is a lot different from the Half Acre version - much spicier, lots of fruity hops, bread dough, and a slight malt sweetness in the background. Taste is similar, but much fruitier. Guava stands out in a big way, tropical fruit hops, bread crust maltiness, bitter aftertaste. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with a medium/light carbonation, slightly coating and semi dry. Overall a great beer. I prefer the half acre version to this, but it is always fun to taste the regional differences in ingredients. Hopefully each brewery will brew this again next time Ween is in town.

nkersten, Jan 06, 2011
Photo of claminat420
3.93/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A- poured a hazy copper color with a nice frothy white head. medium lacing.

S- grapefruit hops dominate. what an ipa should be. not too crazy or over the top but good.

T- the bitterness is what an american ipa should be. the grapefruit hops come out alil but more of some piney notes hit ya unlike the smell. the guava doesn't hit you at first but once you drink this brew day after day the guava tends to be abit much.

M- medium bodied. good carbonation.

D- i hope my beer store has more of this!! once again tho.. great brew but after awhile the guava starts getting to you.

Overall- a solid ipa built for a guava lover.

claminat420, Jan 03, 2011
Photo of nickadams2
4.33/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A_Pours amber/gold in body with a frothy bone white head. Splotches of lacing cling to the glass.

S_Pungent hops,grapefruit and the guava is pretty noticeable.

T_Same as nose. Good combination of bitter and sweet. The guava is fairly easy to pick up and pairs well with pine and citrus flavors of the hops. Overall pretty damn hoppy.

M_Mouthfeel is a little thin,slick and sticky on the lips.

D_Very enjoyable. I've been finishing these fairly quickly.

nickadams2, Jan 03, 2011
Photo of zoso1967
4.08/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a peachy light amber color without much of a head at all. What little head this beer possesses is pure white. This brew leaves a tiny amount of lace, but nothing too spectacular.

The aroma is super fruity with tons of tropical notes. It smells like grapefruit and pine mixed with what I am assuming is guava and some sugary malt. This beer has an amazingly fresh aroma to it and while it is familiar, it is also quite unique.

The flavor is also very potent and fresh. Grapefruit, orange, pine, tropical fruit and guava mix together to make a very tart explosion of acidic flavors. The malt has a bit of a caramel character to it, but is mostly just sweet. My biggest complaint with this beer is that it seems a bit too bitter and the bitterness manifests itself in a very harsh and sharp matter.

The body is medium and the mouthfeel is a bit on the sticky-icky side. It finishes so dry and tart acidic fruits linger long on my palate. This is perhaps contributed to from the very low carbonation.

I think this would be a bit more drinkable if it was a little less bitter, or the bitterness was a bit smoother. Don't get me wrong, this is a pretty tasty beer, but for me it misses the mark in a couple places. Definitely worth trying out.

zoso1967, Jan 03, 2011
Photo of nrbw23
4.18/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A- Pours a slightly hazy golden amber color with a fairly thin white head. Head has good retention, forms a layer of bubbles on the top and leaves some spotty lacing.

S- The aroma of this beer is like no other IPA. Tons of tropical fruits, a bit of pine and caramel malts too. The guava is pretty crazy smelling and outstanding.

T- Again this is completly different than most IPAs. Tropical fruits are no joke and up in your face. A bit of pine and a good malt back bone. There also seems to be some sort of spice here too that I can't make out. Very good and different at the same time.

M- Medium in body and carbonation.

D- This is a very interesting brew and incredibly easy to drink.

nrbw23, Jan 02, 2011
Photo of david131
4.43/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- An ever so slightly hazy bright orange liquid with a creamy white head that has some pretty good retention.

S- Guava, honey, pine, citrus, and mint. Very aromatic. Stunning.

T- Guava, pine, mint, and some citrus. There is enough sweetness to keep the bitterness from becoming overbearing. Unique and very tasty.

M- The body has some bite to it, both from the bitterness and carbonation. The finish is a tad oily and mostly dry.

D- A delicious take on an IPA. Very enjoyable.

david131, Jan 01, 2011
Photo of cadaugherty
4.43/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served in Stone IPA glass- thanks kzoobrew for the chance to try the other version.

Appearance- Slightly cloudy copper, 3 fingers of off-white head. Great lacing.

Aroma- Wow the guava just pops with a lovely sweetness. The hops are there too but that fruit is front and center.

Taste- Fruit juice with a slightly bitter finish. The guava really is the centerpiece here (as it should be), and you can almost feel the rind in your mouth. There is some taste here that is reminding me of something I drank as a kid, can't put my finger on it though.

Mouth- Nice. Good carbonation not too thick or thin.

Drink- I mean seriously you can put this down like fruit juice. I feel like they hit exactly what they wanted to here and I am not complaining. I can't find my notes on the Half Acre version but I am certain that I like this one better.

cadaugherty, Dec 30, 2010
Photo of masey222
4.45/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 5

Pours a slightly cloudy golden pee color not to different from a macro american pilsner with a small to non existant head and a good lacing all the way down...
It smells of the guava and mellon like sugars, delicious to me, with a tinge of really sweet floral hop...
god, it doesn't taste like anything I have ever had, the guava really comes through in the beginning with a really rich sweetness then as you swallow the hop comes through and dries out the palate and leaves a really nice and dry floral IPA taste in your mouth, all and all the beer is very well balanced and interesting to drink, an adventure in every sip...
It has a light carbonation that isn't abrasive and is crisp which really adds to the flavor and over all drink of the beer but the consistency is like tonic so a little thin for me...
It drinks well and is a very intriguing one of my more preferred fruit beers thus far.

masey222, Dec 29, 2010
Photo of webmanspidey
4.43/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle poured into a pint glass. This is a golden copper color with a decent half inch of head. Smell is a nice mix of citrus-hops and guava, making for an interesting balance. Taste is crisp mix of hops and guava, well balanced between the bitterness of the hops and sweetness of the guava. This is like a tropical take on an IPA, something you can imagine sipping outside in the summer. Excellent drinkability.

webmanspidey, Dec 27, 2010
Photo of malty
3.13/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a semi-cloudy dirty gold color with a loose and settled 1/4" off-white head. Even though I can see through the liquid, there is no visible uprising carbonation whatsoever. Lots of smattered splotches of sticky lace all the way down.

Evenly balanced tropical fruits are very up front. Because I'm not acquainted with the precise smell of Guava, and this IPA is made with pure guava, I'll conceed that it smells exactly like guava. This fruitiness, mixed with the earthy prevailing hoppy notes, eminates a sensual female odor.

A funky, fruity and hoppy combination greets the palate with a white peppery lining. An interesting salty undercurrent finishes this peculilar and flavorful experience. Another gulp or two and I perceive more of a pronounced salt and pepper backdrop. This is a very perplexing melding of flavors here.

Mouthfeel is almost medium bodied with a cask-like texture. Not a lot of carbonation, but what's there is prickly and welcomed.

Drinkability is okay. I'm trying to keep an open mind while drinking this, but mind is somewhat reeling from these odd and quirky flavors.

To say Shorts is 'at it again' is an understatement. I get the fruit and hop combo, but this salt and pepper element is downright interesting. I can't say I'd run out and buy more, but I would try it on tap. The smell on this thing is fun and funky. Good job on an interesting fruity tweak on an American IPA.

malty, Dec 26, 2010
Photo of sculls65
4.43/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a golden, almost light amber, with a white sticky head that laces down the glass. There is just a hint of haze peering through it. The smell is wonderful..tropical guava, pineapple, grapefruit and floral hops dominate. Taste is hop forward with grapefruit first untill the guava sweetens midway followed by pine. The malt bill is present but in the background nicely. Mouthfeel is fine with a dry finish. Very refreshing and drinkable.

sculls65, Dec 26, 2010
Photo of MasterSki
4.3/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

This review is going to be largely lifted from my review Half Acre version, with only minor changes to highlight differences. Served in a Goose Island taster pint glass.

A - Pours with a finger and a half of soapy white foam that settles to a thin cap and leaves spotty lace. Body is a lightly hazed transparent golden color.

S - I find the Short's version to have far more grapefruit and citrus character. The guava is more of a supporting flavor that imparts a bit of fruity muskiness. There's a bit of light sugary malt in the periphery.

T - Tastes like guava juice. No, really. Starts with fruit juice flavors, and ends like juice - slightly bitter and acetic. As I drink more, I get some hop flavor coming through with citrus zest, but there's almost negligible malt character - perhaps a touch of sugar in the finish as it warms up. Strangely compelling.

M - Very juicy, with low carbonation, and a sticky finish. Could use a bit more dryness.

D - Absolutely crushable. I went through my 6oz in under five minutes. Hope Short's makes this in the summer, or Half Acre puts it into cans, as it's really refreshing. I think the Short's version is a mild improvement - I'm guessing they learned from Half Acre's attempt and subsequent challenges.

MasterSki, Dec 26, 2010
Freedom Of '78 from Short's Brewing Company
91 out of 100 based on 390 ratings.