Freedom Of '78 - Short's Brewing Company

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392 Ratings
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Ratings: 392
Reviews: 119
rAvg: 4.07
pDev: 11.06%
Wants: 52
Gots: 32 | FT: 3
Brewed by:
Short's Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American IPA |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: surlytheduff on 12-16-2010)
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3.76/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Sampled from a 12oz bottle in a tulip pint glass. Thanks surge1311!

A - Golden and extremely clear with a small white head that dissipates quickly. A slow but steady rise of small bubbles.

S - Guava, huge at first but then more subtle, with hints of tangerine and pineapple.

T - Follows the smell with guava and tropical fruits. Crisp with a mild bitterness. It's an odd combination but it gets you. I found myself wavering between "that's just too much" and "wow, I like that".

M - Thin with a mild carbonation.

O - An interesting combination of flavors. Not an everyday beer but well worth a try.

Photo of minterro
3.78/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bought from Spartan Spirits a long time ago.

Had this rating on my comp for some time forgot to post it.

A&S: Very strong sweet smelling (smells like guava), which balances nicely with a citrus hoppyness. Cloudy orange colored beer, with unfiltered elements. Thin fizzy white head that fizzles out quickly.

T&M: Very sweet (guava) upfront, fades to sour midway through. The classic IPA bitterness comes through late. Medium bodied that feels pretty coarse, low to medium amounts of carbonation.

O: Highly drinkable, but I feel like I got sick of it midway though the bottle. I thought this was a nice take on the IPA.

Photo of Thorpe429
3.78/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reviewed from notes.

Pours a clear golden color with a good white head and some nice rings of lacing on the way down. The nose powers through with a strong scent of guava along with some tropical fruits. A bit of mango and general fruity sweetness. Very interesting. The flavor doesn’t work quite as well, as the guava comes out of balance with the hops, though there’s still some citrus and mango in the background. The guava adds a bit of acidity, which is actually quite pleasing. Dry and bitter in the feel. A very solid effort.

Photo of SportsandJorts
3.79/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: a deep orange with decent clarity. small white head that leaves a little bit of a lacing

Smell: very fruity, citrus and tropical fruits, noticeable guava nectar. the hoppiness is noticeable too

Taste: again very fruit, citrusy hops with notes of tropical fruits and guava nectar. not quite as balanced as i would like. a little touch of sourness in a slightly off way

Mouthfeel: a strong bitterness that i did not quite expect, pretty sticky, not as refreshing as id hope for

Overall: definitely an interesting and tasty take on an ipa but just not quite as good as i'd hope for form shorts and undershot my expectations.

Photo of FosterJM
3.83/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

1233rd Review on BA
Bottle to Pint
12 oz

Thanks to ErikKoppin for this one

App- A standard IPA color with a ton of bubbles and floaties in the bottom. A small white 1/2" head with zero cling. Pretty normal looking really.

Smell- A bit of a candy sugar aroma with a pungent fruit aroma. Had a lot of bitter pine and resin behind the nose. Has that undeniable Shorts yeast aroma.

Taste- Now thats's guava. I appreciate the fact they say its an IPA with Guava. Very fruit forward with like the nose a good blend of piney resin. Still has like the nose as well that Shorts specific flavor. It's to me a very unique IPA. You get many flavors behind it but none quite dominate. The guava is a bit sweet with the hops being a bit bitter.

Mouth- A medium body with a lot of Guava and resin on the residual flavor with a semi flat and low bubble carbonation.

Drink- Undeniably shorts. Tasty, semi balanced and sweet. Couldve been a touch better but I enjoyed it. Would like to see it a bit more thin.

Photo of CrellMoset
3.83/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle courtesy of Alexander. The last in a trio of great IPAs/DIPAs this generous midwestern trader sent along to me, all consumed as quickly as possible for maximum freshness. Poured in to a cervoise.

Appearance: An attractive penny tangerine, sandy and well toned, moderately hazed but not enough to hide a great deal of quick moving effervescence. Head retention and lacing are above average - the full finger of ecru head fades in to a half finger and then a quarter, though never fades completely, replenished continually by the mercurial carbonation. The lacing is blotchy, sticky but also runny in spots, leaving wispy patterns strewn along the sides of the cervoise.

Aroma: Incredibly fruity, though not sappy or sticky or saccharine-like. The guava definitely dominates, mingling with a hop profile that seems more minty and leafy than fruity, though I suppose that works in a complimentary way - why double down when you can diversify. The malt foundation is simple, crackery, or perhaps gingersnap-like, providing balance but not detracting from the (completely nonastringent) hops and the (surprisingly dry) fruit notes.

Taste: An interesting flavor profile. Don't ever let it be said that Short's didn't know when to kick you in the teeth with some additive (no one would ever say that, I don't think). Famous for throwing weird stuff in their beer and making sure you know they've thrown weird stuff in their beer as soon as you sip it, this one is no different, except in perhaps how well it works. This one is relatively dry, slightly roasted, with hints of floral honey and caramel in the base. The hop bitterness is assertive if not intense - I'd give it a 4/10, amplified slightly by the dryness and mineral quality of the malt foundation. Hop notes are mostly light and floral, with a nice amount of grassy mintyness and a fair amount of lighter citrus, lemon and orange zest. It's these latter few notes that dovetail nicely with the guava juice. You know, I don't drink guava juice, and I don't even think I'd know what a guava was if someone chucked one at me. Nonetheless, the flavor here is familiar - maybe I met you once in a V8, guava - and its deep sweetness, a little reminiscent of mango, pineapple, even passionfruit, mingles nicely with the leafy and floral notes as well as (unsurprisingly) the citrus.

Mouthfeel: One of this beer's best attributes. An incredibly soft and creamy mouth almost makes for a smoothie-like feeling at some points, blending very nicely with the fruit juice notes present in the flavor profile. It's sorbet-like, really, with small, minuscule bubbles in a thicker body making for a velvety smooth and slick mouth, thickened by fruit sugars and slick-ened by the hop oils. Very nice, though almost a little too smooth at the end (that is, too flat).

Drinkability: This beer is good, and it works ... well, well. But it doesn't quite blow me away, and I'm not sure why. Maybe I'm just not a guava fan. This beer did drink in many ways like a fruit beer, because the fruity notes really do dominate the taste, particularly as this one warms - the hops here compliment it nicely but can barely hold their own. It's not a bad beer, by any stretch - and at 7.0%, if it's your thing, feel free to drink up - but this one hints at the possibilities possible with combining fruit juices with hops without actually quite bringing the idea to ... fruition. Gnyuck gnyuck gnyuck.

Photo of Flounder57
3.84/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Sever in a pint glass at The Rattlesnake in Boston.

Appearance: A one finger head reduced head to a thin layer. It is a hazy pale orange with some vision of bubbles coming up through the glass.

Smell: Nice light notes of grapefruit, tangerine, and orange with some toasted bready notes and caramel sweetness.

Taste: Same as above with lingering bitterness in the rear. Really chewy and hops fizzle out quickly.

Mouthfeel: Chewy, lingering bitterness, medium bodied, and medium carbonation. Really chewy.

Overall: Not too shabby, but I dig the Humalupalicious from these guys a bit more.

Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.85/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle poured into a Sierra Nevada imperial pint. No date or info on the bottle.

Thanks to sweemzander for this bottle as well as, I THINK, Onenote81? Thanks to the other trade partner anyway!

A - Brilliant clarity allows the vibrant goldenrod brew to shine radiantly. A thick, dense, white finger-tall head caps the beer with good retention from steady carbonation and leaves thick webbing all over the glass.

S - Juicy, mouthwatering guava and grapefruit citrus fruit burst out of this beer for FREEDOMMM! Citrusy citra hops and faint mulchy, earthy Willamet hops overwhelm the pale base malt in this beer but there is still plenty of balance. Inviting and appetizing aroma!

T - The malt profile seems pretty far backed off from what's in the nose, providing little balance for the resiny pine and grapefruit citrus-rich hops. Citrusy, tangy guava is flavorful but thin and slick. Low earthy notes play around in this beer a bit.

M - Thin feeling and slick on the tongue, Freedom is sharply carbonated and has a unique guava finish that compliments the bitter hops. Medium-light-bodied.

D - I could smell this beer all day but the flavor is a stark drop-off in quality. Unique but lacking a malt profile to balance all the hops going on in here. Too thin and watery feeling.

Photo of TheBrewo
3.88/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

This brew was served from the tap at HopCat in Grand Rapids, Michigan. It arrived in a generic tulip, glowing a golden honey coloring. It held a one finger head of off white bubbles, showing good retention, and leaving patterned lacing around the glass. The beer was hazy, but without sediment. Carbonation appeared to be light. The aroma was fresh and fruity, with overt guava, strawberry, pineapple, and grapefruit. The malts were pale and fire roasted, while the hops were bright, citric, and syrupy. With warmth came vanillas, icy coolness of herbs, and honeysuckle. Our first impression was that the flavoring showed excellent fruit up front that was not overwhelming, and nicely clean hoppiness to balance. As we sipped, the taste began with sweet guava juice, apricot, and pineapple sitting against a lightly toasted pale malt base, citric and floral hops, honey, wet wheatiness, and mustiness. The middle showed a more simple side, with bittered grain of pales, black pepper spice, floured dough, wet leafiness, and herbal hops. Washing through the finish was that same herbal hop, eucalyptus, guava flesh, soured lemon bite, sugar dipped dried mangos, and gritty yeastiness. The aftertaste breathed of herbal and citric hops, ethanolic pepper, guava, grapefruit, tangerine, and bittered lemon rind. The body was medium, and the carbonation was high, with prickle to the lip. Each sip gave good pop, foam, froth, and smack, with limited slurp and glug. The mouth was left crisply dry following a wet, cooling coating. The abv was appropriate, and the beer drank easily.

Overall, what we enjoyed most about this beer was the elegantly included tropical fruitiness through both the nose and the flavoring. At most points the guava came across as highly authentic, and the sweetness actually helped quite nicely to match the prominent malt profile. The hops added lightness, but were a bit simplistic and underdone. When closer to tap temperatures the sip was bigger and much frothier, but with warmth it muddled, making for a slower drinking beer. This is a refreshing warm weather beverage, nicely fruited, and full, but the final balanced just never quite came together for us, as things felt, at times, disjointed and awkwardly superimposed.

Photo of Mitchster
3.88/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

$2.30 for a 12oz single @ Jacks. No ingredients listed on the website. A collaboration with Half Acre Beer Co in Chicago.

Pours out to a clear light amber forming a modest white head with average retention and sparse lacing. Mild carbonation. The aroma is sweet with spicy resinous hops with a touch of that skunky Amarillo and the mango of Centennial. Very nice. Sits on top of a sweet malt nose. Mouthfeel is soft and smooth with a medium body. The taste is very very good. I get the skunky MJ of Amarillo with a nice flash of white pepper (since they are going for the Ween thing here), and a touch of some acidic fruit...I dunno if it's Guava or not, but it lightens the body and adds a peculiar fruity sourness. The bitterness is a little sharp, above medium. The finish is dry. Aftertaste of grapefruit pith.

This is a decent IPA with some peculiar qualities. I might buy it again in a pinch.

Photo of Copernicandream
3.89/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a tulip. ~ 3 wks from bottling date.

A: Goldenrod / light copper color. One finger of fine soapy head that fades quickly, leaves a moderate amount of lacing on the glass as I drink.

S: Pure tropical fruit. Smells like the roadside juice stands in South America, guava, mango, papaya. Very "tropical." I get no banana or clove esters (a definite plus).

T: True to the nose up front, tropical guava-ness. A very mild malt balance in the middle that fades into some typical piney hop bitterness. There is a subtle something distasteful on the backend that lingers into the aftertaste - soapy peppercorn.

M: Relatively thin, moderate to upper level carbonation with significant amounts of fizzy rising bubbles. I would have hoped for a slightly thicker mouthfeel to coat the tongue and release more of those tropical notes.

O: Good but I can't rave. The guava smell is perfect. Absolutely incredible, but it doesn't translate perfectly to the taste.

Photo of andrewjraab
3.91/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up the LAST bottle at Copper Vine in Grandville. Poured in a SAPP glass.

Pours a golden amber with good clarity. Fluffy white head quickly dissipates. Decent lacing and stick to the glass.

Smells amazing - big citrus aroma, mixed with a sweet smell of caramel?

T - mouth watering citrus hop juiciness. Finishes with an off balanced bittersweet. Brown Sugar?

O - This was highly drinkable and I'm glad I got a chance to taste it. I wish I could have gotten my hands on more. This is an really solid collaboration and well done summer IPA.

Photo of claminat420
3.93/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A- poured a hazy copper color with a nice frothy white head. medium lacing.

S- grapefruit hops dominate. what an ipa should be. not too crazy or over the top but good.

T- the bitterness is what an american ipa should be. the grapefruit hops come out alil but more of some piney notes hit ya unlike the smell. the guava doesn't hit you at first but once you drink this brew day after day the guava tends to be abit much.

M- medium bodied. good carbonation.

D- i hope my beer store has more of this!! once again tho.. great brew but after awhile the guava starts getting to you.

Overall- a solid ipa built for a guava lover.

Photo of EricCioe
3.93/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This pours a slightly hazy light copper orange with a one finger head, good retention, and nice lacing. On the nose there is a peculiar citrus flavor I'm not familiar with, which I'm guessing is the guava. A strange nose, quite different than the grapefruit/orange standard for the style. In the mouth there is a good deal of orange flavoring but there is a nuttiness underneath that, again, probably the guava. It's a medium bodied beer and the hop bitterness makes for a long finish, with some of that nuttiness carrying over also. This is a peculiar DIPA, the first unique one I've had in a while. I'm not sure how I feel about the guava, but it certainly is different and that's welcome in a world of grapefruit bombs.

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.93/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to mrbubbler for sharing this one at GRG1313’s tasting.

Pours a clear orange with a foamy white head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, guava, citrus, and weed aromas. Taste is much the same with guava and weed flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of hop bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer with some interesting aromas and flavors.

Freedom Of '78 from Short's Brewing Company
91 out of 100 based on 392 ratings.