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Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout - Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales

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Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn StoutMadrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout

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367 Reviews
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Reviews: 367
Hads: 955
Avg: 3.81
pDev: 26.51%
Wants: 70
Gots: 145 | FT: 11
Brewed by:
Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  8.10% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Shovelbum on 02-12-2006

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Reviews by hayesez:
Photo of hayesez
3.42/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 4

Picked this one up yesterday in Bloomington and cracked it open tonight. Reads "Blend 2, 2010" on the back. I had tried it at Dark Lord Day and was looking forward to doing it again on a fresh palate. Cracked it open while getting some work done in the office. A bit of a gusher with the majority landing in my glass, but a meaningful amount hitting the floor. Calmed down when being poured.

Poured into my DFH signature glass several different times. Deep dark brown with a very intriguing head. The head obviously billowed up quickly as I poured my glass about half-full of beer. After giving it some time to settle and drinking a bit, I filled it up again. The original head was very fluffy in the middle with large loosely packed bubbles on the outside. As it settled those larger bubbles became smaller and assimilated with the rest of the head becoming a tan color. The second pour created a billowing up of more loosely packed bubbles pushing the original head upward. This second layer is a darker tan. Upon my third pour, it was more of the same. At this point, I had three layers of head, each varying in bubble density and color. It looked like the multi-layered sand art I've seen in the past - very interesting. Lots of thick lace left on sides.

Originally, the funkiness dominated the nose on this beer. Tart fruits are prevalent. However, the deeper I get into the bottle, the more I smell the roasted malts, dark chocolate, and stouty fruit smell. It is not what one would expect from an imperial stout...unless they knew that it was Jolly Pumpkin. I'm not convinced I'm really a fan of the smell, but it is definitely interesting.

The taste (regardless of how much of the bottle I've had) is definitely not that of a stout. It is dominated by the brett and has a little semblance of an imperial stout. It starts off very wild before moving into what can be recognized as the pre-brett stout. A bit of roasted malt and a hint of chocolate emerge before the finish reminds you that you are definitely drinking a Jolly Pumpkin beer. Interesting, but given the style, not what one would expect. Very thin feeling for an imperial stout. I'm a huge fan of this style of beer, but mouthfeel is a big component of that. This falls way short.

Overall, I actually enjoyed drinking this beer. Ranking against other Imperial Stouts will detract for the Beer Advocate rankings I assign, but certainly a noteworthy beer. Frankly, I'd drink another one just to look at head pile up.

Consumed: 6/8/2010

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More User Reviews:
Photo of Gryphon69
1.5/5  rDev -60.6%

A- Black with a dark brown head, spewed everywhere upon opening

S- Sweet fruits

T- Sour, tart watery, lots of carbonation

M- Watery and fizzy

O- Not a stout at all, nothing about it is a stout except maybe the color. It is a dark sour, terrible lableling and garbage for a stout

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Photo of thelagerheads
5/5  rDev +31.2%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This is where other beers come to be decimated and pronounced simpleton swills of bulging Amerigo. In fact this is the war of the worlds brew that comes out of the ground and goes GEEE GLEEENNNNK and then starts zapping people and turns them to quivering dust piles. I saw a man carrying a case of Bud Light walking in 95 degree heat as I was driving towards the Jolly Pumpkin headquarters today and I cursed his existence and made inside my brain those exact same GLLLEEEKEKKEKE sounds and he was gone from the face of the planet beer. I pulled in and mooched three samples with this being the last and bought three bottles with this being the first tasted. What you have here is a copper bodice and the queen is being fed chinked off pieces of the Sphinx and grape wine and the blood of three virgins. Her hair is flaming and her mouth is cursed with the comprachico's everpresent and everlasting grin-smirk-smile. You have a porter with God's little magic wand in it making a mushroom cloud of exploding suds that implodes from the center down in a burst of purple froth. You have to harness this head because it whips around and screams and threatens to put your life in the dustbowl if you don't dive right in and be overcome by excellence.

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Photo of superspak
4.2/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle into snifter, bottled on 2/13/2013. Pours pitch black color with a 1-2 finger dense tan head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Light spotty soapy lacing clings around the glass, with a moderate amount of streaming carbonation. Aromas of big tart cherry, green apple, lemon, raisin, plum, dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, dark bread, licorice, light char, hay, straw, grass, oak, musty funk, and yeast/roasted earthiness. Damn nice aromas with good balance and complexity of fruity/funky yeast, dark/roasted malt, and oak barrel notes; with great strength. Taste of tart cherry, green apple, lemon, raisin, plum, dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, dark bread, licorice, light char, hay, straw, grass, oak, musty funk, and yeast/roasted earthiness. Fair amount of roasted bitterness and light tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of cherry, green apple, lemon, raisin, plum, dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, light char, dark bread, licorice, hay, grass, oak, funk, and yeast/roasted earthiness on the finish for a while. Fantastic complexity and robustness of fruity/funky yeast, dark/roasted malt, and oak barrel flavors; with a great malt/yeast balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a smooth, fairly creamy, and lightly acidic/chalky mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is well hidden with only a light warming present after the finish. Overall this is an awesome Belgian sour stout. All around great complexity and balance of fruity/funky yeast, dark/roasted malt, and oak barrel flavors; and very smooth to sip on. A highly enjoyable offering.

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Photo of tectactoe
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Photo of t2grogan
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%

Photo of MadScientist
4.05/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A gentle pour produces three finger of rocky, dark tan bubble that settle to a thin cap leaving some lacing on the glass. The beer is almost opaque with light just penetrating the thin edge revealing a very deep garnet.

The first thing you smell is moderately sour/acidic and dark malt with some light coffee and cocoa aromas. Some esters of plums come through. After my glass warmed a light goaty and earthy funk from the sour developed.

A big mouth watering, intense sour hits you on the first sip, far more than the nose suggests. The sourness has free range of the show here with just a trace of malt sweetness to balance it. There also some dark malts flavors with a touch of cocoa in the back; it takes a while but roasted and burnt grain flavors come through that remind me a nice dry American stout. The sourness and roasted grain flavors continue into a long dry finish.

This is a medium body with a lively, light carbonation.

Mardugada Obscura is an intensely sour beer with notes of dry stout. It's defiantly not for everyone but I think it's pretty amazing beer.

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Photo of Tiernan
4.25/5  rDev +11.5%

Photo of Ben7773
4.36/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Photo of orbitalr0x
3.98/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a deep black with a two finger head of tan foam that sticks on top. Some lacing as well. Head stays around awhile, looking good. Aromas of chocolate and roastiness. A fruity aroma with some funky sourness and an oak undertone. Slightly spicy and quite interesting!

First sip brings a mild roasty maltiness along with some chocolate and light fruit tones. Flows down with a touch of smokiness. Sour tones come through and they can be quite strong. Earthy yeastiness brings in a spicy aspect. Oak comes through on the finish with some herbal hop bitterness. Sour lingers on after each sip.

This is a light bodied stout here for sure. Easy drinking and quite interesting. Not sure I could drink all that much of it myself, but it's a good bottle to share with friends or family. Another JP brew worth looking out for!

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Photo of DaftPatrick
4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of warnerry
4.03/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Blend 2; Bottle 1/5/11

A - Pours deep brown/black with three fingers of brown head. By far the darkest beer I've seen from JP. Head has great retention and leaves quite a bit of lacing.

S - Tart and funky up front, with some green apple and tart cherry. Then the stout elements become apparent, with roasted malt, bitter chocolate and a bit of milk chocolate. Nice.

T - At first it tastes like a lot of other JP beers, with a funky sourness, including some apple. But midway through, the chocolate and roasted malts really identify this as a stout. There is some sourness throughout, but it mostly hits up front. The finish is roasty and somewhat dry like bitter chocolate. I think this works well.

M - Medium mouthfeel that feels lighter initially and a bit heavier on the finish. Finish is several types of dry: a bit earthy/funky, a bit roasty, and a bit bitter.

O - Definitely an interesting brew from Jolly Pumpkin. I think it works well and is pretty tasty, but it doesn't make me eager to have more sour stouts, either.

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Photo of Beaver13
3.61/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750 ml bottle. Pours a dark brown with a large fluffy brown head that retains well and laces the glass.

The aroma is grainy lactic chocolate with some spicy hops and a little band-aid.

The flavor is roasted malts with a vinous sour fruitiness. The finish is roasted bitterness. The mouthfeel is medium and creamy.

Overall, it's kind of jarring to have a sour stout. It seems to balance out and blend as it warms and I drink more. I'm not quite sure how much I like it, but it's a fun beer and I'd definitely have it again.

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Photo of TimoP
4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of Dbrulet
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Photo of Magister_Beav
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of aquazr1
4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to AmericanBrew for sharing this bottle.

The beer pours a dark brown color with a khaki head. The aroma is brown sugar, alcohol and dark cherries. The flavor is pretty tart with some sour cherries and a lot of notes from the oak aging. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. A very nice slightly sour stout.

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Photo of rybond7789
4.71/5  rDev +23.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

A Very good sour stout!

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Photo of olradetbalder
3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Photo of Skye1024
4.75/5  rDev +24.7%

Photo of magictrokini
3.94/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours jet black with a huge, cascading brown head. Rich aroma of burnt coffee, chocolate, bourbon, leather, and sour yeast. Once this warmed, it was very good. Tons of roasted malt, with coffee, chocolate, currants, smoke, and oak. I could have done without the sour yeast. It drowns out whatever hop bittenress they intended. It doesn't ruin the beer (like Avery 15) but it also doesn't make it better. All in all, this is still a very good stout.

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Photo of pat61
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

L: It pours a dark coffee brown with a rich 1” tan foam collar that hugs the glass.
S: The aromas are fruit, wild yeast, and perhaps a touch of rotten fruit or barnyard funk in the aroma and a suggestion of port.
T: A creamy start immediately gives way to tartness that expands through the mouth. Fruit, spice, faint caramel, and complex layers of lemony, vinegary tartness. Soft roast flavors. Nothing burnt or harsh. Faint bitterness on the finish.
F: Has a very fine and soft texture, medium carbonation and body.
O: A very unique imperial stout that high lights wild yeast in a very nice way.

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Photo of cnagle28
3.7/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of ehammond1
3.56/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle (2011)

Holiday Wine Cellar
Escondido, CA

Dark black and thick appearance. Tall, growing brown head that lasts. Regular, lined lacing down the glass. A gorgeous stout!

The aroma on this beer changes as it warms perhaps more than any other beer I've had. It begins slightly roasty and bready, evolving in to a tart, tangy, biting sour mixed with sweet fruit--like cherries or raspberries.

As with the nose, this beer really changes as it warms. It begins slightly roasty and bready, and at near room temperature, it's a biting sour mixed with some sweet fruit. There isn't a lot of typical-"stout" flavors left over. It's missing a depth, balance, and complexity I was hoping for. Tasty, and certainly unique.

Medium bodied. I was hoping for a more full, luscious mouthfeel.

An interesting and unique sour stout. For my tastes, I would have preferred a touch less of the acidic sour notes because the typical stout flavors got left in the dust, leaving this beer relatively one-note: sour.

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Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout from Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales
86 out of 100 based on 367 ratings.