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Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout - Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales

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BA SCORE
87
very good

825 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 825
Reviews: 350
rAvg: 3.85
pDev: 16.1%
Wants: 65
Gots: 99 | FT: 8
Brewed by:
Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  8.10% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Shovelbum on 02-12-2006)
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Photo of Sammy
3.9/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A sipper,but a good one. Wild yeast aroma and a tad of sour. A stout, a wild, a sour. Very brown to black coloured body and lacey. The sour, or should I better call it tartness, makes it so drinkable.The sourness does build up, so share this with another sour fan.

Sammy, Mar 30, 2012
Photo of t0rin0
3.75/5  rDev -2.6%

t0rin0, Oct 17, 2012
Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.91/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle I brought to share at Retsinis' tasting.

Blend 3. Bottled 1/14/11.

Pours an opaque black with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is slightly sour and tart with dark roasted malt, cocoa, and woody aromas. Taste is much the same with fruity and cocoa flavors on the finish. There are mild amounts of roasty bitterness and acidity on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer that is a solid sour stout.

UCLABrewN84, Apr 08, 2013
Photo of djrn2
4/5  rDev +3.9%

djrn2, Nov 20, 2011
Photo of Thorpe429
4.05/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle picked up at Connecticut Ave in DC.

Blend 6 -- Bottled February 2, 2011. Served in a Jolly Pumpkin tulip.

Pours a very dark brown with a good tan head and a bit of lacing on the sides of the glass as it goes down. Bubbles and a collar around the edges throughout. The nose brings a bit of roasted malt and chocolate, then comes through with mild acidity, a bit of cherry, and some dark fruits.

The flavor pushes the acidity through a bit more, focusing on the cherry with some dark malt in the background. Very slight roast. Light-medium body with good carbonation, a touch of oak, and dry acidity through the finish. Another very high-quality brew from Jolly Pumpkin.

Thorpe429, Jan 30, 2012
Photo of zestar
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%

zestar, Jul 19, 2014
Photo of nmann08
4/5  rDev +3.9%

nmann08, Jul 30, 2012
Photo of metter98
3.9/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is jet black in color and poured with a finger high creamy tan head that died down but consistently left a thin layer of bubbles covering the surface.
S: There are strong aromas of dark fruits in the nose.
T: Like the smell, the initial taste has flavors of dark fruits and a bit of sourness; however, these are quickly followed by roasted malts and finishes with a light to moderate amount of bitterness.
M: It feels medium-bodied and smooth on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: The combination of fruity and roasted malt flavors is rather interesting yet it also makes this beer one that needs to be sipped slowly.

metter98, Apr 03, 2011
Photo of brentk56
4.4/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Batch 360/362

Appearance: Pours a suitably obscure dark color with a magnificent foamy head that leaves an impressive pattern of lace

Smell: Oak and sour cherries dominate the aroma, but underneath one can find, plenty of roast, dark fruit and chocolate

Taste: Opens with a wild and musty flavor of oak, sour cherries and roasted/charred meat; by mid-palate, a hint of sweet chocolate sneaks in underneath; after the swallow, the lactic sour flavors dominate the other subtle aspects into the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body, somewhat creamy, with a lovely delicate foamy carbonation

Overall: Lots of complexity and very interesting; Jolly Pumpkin is a master at presenting lactic sour beers in a range of styles; my first review of this beer had lower scores but re-reviewing Batch 5 (bottled 1/21/11) was an eye-opener that bumped the scores up considerably

brentk56, May 13, 2010
Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.75/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Burnished mahogany with generous highlights of cherry and gold. The three finger head looks like frappuccino, or one of those other coffee-based beverages that I see people drinking. The foam melts in appealing fashion and is responsible for extensive sheets of Swiss cheese-like lace... that look better on subsequent pours than they do initially.

With a single sniff, I could have identified Jolly Pumpkin as Madrugada Obscura's brewery of origin given three guesses. That's because the funkiness of the Brett overwhelms all else. I didn't say 'obliterates all else' because roasted malt is present in the background. Much less Brettanomyces would have been much better.

I'll be the first to admit that I am not a Jolly Pumpkin fan because I don't think that every(!) single(!) style needs to be injected with bugs. Personally, I love wild ales, bieres de garde, saisons and all the rest. In fact, Russian River is one of my favorite breweries. It's just that there's a limit. And these guys blow right by it.

Having said all that, I'm not surprised that my two favorite JP beers are Oro de Calabaza and Biere de Mars, both bieres de garde. That's because they're *supposed* to be funky. Madrugada Obscura, against all odds, is delicious beer too. That's probably because the roasted malt is able to stand up to the wild yeast (unlike, say, wheat malt), keeping the base style from losing its identity.

It's still a close call and I'm unable to identify any subtleties that might be coming from the roasted and/or chocolate malt. At least the beer has some sweetness and bitterness to go along with the incredible tartness. Just think of MO:DDS as a milk stout brewed with spoiled milk. Mmm...

In order to be considered good, the body/mouthfeel either needed to be full and milkshake creamy (like an American stout) or silky and expansive (like a Belgian ale). The fact that it's neither is why the score is what it is.

Even though the final score won't necessarily reflect it, Madrugada Obscura is one of my favorite Jolly Pumpkin brews, following only the ones mentioned above. While this is an interesting ride, I'm unlikely to fork over $9.99 for another bottle.

BuckeyeNation, Feb 15, 2008
Photo of Phyl21ca
2.75/5  rDev -28.6%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottle courtesy of Hogtownharry: Poured a deep black color stout with a big light brown foamy head with some good retention and minimal lacing. Aroma of roasted malt is mix with some sour bretty notes. Taste is also a mix between some roasted bitter malt notes with some sour and bretty notes which didn't mix very well IMO. Medium body with some good carbonation and no apparent alcohol. I am usually one up for experiment but the mix between stout and bretty Belgian is something I could do without.

Phyl21ca, Mar 06, 2008
Photo of BEERchitect
2.6/5  rDev -32.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Shocking the palate with sharp acidity, mouth puckering tartness, and coffee-like bitterness- this takes the taste buds on a journey miles long in a single sip.

The vinous ale pours with a dark barkish brown with the haze of suspended cocoa with the thin off-white head of lattes. Light on structure, the foam falls quickly with minimal lace. A fairly still beer in short order.

Very tart to the nose with acids that range from red wine vinegar to sour grapes, limes, and under ripened cherries; all are backed by a woody and coffee-like scent.

A burst of sourness and fruit tartness invade the palate with the serious flavors of the soured white grapes, tart cherries, and lemon rind have absolutely no mercy on the palate. The odd malt back of charred grains, roast coffee bitterness, and wood never allow any meaningful sweetness or starch to support the sourness- only providing an odd bitter-sour-ashy interplay that disagrees with the palate.

The mouth feel takes the brunt of the unpleasantries. Sour fruits start with a delightful and clean acidity before the ashy roast bitterness and oak derived astringency attack the sides of the tongue, inside jaws, and back of the throat with a powdery pang of saliva sucking needles.

Sourness and stouts are a complicated blend of textures, tastes, and balances- if it's going to work, I hardly believe that it could happen in a dry beer as it would almost have to have much more residual sweetness and body than what's on display here.

BEERchitect, May 25, 2012
Photo of Texasfan549
4/5  rDev +3.9%

Texasfan549, Jan 28, 2012
Photo of kjkinsey
2/5  rDev -48.1%

kjkinsey, Dec 02, 2011
Photo of womencantsail
3.78/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap at Beachwood Brewing

A: The beer pours a very dark brown color with a rather tall off-white head.

S: As with any Jolly Pumpkin beers, this one is quite sour and lactic. There's a nice earthy funk along with sour cherries and lemon zest. A fair amount of grass and straw as well as some light oak.

T: The flavor is pretty heavy on the wood and earth notes; much more so than the nose. A bit of dark chocolate, black pepper, lemon zest, and mild fruits. The tartness and lactic character is not as pronounced on the palate.

M: Medium bodied with medium to high carbonation.

O: There was a slight booziness that came through as I drank a bit more of this. It was still good, but not the best Jolly Pumpkin has to offer.

womencantsail, Aug 14, 2011
Photo of GRG1313
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%

GRG1313, Yesterday at 06:11 AM
Photo of ygtbsm94
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%

ygtbsm94, Jan 30, 2012
Photo of spycow
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%

spycow, Mar 09, 2013
Photo of kylehay2004
4.5/5  rDev +16.9%

kylehay2004, Oct 18, 2013
Photo of jaydoc
3.75/5  rDev -2.6%

jaydoc, Aug 30, 2013
Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.58/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a black body with a medium-sized, short-lived beige head.

Smell: Roasted barley aroma with notes of dark chocolate, plums, toffee chips, and licorise, all with a faroff sourness.

Taste: Roasted barley with a chocolatey bent. Sourness soon follows, never allowing the distant sweetness to advance. Hints of licorice, plums, and herbs. Roast, sourness, and a bright acidity fuse together for the finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Fizzy carbonation.

Drinkability: As always, it's another weird, wild ride from Jolly Pumpkin.

ChainGangGuy, Jan 13, 2008
Photo of Knapp85
4.33/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Damn, this beer poured out as a beer black color, there was a fizzy head that vanished rather quickly. The smell has no hints of sour at all. All roasted and burnt malt wooden aromas. The taste is sour as hell in my opinion, it gets more sour as it warms. The beer also gives off plenty of smokey qualities along with burnt or toasted malts. It has a touch of chocolate in there too. A stunning brew for sure. The mouthfeel was smooth and lightly carbonated. Overall it was a really great pairing with the spicy French toast, chocolate dipping sause and coffee cotton candy.

Knapp85, Jul 28, 2011
Photo of westcoastbeerlvr
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%

westcoastbeerlvr, Nov 15, 2011
Photo of TMoney2591
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a snifter at Bad Apple.

Figured this would go well with my awesome burger... It pours a deep dark ruby-brown topped by a short finger of tan foam. The nose comprises roasted malts, light red wine vinegar, light cocoa, and a touch of tart black cherry. The taste brings in more of the same, with the vinegar and cherry evenly matched with the chocolatey roast. At least to begin with: the tide turns in favor of the sour components, but the finish still holds hints of the fallen adversary. The body is a lithe medium, with a light moderate carbonation, a generally smooth feel, and a sorta/kinda dry finish. Overall, the classic sour stout, the best of both worlds. I can't see drinking this all that often, but it is indeed a fine treat on the occasions it's employed.

TMoney2591, Oct 23, 2012
Photo of emerge077
3.98/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark umber-black in the glass, plently of foam, sticky lace, slowly settling over time.

Roasted malt in the aroma, and some fruity plum. I know the house yeast is in here from the taste, but it doesn't assert much in the aroma.

Roasty chocolate malt, slightly sour brett, tart cherry, leather, almonds. Rough, yet still some degree of complexity. A unique take on a Belgian Stout, hybrid qualities of American/Belgian origin.

Mouthfeel is smooth, dry with tart fruit in the aftertaste. One 750 is ok if you're prepared for a wild ride. Probably best shared, it's still a solid experimental offering.

emerge077, Mar 24, 2007
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Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout from Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales
87 out of 100 based on 825 ratings.