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Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout - Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales

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BA SCORE
87
very good

806 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 806
Reviews: 349
rAvg: 3.86
pDev: 16.06%
Wants: 63
Gots: 98 | FT: 9
Brewed by:
Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  8.10% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Shovelbum on 02-12-2006)
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Gassygunslinger

Maine

1.75/5  rDev -54.7%

Note here that I can understand that people enjoy their sours. I cannot attest to being an expert on all styles, or even enjoy all styles enough to judge their worth effectively...

That being said, if you call a beer a Russian Imperial Stout that is "Brimming of roasted malts and bitter hops)", and it turns out it's actually a sour ale (with NO heads-up whatsoever on the bottle giving you a hint that this is actually a sour), I think it's understandable to be irritated after dumping a fair amount of cash into what you thought was a barrel-aged stout.

So, because of the poor labeling, I believe I can rightfully critique this as a Russian Imperial Stout. After all, if I order a cheese burger and you give me a salad, I think I can safely call it a terrible burger on account of the lack of beef and cheese.

The appearance is a 4. Looks like a Russian Imperial Stout. Dark, with a little bit of a head (not that much, but it's understandable being barrel aged). The lack of head is what knocked it down to a 4.

Smell is a 2.5. While not offensive (kind of citrusy), this is where you start to have your doubts about what you're drinking.

For taste, I give it a 1. There is no hint of the dark roasted malt or the heavy hops that characterizes a Russian Imperial Stout. The palate is overwhelmed by sour. Being unaccustomed to sour beer, I honestly couldn't taste the beer over the lemon juice. Again, I'm not judging sour beer as a whole. I don't care for it, but understand that others may be fond of it. That being said, it might be a great sour beer, but it's a god-awful Russian Imperial Stout. The only thing that it has in common with an RIS is the color.

Mouthfeel is a 3. I can't honestly say that the mouthfeel was offensive (the mouth-taste was doing the heavy-lifting there). Nor can I say the mouthfeel was spectacular. It was average.

Overall I give it a 1. It is the absolute worst RIS I've ever had, and had to drain pour. I apologize for the soap box, but I believe Jolly Pumpkin needs to label their product better. Otherwise I might just start selling tap-water and call it Scottish Ale.

01-22-2013 15:56:29 | More by Gassygunslinger
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AleWatcher

Illinois

2.75/5  rDev -28.8%

01-20-2013 13:55:28 | More by AleWatcher
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StaEva

Pennsylvania

4.25/5  rDev +10.1%

01-16-2013 05:02:52 | More by StaEva
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TARDIS

New York

4.25/5  rDev +10.1%

01-14-2013 22:12:16 | More by TARDIS
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BlissJunkie

Michigan

4.5/5  rDev +16.6%

01-14-2013 18:54:48 | More by BlissJunkie
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Eric908

South Dakota

3/5  rDev -22.3%

01-13-2013 23:47:47 | More by Eric908
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BeerOps

Illinois

3.25/5  rDev -15.8%

01-13-2013 22:27:44 | More by BeerOps
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StoutHunter

Michigan

4/5  rDev +3.6%

01-13-2013 20:29:06 | More by StoutHunter
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AlexFields

Tennessee

3/5  rDev -22.3%

01-11-2013 23:09:07 | More by AlexFields
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TCgoalie

Michigan

4/5  rDev +3.6%

01-08-2013 21:02:16 | More by TCgoalie
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appetiteforparis

Colorado

4.5/5  rDev +16.6%

01-08-2013 06:19:40 | More by appetiteforparis
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innuendobrewskiman63

New York

4.5/5  rDev +16.6%

01-04-2013 00:49:12 | More by innuendobrewskiman63
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brownechris


4/5  rDev +3.6%

01-02-2013 03:19:30 | More by brownechris
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jwat

Pennsylvania

4.75/5  rDev +23.1%

01-01-2013 16:45:43 | More by jwat
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dunix

Vermont

4.25/5  rDev +10.1%

01-01-2013 03:24:00 | More by dunix
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gueuzeonhigh

Maine

3.45/5  rDev -10.6%

I don't know what to make of this stuff.
It pours as an homage to its moniker.
A dark brown-- maybe even black-- I'd swear it's a stout.
A tip-off of things to come was the head-- frothy, short lived sizzling head ending an a ring in the glass and an atoll floating about.
A bit of lacing covered the walls of my glass.
Maybe it's the shortcomings of my aging nose, but this beer's nose seemed diminutive--
I noted hints of yeast, what I swear is coriander and a distant echo of hops.
And now to the quandary-- the flavor.
This is no stout-- it's a Flemish sour ale!
If I were to adhere to the style-- this ain't no stout!
As a sour-- it's sort of "there"... hard to pin it down exactly.
Throughout the flavor Is the unmistakeable sour flavor and what I might swear is a Belgian style dark ale or even a "dark" Sassion.
But the label with it's "Obscura" and "Dark Dawn Stout"-- prods my imagination to start conjuring up notions of Russian Imperials. or American Imperials.. or some libation with wads of toasted...
If I were to review this beer based on a stout-- it's very light for a stout, thin and perhaps water. The flavor islight dancing-- even whimsical with it's up-front and center "sour" profile.

In the end-- this is an enjoyable beer. Don't look at the label.
If you're expecting "the mother of all beers" don't tread here.
If you're in the mood for a lighter-- but noticeable flavor-- something that you may have to think about-- pop the top!

12-23-2012 01:50:48 | More by gueuzeonhigh
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Jeffo

Netherlands

3.35/5  rDev -13.2%

Got this one at De Bierkoning in Amsterdam. Put it against a Jester King Black Metal in the Farmhouse Stout Showdown!

From a 750ml into a snifter

APPEARANCE: A black pour yields a two finger, medium looking, fluffy, dark tan head with great retention. Head slowly fades to a thick foam cap. Black body and very high levels of carbonation. Lots of carbonation everywhere. A foamy wisp remains leaving dots of lacing down the glass.

SMELL: Some funky barnyard notes, tart cherry for sure, as well as lemon sourness. Light notes of chocolate in there as well, though the tart and funky notes are more prominent.

TASTE: Funky barnyard flavors up front, with lemon and lactose sourness and tart cherries through the middle into the swallow. More stout like flavors at the finish, with touches of roasted and chocolate notes. Tart cherry, lemon sourness, as well as some light milk chocolate and and bitter coffee flavors linger in the mild aftertaste. A tart, sour beginning, but more of a stout finish here.

PALATE: Medium body and slightly prickly carbonation. Goes down fine with a bit of a scratch and finishes slightly dry and puckering. Not overly creamy, and slightly lambic-like.

OVERALL: This one was more a sour than a stout, but it was interesting and told a story from the beginning to the end. While I wish this had bee more stout infuenced, it was still fun and woth checking out. If you like wild ales and stouts, this will probably be right up your alley. Recommended.

12-20-2012 22:03:29 | More by Jeffo
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blindpiggie

Colorado

4.25/5  rDev +10.1%

12-20-2012 03:46:28 | More by blindpiggie
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JoePoc17

Pennsylvania

4.75/5  rDev +23.1%

12-18-2012 02:20:34 | More by JoePoc17
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Honus1

Ohio

4/5  rDev +3.6%

12-17-2012 04:17:22 | More by Honus1
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zrab11

Indiana

4.5/5  rDev +16.6%

12-14-2012 16:24:17 | More by zrab11
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retreminy

South Carolina

4.25/5  rDev +10.1%

12-13-2012 02:27:33 | More by retreminy
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MarioM

California

4/5  rDev +3.6%

12-09-2012 06:00:40 | More by MarioM
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MarcWP

Arizona

4/5  rDev +3.6%

12-02-2012 05:07:04 | More by MarcWP
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C-Dog


3.75/5  rDev -2.8%

11-27-2012 07:00:55 | More by C-Dog
Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout from Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales
87 out of 100 based on 806 ratings.