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Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout - Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales

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87
very good

787 Ratings
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Ratings: 787
Reviews: 347
rAvg: 3.86
pDev: 16.06%
Wants: 62
Gots: 94 | FT: 9
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Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  8.10% ABV

Availability: Winter

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: Shovelbum on 02-12-2006)
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dumptruck81

Texas

4/5  rDev +3.6%

10-20-2012 18:24:28 | More by dumptruck81
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t0rin0

California

3.75/5  rDev -2.8%

10-17-2012 02:07:29 | More by t0rin0
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bluckbeyes

Oregon

4.25/5  rDev +10.1%

10-16-2012 18:26:48 | More by bluckbeyes
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wordemupg

Alberta (Canada)

3.6/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle poured into tulip 15/10/12

A gusher nearly a fountain, big short lived mocha head leaves just a single ring of lace, liquids pretty dark but not quite black and a cola edge

S shes funky, infected alright but is that the Belgian aspect of this stout? intended or not this one has the horse blanket funk that's hard to miss, milk chocolate, sour cherries, nutty toffee and some raisin, happy accident or not this one works

T sour fruity notes and slightly less funk then I could smell but that still leaves a fair bit, some woody earthy notes and a little licorice and some faint booze

M thin and sour with just enough carbonation to give it some live, has a sour chocolate milk finish and well hidden booze

O If the sour funky notes were intended they shouldn't have bothered, if its an infection its sorta works with the beer, this is what I sound like when I talk out of both sides of my mouth, any questions?

I don't like reading reviews or more then whats written on the bottle because I know how it will influence my opinions of the beer. this beers sparked my curiosity and I'll be looking in to the sour notes to see if its intended

Serving type: bottle

10-16-2012 05:07:17 | More by wordemupg
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elcrawl

Oregon

4/5  rDev +3.6%

10-14-2012 18:35:14 | More by elcrawl
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ystazi

Illinois

4.5/5  rDev +16.6%

10-11-2012 19:52:25 | More by ystazi
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litotes


4.68/5  rDev +21.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at The Brickstore in Atlanta.

A: The bar was dimly-lit, but the beer still showed a dark ruby next to my friends' Breakfast Stouts. Head was a creamy coffee color. Excellent retention, although I moved through the beer pretty quickly.

S: All of the roasted malt you would expect in an imperial, but already the coffee and chocolate notes are braced against bright, musky cherries.

T: Excellent. The assertive sour notes are more intriguing set against the backdrop of a rich, mountainous stout, and, to JP's credit, neither range of flavors dominates the palate. By far the best-tasting sour stout I have ever tried.

M: The body was substantially diminished from what the nose--or a regular experience with Imperial stouts--might suggest. Not watery, but thinner than I had hoped.

O: With such an expressive nose and taste, and basically perfect balance of two relatively indelicate flavor profiles, this is my favorite of Jolly Pumpkin's and my favorite example of the style.

Serving type: on-tap

10-02-2012 16:42:04 | More by litotes
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freduardo

Alabama

4.5/5  rDev +16.6%

10-01-2012 00:20:48 | More by freduardo
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bryoung


4.5/5  rDev +16.6%

09-28-2012 22:14:28 | More by bryoung
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biboergosum

Alberta (Canada)

3.6/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml bottle, batch 998, bottled 02-15-2012. What is with the Hawaiian references on this brewery's labels?

This beer pours a deep, dark cola brown hue, with highlighted edges, and one finger of thinly creamy chocolate milk head, which leaves some Swiss cheese lace around the glass as it duly abates.

It smells of sour, somewhat musty fruit - cherry, lemon, and red grape, some mildly roasted chocolate malt, earthy yeast, and herbal, grassy hops. The taste is moderately sour black liqorice, nutty roasted malt, dry cocoa, mildly astringent wood chips, fruity plum esters, a wee bit o' musty funk, and persistent herbal, leafy hops.

The bubbles are fairly tame, but do sustain a low-level raspy edginess, the body definitely on the light side for the style, and so-so in its smoothness. It finishes off-dry, I suppose, the sourness of the fruit muffling any lingering malt, with the wood taking up the vacated space.

An interesting big-ass stout, to be sure - light, sour, hoppy, and boozy (thought you can't overtly tell on that last one). Not the norm, but enjoyable enough for its melding of styles.

Serving type: bottle

09-28-2012 19:52:06 | More by biboergosum
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spoony

Colorado

3.6/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

From a 750 ml bottle with a date of 1/12/12 into a snifter.

A-This is a dark, cola colored brew without much head or carbonation to speak of. The tiny head that rings the glass is dark, dark brown.

S-An interesting mix of some sour cherry, raisins, black licorice, hints of cocoa and roasty malts. Perhaps it was me, but every time I took a whiff of this beer, I got something a little different.

T-Tastes a bit like a chocolate covered cherry. The cocoa and chocolate flavors are more pronounced on the tongue than in the nostrils and the tartness faded a little as the beer warmed and my palate adjusted. Some roasted malt. A bit messy.

M-The beer is just on the heavier side of medium bodied with very little carbonation. It's not hard to drink for a sour stout, but definitely not a beer for chugging.

O-I liked this beer because I thought it was sort of fun and weird. That being said, both the smell and taste were a bit confusing and a little messy for everyday consumption. A little rough around the edges, but not a bad effort.

Serving type: bottle

09-28-2012 02:19:51 | More by spoony
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arash1000

Arkansas

4.75/5  rDev +23.1%

09-26-2012 18:05:06 | More by arash1000
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emilylee

California

4/5  rDev +3.6%

09-25-2012 00:08:44 | More by emilylee
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mattsander

Alberta (Canada)

3.88/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Deep brown, modest head that recedes quickly.

S: Rich cocoa and roasty malts, cherry-fruit like lactic twang. Acidity is present but muted compared to oro de calabaza. Nice, but the pairing feels a little 'crude' or unrefined. Nicer after it breaths a while.

T: Like a sour cherry dipped in bittersweet chocolate. I prefer the taste to the aroma here, but I still feel like the bitterness of the stout retracts from the acidity.

M: Very slick and slippery mouthfeel. A sipper.

A very cool stout from JP. I'm curious if the acidity will increase over time, an interesting cellar candidate.

Serving type: bottle

09-21-2012 16:03:21 | More by mattsander
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doucmehu

Wisconsin

3.5/5  rDev -9.3%

09-18-2012 14:06:54 | More by doucmehu
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superspak

Michigan

4.23/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle into tulip glass, bottled on 1/5/2011. Pours pitch black color with a nice 1-2 finger dense dark tan head with great retention, that reduces to a thin cap that lingers. Nice soapy lacing clings to the glass, with a fair amount of carbonation streaming up. Aromas of big tart cherry, prune, cocoa, roasted malt, licorice, char, earth, hay, grass, oak, and funk. Very nice aromas with nice balance and complexity. Taste of tart cherry, apple, cocoa, roasted malt, char, grass, coffee, hay, earth, and light herbal. Light tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of cocoa, char, roasted malt, cherry, apple, hay, and herbal on the finish for a good bit. Near perfect balance of tart fruits to roasted stout characteristics. No cloying flavors at all on the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a creamy and fairly slick mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a small warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a highly excellent Belgian stout! I wasn’t sure what to expect of this one; but it turned out to be extremely balanced between stout/wild flavors, with great complexity, and very smooth to sip on. Highly enjoyable stuff.

Serving type: bottle

09-18-2012 03:34:32 | More by superspak
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redleg64

Michigan

3.75/5  rDev -2.8%

09-14-2012 23:12:09 | More by redleg64
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claspada

New Jersey

3.3/5  rDev -14.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a black color with a medium-sized, short-lived beige head that dissipates leaving minimal lacing.

Aromas begin with roasted barley graininess with notes of dark chocolate, unripened plums, toffee, dark baker's cocoa chips and licorice. Dark fruit aromas emerge more as it warms.

The tastes begin with the roasted barley with a chocolatey maltiness. Fruited sourness some next, masking much of the maltiness and never allowing the distant sweetness to take hold. As it warms you get some of the licorice, plum and herbal/earthy mustiness also comes out

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with medium carbonation. Finish is dry and minimall roasty, almost smoky with and evergrowing tart presence.

Overall this is one of my least favorite Dark Sour Ales I have ever had. The flavors jsut don't seem harmoneous compared to much better varients including Sour Black, Tart of Darkness and Mother Barrel Select. A bit jumbled and off-putting to the palate.

Serving type: bottle

09-13-2012 14:39:32 | More by claspada
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Pinche_Oso

California

3.75/5  rDev -2.8%

09-12-2012 15:32:21 | More by Pinche_Oso
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THANAT0PSIS

Wisconsin

3.48/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Jolly Pumpkin Madrugada Obscura – Dark Dawn Stout

Appearance: Dark Dawn lives up to its name. This beer is nearly pitch black with just a suggestion of deep ruby color near the edges of the glass. The one finger of khaki colored head that is initially present on the (reasonably hard, in this case) pour is extremely evanescent. It vanishes with barely any trace of the ring one typically finds left behind in this style of beer. The bubbles that do remain are tightly packed and tiny, but they leave great lacing behind. Alcohol legs are relatively visible, but it is difficult to tell in such a dark stout. As the beer goes down, the ring of head that remained disappears completely. This beer looks intimidating and pensive (if a beer can be such). There is also a certain degree of majesty to it.

Aroma: Church wine comes to mind when smelling this beer. Heavy vinegar (which merely suggests wine, as there no grape notes to be found here) and sour apple notes hit hard up front, followed by typical chocolate and deep roasty, coffee-esque notes that one expects in a stout. There are certainly suggestions of cherry notes and perhaps dark fruit of some kind, but these are simply outlying hints, rather than full-fledged notes. This beer is nothing if not interesting and unique smelling.

Taste: The mouth is as complex as the nose, but not as pleasing. This one initially tastes like eating a cigar, but the tongue is quickly and mercifully relieved by a sour apple quality. Soon after that the roasty stout characteristics take over, only to be quickly usurped by sour cherry flavors. This beer moves extremely quickly from one flavor profile to another, which gives the impression of a sort of identity crisis. This is an extremely earthy taste through and through due both to the stout, the sourness, and the hints of yeast that come with bottle conditioning. It is not unpleasant to drink, but it is a bit unsettling. The alcohol is not present anywhere in the taste. This is unquestionably a sipper, as quick drinking will no doubt lead to gut rot and a trip to the bathroom. That said, the beer gets better both as it warms up and goes down.

Mouthfeel: This is a low-to-medium bodied beer that is a tad watery for a stout, but this is hardly a typical stout in any other sense of the word anyway. The medium-low carbonation does its job of ushering the flavors around and plays well with the sour characteristics of the beer. There is no alcohol presence here either.

Overall: This was a somewhat disappointing introduction to Jolly Pumpkin beers and sour beers in general. I have only ever experienced one sour beer and was not overly fond of it, so this may be a beer worth revisiting in the future after my tastebuds are more accustomed to the qualities of sour beers. Unlike many other reviewers, I found the sour and the stout characters to mix really well together; I did not fall in love with the flavor, but they suggest the same earthy quality that one expects from each individual style; perhaps this is the theme that Jolly Pumpkin decided to combine them around. Fans of sours should give this one a shot, but stout drinkers should look elsewhere. The stout flavors are too overpowered by the sours and buying this beer for the stout qualities would be a waste of $16. Drink this one slow, preferably shared with a friend, and when you finish be sure to save the bottle: it is awesome and evokes memories of Chernabog, the demon in Fantasia. The bottle itself might be worth the $16 simply for the cool factor, but the beer is not bad either; it just is not something I would actively seek out again. 14.5/20

Serving type: bottle

09-12-2012 03:38:59 | More by THANAT0PSIS
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Jiatlas

Indiana

3.75/5  rDev -2.8%

09-11-2012 13:31:54 | More by Jiatlas
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szmnnl99

Michigan

4/5  rDev +3.6%

09-11-2012 02:35:37 | More by szmnnl99
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ToddT

Pennsylvania

4.13/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Black topped with a thick tan head, head lasts forever and leaves a nice lace pattern on the glass.

S- Toffee, caramel, hints of wood char, peat moss, and wood smoke.

T- Roasted malt and hints of wood char at first, this is soon washed away by dominate sour fruit notes. This continues to get more sour right up to the finish which is almost puckering, dry and earthy. Candied cranberries come to mind to describe the sour notes.

F- More than medium in body and low in carbonation, creamy and silky in the mouth, the body is very well done.

O- Interesting, I don't think I have ever had anything quite like this. I do truly like the contrasting tastes in this. The 8.1% ABV makes it a sipper and drinking it at cellar temperature does make the flavors work together much better. I would not recommend this to everyone, definitely for an adventuresome palate. Of course it could be fun to surprise a friend or two with this by not giving them any warning of what they are in for.

Notes: From Blend #10, bottled on 2-16-11, been aging this one a bit myself in the back of the beer closet.

Serving type: bottle

09-04-2012 04:20:19 | More by ToddT
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kbuzz

Pennsylvania

2.83/5  rDev -26.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 750 mL bottle into a snifter...Batch 998, bottled 2/15/12.

A: Pours an opaque pitch black. Some bigger tan bubbles when first poured out, but faded pretty quickly to a rim. Alcohol legs are present.

S: Two notes dominate: a faint bit of char at first, and then the JP funk. The line between them is blurred however, because they both give off a degree of acidity...so they fade back and forth between each other...so far it seems to be working. Magic marker, vinegar...maybe even a bit of a floral hop note. Some faint chocolate notes.

T/M: First sip...kind of boring. Not at all complex. Some hop bitterness, vinegary tartness, not much char or roast whatsoever and then finishes with a little dose of baker's chocolate that lingers on the palate. The mouthfeel is even more dissapointing. Very thin. A little slick on the tongue. They did manage to dial down the carbonation for this, but it doesn't make up for how thin the beer is overall.

O: Easily the most dissapointing JP beer I've had. Just a really simple, forgettable beer. Not a lot of stout characteristics nor any of their typical sour notes. It's almost as if the styles cancelled each other out. I would say they missed the mark on this, except I don't know that there is a mark for sour stouts...that said, this is average at best. To be competey honest, it tastes REALLY similar to Duck Rabbit's unintentionally infected stouts.

Serving type: bottle

09-03-2012 20:51:07 | More by kbuzz
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meanmutt

Ohio

4.25/5  rDev +10.1%

09-03-2012 02:57:33 | More by meanmutt
Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout from Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales
87 out of 100 based on 787 ratings.