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Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout - Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales

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Ratings: 914
Reviews: 365
rAvg: 3.85
pDev: 16.1%
Wants: 73
Gots: 116 | FT: 8
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Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  8.10% ABV

Availability: Winter

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Beer added by: Shovelbum on 02-12-2006

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Ratings: 914 | Reviews: 365
Photo of warnerry
4.03/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Blend 2; Bottle 1/5/11

A - Pours deep brown/black with three fingers of brown head. By far the darkest beer I've seen from JP. Head has great retention and leaves quite a bit of lacing.

S - Tart and funky up front, with some green apple and tart cherry. Then the stout elements become apparent, with roasted malt, bitter chocolate and a bit of milk chocolate. Nice.

T - At first it tastes like a lot of other JP beers, with a funky sourness, including some apple. But midway through, the chocolate and roasted malts really identify this as a stout. There is some sourness throughout, but it mostly hits up front. The finish is roasty and somewhat dry like bitter chocolate. I think this works well.

M - Medium mouthfeel that feels lighter initially and a bit heavier on the finish. Finish is several types of dry: a bit earthy/funky, a bit roasty, and a bit bitter.

O - Definitely an interesting brew from Jolly Pumpkin. I think it works well and is pretty tasty, but it doesn't make me eager to have more sour stouts, either.

Photo of Mxzorin
4.53/5  rDev +17.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

The label art is what first caught my eye when I saw this slightly dusty bottle tucked away on the top shelf of my local store. Since the majority of the customers around me were carrying cases of Corona or anything that says BUD on it, I understand why this was overlooked.
Honestly, I'm pretty new to learning about craft beers, micro brews, etc., so what I have to say about this comes with limited knowledge.
I tend to enjoy stouts so of course this intrigued me based on presentation. Now, to me it only makes sense that if you're going to try a new beer, that maybe you should investigate what type it is before purchasing. Especially at a cost of $10-$15 a bottle!
The majority of negative reviews were unhappy because they were surprised that this beer starts off sour, then finishes as a stout. From what I understand Jolly Pumpkin's has a reputation for often doing sours. Also there are PLENTY of sites I found that clearly state that this is a "sour stout," and it's quite different that what you may expect.
My point is that most of these dummies, "beer snobs," etc. who gave this brew a poor grade aren't saying it taste good or bad, but more stating that they didn't like it because they didn't get what they were expecting!
This beer is not for most, in fact probably only a select crowd with specific tastes. But giving it a failing score because you didn't bother to research a very specific artisan beer doesn't make it bad, it just means that you're lazy.
I personally thought it was quite good. Very dark, thick head. Pours near black! Starts out very sour ,but not undrinkable. Finishes like a strong stout. Coffee, chocolate, bitter, all the good stuff! Quite thick, and the taste lingers for a while. To me it is very much a sipping beer.
If nothing else, this is worth a try once because it's so unique. Everything from the bottle art, to taste and appearance were different than anything I've ever tried.
So be cool and check out something different, with an open mind!

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4/5  rDev +3.9%

Photo of tjseveryday
5/5  rDev +29.9%

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4/5  rDev +3.9%

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5/5  rDev +29.9%

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5/5  rDev +29.9%

Photo of scoots511
4.33/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served out of a 22 oz bottle, oak barrel aged, blend #10 bottled 2-16-2011

A: Pours a nice stout head with dark browns intermingling with the bubbles. It settles out to a tan head.

S: Smells of Jolly Pumpkins sour/wild yeast, oak, and a touch of smoke. The smoke may come from the oak barrel or they may have used smoked grains. Its a little harder to pick out the other stout smells due to the wild yeast nose on this one.

T: Lots of flavors going on with this one. It really changes from the first taste on the tongue to after it is swallowed. Tastes of tart cherries from the sour yeast with some chocolate and some tannin flavors from the oak barrel. The smoke is in there very slightly. Doesn't taste like there is much residual sugars left that would make it sweet tasting nice balance into the dry side a bit, likely from using the wild yeast strains.

M: decently carbonated, active bubbling in the mouth especially felt on the front of the tongue.

O: My first taste of a wild yeast stout. I enjoy Jolly Pumpkin for pushing the limits of the definition of beer and doing it with grace. This one is a enjoyable, interesting (due to the depth of flavors), and fun beer to drink. Give this one a try if you're feeling adventourous and wanting to try a sour styled stout.

Photo of kjkinsey
2/5  rDev -48.1%

Photo of Verecund
1.72/5  rDev -55.3%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Blend 4 (Jan. 2011). Opened on November 11, 2011.

Huge gusher here. Poured as quickly as I could into my glass - managed to get 3-4 ounces in before the head brimmed over the lip. I poured more into a second glass. And guess what? The beer still managed to slow gush out of the bottle, even as only 4-6 ounces remained in it.

The beer itself has a massive lightly-tanned head. Dark, dark purple.

Oak, leather, licorice, and sour cherries on the nose. A tiny bit of chocolate, but this one has a fairly "spoiled" lactic acid plus funk nose.

Immediately tart, with some sweet and tart cherry. A good bit of roasted, bitter malts hit the mid-palate. Not a pleasant transition on the palate - to boot, I don't even like the opening note - with a woody/oaky finish. Some lactic acidity; lots of vinegar/acetic acid. Weird, spoiled fruit with the bitter and sweet chocolate just doesn't work.

Medium full with high carbonation.

I normally like JP, and I knew the style coming in, but this just doesn't do it for me: overcarbonated, too bitter, major sour milk component, disjointed. I drainpoured what the drain hadn't already claimed. I'm guessing this is better "fresh."

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4.25/5  rDev +10.4%

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5/5  rDev +29.9%

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4.5/5  rDev +16.9%

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4/5  rDev +3.9%

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4/5  rDev +3.9%

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4/5  rDev +3.9%

Photo of lokiikol
4.55/5  rDev +18.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5


Color: opaque, deep brown/black.

Head: thick, medium brown, heavy lacing and slow dissipation.

Aroma: briny and roasted flavors, with some fruit and bitter undertones.

Mouthfeel: medium body with some carbonation, fairly creamy but light.

Taste: intense sour flavor up front, giving way to strong roasted flavors and hints of red fruit. Although the wild-yeast (sour) flavor permeates the flavor throughout, and finish is definitely more of a stout quality, with coffee and dark notes outlasting the pucker for a long finish.

Overall: I would not have thought a Belgian-imperial-sour stout could have been pulled off at all, let alone as well as the Magrugada Obscura. Jolly Pumpkin has a created a very unique and distinctive brew here, well worth having once and many times afterwards (if you can find it).

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4/5  rDev +3.9%

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4/5  rDev +3.9%

Photo of mattgreger
4.8/5  rDev +24.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Enjoyed a bottle from Eulogy Tavern in Old City, Philadelphia

The pour on this brew was fantastic. It was super thick, and dark as oil. It had a nice two inch, mocha colored head. It had amazing retention. Some great lacing persued the brew as it was consumed.

The aroma on this brew follows the apparence well. It had a great funkiness. Some great notes were present, sour cherries, peaches, and some roasted chocolates. The notes that hit you last is a herb like hop arouma that finishes everything up very well. Its got amazing notes just popping from this glass.

The flavor on this brew is crazy. When it hits your mouth it's sour but as you begin to drink it, a fantastic smokey stout flavor roars in with a fine Belgian influence. It takes all the flavors and meshes them so well. The sour start makes the brew, giving you that pucker you expect with a sour, but in rushes that dark fruits and chocolate that just sweeten everything up perfectly. I never thought I could have had a sour stout, but wow.

This is pretty close to a full body brew. The carbonation is dead on and cuts the acids and the sweetness, rounding out a perfect brew.

Before searching this brew I saw someone write "who would have thought a sour stout could be so awesome??" Well they did...it was huge success in my eyes, and I will be sure to have it again, as well as now begin to search out more Jolly Pumpkin Brews. It was easy to drink.

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4/5  rDev +3.9%

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5/5  rDev +29.9%

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4/5  rDev +3.9%

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5/5  rDev +29.9%

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3/5  rDev -22.1%

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Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout from Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales
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