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Saranac Roggen Bock - Matt Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
81
good

32 Ratings
THE BROS
78
okay

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Ratings: 32
Reviews: 29
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 8%
Wants: 2
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Matt Brewing Company visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
Rye Beer |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 11-04-2004)
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Reviews by longpondbeerman:
Photo of longpondbeerman
3.48/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This bock pours a deep, rich reddish amber with less than a finger of off-white head. To the nose the initial redolence is the malts, informed mostly by rye, caramel and maple sweetness. The mouthfeel is rather thin, so it is clean, not creamy, in texture. The taste I found very consistent with the aroma, sweet and spicy. Dry.

longpondbeerman, Dec 11, 2004
More User Reviews:
Photo of blitz134
3.53/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Caramel color with red highlights. Poured a minimal just off white head that quickly disappeared to nothing. A definite rye character which is just a little sweet. Not much hop character and what is there smells a bit floral. Taste is actually decent (which is a good thing after their caramel porter I had to dump). Again some malty-rye characteristics are present which make this one sweet, possibly too sweet. A bit of hops in the finish add a touch of pine resin to this one. Flavors seem to coat the mouth well and linger for a bit. Mouthfeel is pretty full. Drinkability is just about average and brought down by the sweetness

blitz134, Feb 08, 2005
Photo of Jason
3.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Presentation: 12 oz brown bottle with no freshness date.

Appearance: Tawny brown hue, perfect clarity with a sticky light tan lace.

Smell: Mild cloying sweetness with a bready rye grain in the back.

Taste & Mouth Feel: Full bodied with a slight crispness and a creamy slick mouth feel. Sweet palate with a semi-astringent husk flavor, spicy hop bitterness melds well with the rye … odd watered down burnt sugar flavor in the finish.

Drinkability & Notes: Not half bad, I wish it wasn’t so sweet … pretty hard to drink. I think the rye gets muted because of the sweetness.

Jason, Feb 04, 2005
Photo of Billolick
3.45/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 ouncer sampled from their 12 beer sampler box, no freshness dating. Poures maple/almond, clear, tan head with decent retention, leaves some puffy lacing. Nose is faint, maple again and malty. Fairly bland lager, some maltyness comes thru, faint hint of rye, but this has that distinctive Saranac lack of distinction. Is it just me or do all their beers taste the same, no matter what it says on the label? Middle of the road sessioner, good brew to try with some newbies

Billolick, Dec 29, 2004
Photo of NJpadreFan
3.28/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Saranac Roggen Bock

A new offering from Saranac's holiday 12 pack.

Appearance- reddish amber with a weak fizzy head.
Smell- A slight rye/ carroway seed aroma. Light malt smell too.
Taste- very watery with a touch of rye flavor and a blend of weak hops and malt.

Overall- very similair to the Saranac Marzenbier. Once again mediocre at best. Won't try again though.

NJpadreFan, Nov 08, 2004
Photo of ElGordo
3.33/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep ruby red with a small, off-white head that fades pretty quickly. Rich, malty aroma accompanied by a hint of astringency. Palate is mild, with a fairly generic sweet malt character that develops a slightly astringent character towards the back of the mouth. Nice, smooth body. I've never had a roggenbier before, so I don't really know if this is true to the style or not, but it's pretty decent.

ElGordo, Jan 13, 2005
Photo of beerluvr
3.9/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours with a nice looking light tan head settling over clear lightish red liquid tinged with amber highlights. Sweet malt nose, lightly toasty and spicy with a slightly above average hop levels. Finishes up teasingly dry...not a bad offering from Saranac. A nice unobtrusive brew.

beerluvr, Dec 11, 2004
Photo of Southernbrew
3.6/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a red/brown with a 1/2" head.

Some malt in the aroma and a bit of rye spiciness.

Fairly smooth with a medium body. Roasted malts up front move to a faint sweetness then a light spicy rye flavor comes in. Finishes with a weak bitterness.

Not a bad beer, one of Saranac's better offerings.

Southernbrew, Jan 20, 2005
Photo of Backer2004
3.93/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Appears as a typical red ale with a nice head and lacing--a bit hazy though. Rich smell with rye malts brewed only with German hops. Spiced flavor and robust after taste -- really sparkles on the tongue. I would recommend this to complement a spicy Chinese or Cajun dish. Enjoyed this from beginning to end.

Backer2004, Nov 04, 2004
Photo of connecticutpoet
2.8/5  rDev -20%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

This was a deep reddish amber beer with a three finger head, and lacing.

The smell was of grains, a bit of rye malt, and some spicy hops. Not as much rye character as I had expected.

The taste was largely grainy... there was a slight rye bite, a bitter hop aftertaste, and a slight astringency... but if I had to do a blind guess, I would have guessed this was an adjunct lager. I was not impressed... I had thought a bock should have more richness, more body, more maltiness.

The mouthfeel was just average... nothing that clung to the tongue.

Poor drinkability. I was disappointed. This beer was one of the reasons I bought the Saranac 12 pack... I saved it for the next to last one... and it didn't deliver.

connecticutpoet, Jan 13, 2005
Photo of LarryV
4/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I found this to be a rather tasty brew. Poured with a dense, fine head that gradually dissipated to an 1/8 inch layer of fine fluff.

Clear, deep red color that initially looks almost opaque. Nose is pretty much straight ahead malt with the hops being barely discernible. Left a lattice of foam memories down the side of the glass while being consumed. Unlike others, I didn't find this to be overwhelmingly sweet. I thought it was rather nicely balanced with just enough hop bitterness coming through on the backend. My final thoughts when I polished it off - pretty nice brew.

LarryV, Jun 24, 2005
Photo of wailingwench
3.38/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Eye Candy: Amber-red with nice white fizzy 2 finger head. Decent retention with lacing.

The Nose Noses: Sweet malts but nothing special emerges.

Tonguland: I would describe this as a combo of a rye and their Amber. Smooth drinking, with a medium body. Medium roasted malt upfront, honey-like sweet middle, that gave way to bitter rye and finished medium-rich in typical Saranac fashion.

Bender Factor: I feel that aging and warming would help this out. A lot better than past Saranac seasonals.

wailingwench, Nov 10, 2004
Photo of shertzogovina
3.53/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A 12-oz long neck bottle from Saranac's variety 12-pack.
No freshness date , a little info about the beer on the neck label.
Pours dark amber with a nice 1 inch tan head. little lacing.
Smell is of mostly sweet malts.
Taste is malty with nice hop balance and very minor rye sting. body is very close to full, quite creamy with a bitter finish.
Beer is drinkable though i'm not sure i can have another one now.
A rare beer style that is worth a try.

shertzogovina, Mar 20, 2005
Photo of HappyHourHero
3.5/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Faint aroma, a bit malty and some rye, but you really have to concentrate. Decent fream colored head left a little bit of lace. Transparent, dark amber colored beer with a bit of carbonation action. Flavor is mostly malt, followed by some rye, and just a bit of spicy hops at the end. Lightly sweet all the way through, drys out a little towards the end. Soft, fairly light bodied beer, easy drinking. I was trying to figure out what a Roggen Bock was so I did some googling and came across the BJCP guidelines which says that "by German law must contain atleast 50% rye, although it may contain up to 70%" I was pretty dissapointed by this beer when I decided to look at the bottle, which said that Saranac"added a twist by using 20% rye malt".

HappyHourHero, Jan 28, 2005
Photo of WesWes
3.63/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours a ruby red color with a thin offwhite lace head. The aroma is good. It has a nice malty scent that boasts of toasted malts and caramel malts. It seems quite sweet. The taste is decent. It has a dry, yet malty flavor that has a toasted aftertaste. The mouthfeel is decent. It is a medium bodied beer with good carbonation. This is a decent beer, but nothing special.

WesWes, Nov 19, 2004
Photo of jhu1995
3.15/5  rDev -10%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance was an amber/brown color, slightly cloud, with minimal head and lacing. Rye aroma was dominant with some faint sweetness. Reminded of rye bread and actually gave me the craving for a ham and cheese on rye. Rye flavor was upfront but not completely overwhelming, with some mild sweetness at the end. A little rough in the mouth and to drink, but paired with a good sandwich with rye bread, this would make a good meal. Worth a try if you are looking for something different.

jhu1995, Feb 04, 2006
Photo of changeup45
3.63/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Much better than I thought it would be. Deep amber color, thick off-white head and lots of lace on the glass. Strong malty flavor up front, a little spicy as well, and sugary sweet with a somewhat sour aftertaste. I got this one in one of those mix 12 packs which can be a fun, affordable way to try different brews.

changeup45, Aug 24, 2008
Photo of tgbljb
3.18/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

poured a medium copper color with slightly off-white puffy head. Smell is fairly sweet with some toasted malt notes present. Taste is a little too sweet with hints of maple (?) present. Finished Sweet and smooth and refreshing. Kind of odd mixture of tastes. OK to drink

tgbljb, Aug 19, 2005
Photo of hobbes2112
3/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

12 oz bottle from the sample pack.

Pours a dark amber with small tan head. Low retention, lots-o-lacing.
Smell is not surprisingly a sweet/sour front mixed with rye grain. I have noted bready hints before, but this beer really smells like a piece a bread. Not much else in there though. This is the first of the rye style for me (that I know about) so I am going to have to call it average. Taste is again rye dominated, with a creamy somewhat bubbly mouthfeel. Decent hop in the finish, along with the long sour aftertaste that I guess is caused by rye.

I would say this is an interesting beer that might go well with some ruebens sandwhiches or even better a nice tart dessert.

hobbes2112, Feb 20, 2005
Photo of mschofield
3.48/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a dark clear red, topped with a one finger off-white head, leaves just a little lacing.
Clean aroma, cream, malt, rye, spicy note, herbs and flowers, fairly sweet.
Spicy and sweet taste, they say 20% rye malt - it does appear but I wouldn't have guessed it made up that much of the grain bill, caramel, roasty malt, floral note.
Medium bodied, smooth, but a bit too harsh and sweet in taste.

mschofield, Mar 30, 2005
Photo of NEhophead
3.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz brown bottle.

Foamy 1" slightly off white head that leaves a few condensed rings around the glass before fading. Above average retention. Spotted and condensed lacing with good strength. A thin ruby red in color with some shades of light brown.

A semi-bready malt character with a few spices: nutmeg, maybe cinnamon, and saffron. A touch of rye over a minor sweetness. The aromas are there but subdued.

Semi-sweet, thin tasting maltiness. A mild rye and wheat flavor. A semi-spicy and bready, moderate bitterness. A lighter tasting bock with a bit of a mild kick of spice. Rye and saffron in the aftertaste.

A medium bodied lager yet a bit lighter for a bock. An okay balanced between this lager's maltiness and the rye/graininess.

A mild tasting lager yet pretty unique. Nothing special but maybe worth a try due to the odd style. Glad I tried it, but I won't be going back.

NEhophead, Dec 04, 2004
Photo of shirfan
3.8/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

New beer # 2 from this year's sampler...

A blood red hue mingles with brown ale colors... clear, with a very thin head that does lace well for its size.

Aroma: thick malt, cookie dough, milk chocolate, confectionary sugar.

Taste: Chewy malt that folds in on itself and begs another sip. A frothy, latte texture carries lightly sweet and subtle notes of chocolate mousse, orange sugar candy, golden-brown toast. Nothing stands out, but instead several flavors shyly step behind each other as soon as they're noticed. Hints of spice and even smoke float in and out...a rough, undesired bitterness is faint enough to be mostly ignored.

Mouthfeel is extraordinary for Saranac... if the taste was a bit more robust I wouldn't believe they produced this.

shirfan, Dec 16, 2004
Photo of sideshowrob
3.75/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Culled from the "Saranac Twelve beers of Christmas" special package.

The brew poured a rather nice rich, reddish-dark amber. Great clarity. Pretty much no head to speak of. Smell is not overwhelming, but has a sweet, roasted-caramel hint to it. Taste is a nice change-up. The rye gives it a sour, tart taste. The sour is well balanced in the brew, but remains as the domminant note. A slight peppery-note on the back edge. Mouthfeel is good, but non-descript. Brew is easy to drink, though this is not likely to appeal to Saranac-Lager drinkers.

sideshowrob, Dec 13, 2004
Photo of RocketWidget
3.68/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This one is a surprising gem. Pours a deep brown-red color that is somewhat clear when held up to the light. Smell is just so-so. Taste is downright potent, and quite and intriguing. Spicy character throughout, but the rye element gives a taste that is boldly distinctive. Sweet character of the malt is only subtle, and only evident on the aftertaste. Mouthfeel of the beer seems like it has lots of particulates. Better than I thought it would be.

RocketWidget, Apr 13, 2005
Photo of sprackops
3.6/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Deep, dark red with sparse cream-colored head. Impressive coloration.

Smell: Light aroma of dark malts, rye and floral hops. Slightly peppery character to the nose.

Taste: Full presence of sweet caramel malts. Subtle spicy hops clean it up toward the finish. Some alcohol in the aftertaste.

Mouthfeel: Soft yet full-bodied with fairly high carbonation.

Drinkability: Moderate with the relatively high alcohol presence and body taken into consideration.

Comments: Interesting style, glad to see that a large craft brewery was willing to experiment with it. I'll be looking out for more beers using rye malt in the future.

sprackops, Jan 28, 2005
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Saranac Roggen Bock from Matt Brewing Company
81 out of 100 based on 32 ratings.