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Saranac Mocha Stout - Matt Brewing Company

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Saranac Mocha StoutSaranac Mocha Stout

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BA SCORE
80
good

99 Ratings
THE BROS
61
poor

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Ratings: 99
Reviews: 81
rAvg: 3.49
pDev: 13.47%
Wants: 5
Gots: 0 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Matt Brewing Company visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
Milk / Sweet Stout |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 11-18-2001)
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Photo of maxpower
2.13/5  rDev -39%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

pours thin black color, nice roasted coffee aroma, nice foamy head that leaves a nice lace in the glass, roasted bitter burnt chocolate-coffee flavors, something taste off, I might have a bad bottle, very watery and thin, not all that great.

maxpower, Dec 23, 2002
Photo of TheRuss9585
2.5/5  rDev -28.4%

TheRuss9585, Mar 28, 2012
Photo of kernalklink
2.53/5  rDev -27.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

What can you say- seems like another dumbed-down version of a classic from Saranac. The brew looks good on the pour, but the aromas are fleeting- their version of burnt caramel, dark chocolate dont work together- too sweet for the style. Didn't get even a hint of coffee flavor. But there was a kind of burning dryness on the tongue, followed by a watery finish; not sure how they managed that. At least it wasn't as thick as their other offerings.

kernalklink, Feb 05, 2007
Photo of JohnnyM2002
2.53/5  rDev -27.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Sampled from a 12 oz bottle into a snifter at 50 degrees.

A - Pours a dark black color with tan highlights. Small head that melted away to nothing.

S - At first, smells of a bitter, roasted coffee, but quickly fades away to a cocoa. Neither scent lasts too long as they become nothing more than a burnt aroma.

T - Biscuity cocoa dominate the flavors at first, but as with the smell, they quickly fade away and I get nothing more than a typical malty finish...very disappointing. The chocolate seemed to come right out and bite you at first, but it melted away very rapidly.

M - Medium body, but finished very thin...not much carbonation to speak of.

D - As keep buying the Saranac seasonal packs, I'm noticing a trend of similar tasting beers. This was the first of the new released (Brown, Rauchbier, Bock, Mocho Stout) I've tried, but I'm not overly enthusiastic about the rest. It's not bad by any means, but nothing special. Maybe Brooklyn's BCS spoiled me.

JohnnyM2002, Nov 21, 2006
Photo of Jason
2.55/5  rDev -26.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Presentation: 12 oz brown bottle with no freshness date.

Appearance: Nearly black in color with a big bubbled tan lace that sticks to the glass well.

Smell: Odd sweet aroma with a little malt and a vague roasted smell.

Taste & Mouth Feel: Astringent with a fake chocolate burnt malt character. Hops are little but anything. Finishes with a watery burnt flavor.

Drinkability & Notes: Why? I guess I just can’t grasp what they are trying to go for … an other miss in my book.

Jason, Feb 05, 2005
Photo of Stimack
2.65/5  rDev -24.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

This brew pours to a black color but does seem to allow a faint amount of light through. It has a smallish light tan head that leaves a fair amount of lacing down the sides of the glass. The aroma has a very sweet property along with a chocolate smell. Not picking up the coffee notes that are suggested in the title. The taste of this brew is disappointing; I was expecting something else I guess. Very sweet flavor that seems to be over done for me, has some roasted/burnt notes, I would say more burnt based on the aftertaste being somewhat bitter but I guess that could be hops playing out? Some slight coffee flavors are there along with chocolate which I would image lead to the over the top sweetness? This is a ok beer, not what I would want for a stout of this class, seems to sweet for me and that has lead to some poor taste properties. Normally Saranac hits the mark for being a solid brew on their different styles as in a good middle of the road brew, but for this one I think that they have missed.

Stimack, Dec 28, 2006
Photo of sprackops
2.68/5  rDev -23.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Presentation: 12oz brown bottle with no freshness date. Poured into a nonic pint glass.

Appearance: Opaque black with a light tan head.

Smell: Unusually sweet and not particularly roasty. Faint vanilla and lactic aroma. Strange.

Taste: Sweetened coffee and milk chocolate flavor right from the first sip. More vanilla. Hops seem to be sitting this one out.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied, light carbonation.

Drinkability/comments: This is a bit too sweet to have more than one. Honestly, I'm not entirely sure what to make of this one. Just a failed try at the flavored stout niche, I suppose. It might be a decent dessert beer.

sprackops, Feb 18, 2005
Photo of Billolick
2.7/5  rDev -22.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12 ouncer from the Holiday 12 pack. Pours very dark brown, almost black, with light coming thru, head is minimal and dark tan, some skimpy tight lacing observed. Nose is sugary caramel. This box has been a big dissapointment and this brew just adds to it. Watery, cloyingly sweet, nasty chalky finish, lacking any complexity and interest. Why is it that I dont feel like finishing any of the Saranac beers?

Billolick, Jan 07, 2005
Photo of Dapper_Dan_Man
2.75/5  rDev -21.2%

Dapper_Dan_Man, Aug 04, 2013
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2.75/5  rDev -21.2%

HRamz3, Nov 07, 2013
Photo of 99bottles
2.78/5  rDev -20.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Part of a mixed sampler pack. I chose to pour this in a pint glass. Dark brown body, shows some reddish tints in the light. A foreceful pour gives rise to a nice 3/4" of dark tan head that has above average retentioin and laces down the insides of the glass.

Smell: Quite weak for a stout, let alone one that's flaunting Mocha in the title. I smell some roasted malts and some faint acidity, and only the smallest hint of cocoa powder.

Taste: Unimpressive, tastes sugary and syrupy. This should be called a sweet stout. The roasted and black malt flavors look as if they should be here, but they don't combine to give it a rounded stout flavor. The mocha or chocolate notes are present, but are flat and taste almost artifical. Being a Saranac, I'm nearly certain that flavoring was added to the malts. Finishes with a slight bitterness, but not a satisfying one. Sigh.

Mouthfeel: This is what really knocked me. This didn't have the viscosity of a stout or the right carbonation for the flavor. It was too bubbly for a flavored stout. It was too light, and not flavorful enough.

Drinkability: Well, if nothing else this was an easy beer to drink. Nothing interesting to ponder over, nothing bold or flavorful to savor, nothing but thin and sweet stout through and through. That might do it for some, but I'd rather have one big stout done right than a six pack of these.

99bottles, Feb 14, 2005
Photo of Gmann
2.88/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured a black color with a thin tan head that dissipated quickly leaving some lacing. Not a very strong aroma, a light roasted smell. The taste was of caramel with roasted coffee, sweet not real bitter. Taste similar to the Green Mountain Mocha Nut Coffee that is available at work. It is full bodied and lighted carbonated. Not a bad offering though the mocha flavor seems a bit forced. Not something I would drink many of.

Gmann, Dec 23, 2006
Photo of hobbes2112
2.88/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

12 oz bottle from the sample pack.

I got this while on business in NY. When I first saw a sampler pack I was happy but when I saw that it was 12 unique beers ... Holy Crap! That is sweet.

Anyway, the mocha stout poured very dark brown with a small head. Leaves small amount of lacing. Smell is actually very tiny. I expected a lot more from a mocha stout, but what is there is a sweet milky presence. Similar to a Yoohoo (however that is spelled) Malts are mixed in also but pretty weak. Taste is chocolatey with a mildly bitter and roasty finish. After warming up there are more intense malt notes which certainly add to the somewhat thin character of this one.

I don't really see this adding much to any meal, possibly good with one of those triple chocolate brownies. Not a session beer at all. I guess the sample pack was the perfect way to try this one.

hobbes2112, Feb 18, 2005
Photo of MuddyFeet
2.98/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Had a bottle of this months ago and decided to have my second tonite. It tastes a lot better now than it did when i first tried it. Pours an almost jet black--maybe the slightest brown tinge. thick frothy head that dissipitates to almost nothing. Aroma is of off-burnt aromas. The hops are wierd in this beer. I can barely notice them in the flavor, but whenever I burp that is all I taste. Lots of smokey and burnt malts. Some strong coffee tones and milder chocolate ones. Mouthfeel is a tad watery. A shame because I think this could be a great bold stout. Slightly creamy finish but these hoppy burps are wierd.

MuddyFeet, Jul 20, 2005
Photo of RedChrome
2.98/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A very dark brown body. Half inch chesntut color head shrank quickly over a minute. To dark a beer to notice any carbonation rising. Small lacing spots down glass.

A very sweet roasted malt aroma. Has an strange aroma of coffee creamer. A light hint of dark caramel. A decent aroma overall with, but nothing to powerful.

Super bitter burnt coffee grinds dominate the flavor. An aftertaste leaves the sensation of a light plastic grit. Taste isn't horrible, but definitly not in line with the style.

Average thickness in a stout of this style. A moderate carbonation feel on the tongue.

Overall, an average beer. Drink this one by itself, or it will clash with what you are eating. The completly bitter taste of this beer is it's downfall. Pass on this for something else.

RedChrome, Jan 06, 2007
Photo of Luchman
2.98/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A 12 oz bottle, thanks to akorsak, poured into a small snifter.

A: Black color with a nice half inch, creamy, foamy, tan head. It does dissipate fairly quickly though, leaving only faint leftovers on the top.

S: Malts and some chocolate can be found. Sweet lactose and light hops are also in the nose.

T: Roasted malts, lactose taste, some chocolate and some light, bitter, hops. Has a dry “bite” and burnt grains at the end.

M: A little on the weak side and pretty thin. Carbonation is up there too.

D: Well, it is a very drinkable beer, but there is nothing very special about it. It did taste good, but nothing stood out. It was also a tad on the thin side. I wouldn’t call it a “mocha stout,” as I thought the “mocha” was lacking, but a mediocre sweet stout.

Luchman, Dec 15, 2006
Photo of djrn2
3/5  rDev -14%

djrn2, Dec 01, 2011
Photo of BuckeyeNation
3/5  rDev -14%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Dark chocolate brown with a generous sliver of dusky ruby along the bottom of the pint glass. Even though the sun won't completely crest the horizon for another few minutes, the beer looks to be opaque. Up above is an attractive crown of cinnamon colored foam that is exceptional when it comes to lace deposition.

Since mocha doesn't mean coffee, but rather a combination of both chocolate and coffee, Mocha Stout smells as advertised (more or less). As far as I can determine, the brewery didn't add coffee or coffee beans, they simply relied on the natural aromas and flavors that come from roasting barley. The nose isn't powerful and it's a bit musty besides.

Due to a shortage of malt and malt sugars (typical from these guys), SMS tastes more like an Irish dry stout than a milk or sweet stout. It's also on the simple side and has a musty, almost mineral-like, flavor that I associate with Euro dark lagers.

Getting back to the whole 'mocha' thing, coffee isn't any more prominent than bittersweet chocolate. Why the brewery decided to use this name, I have no idea. Maybe because when you have what seems like several hundred beers in your lineup, good names are hard to come by.

The barley bill includes chocolate, black and roasted. The lack of much roastedness, along with a less than stout mouthfeel, tells me that Matt Brewing wasn't exactly generous with the malt. The result is a thin chocolate-coffeeness that skates across the palate and is then gone with the swallow. A modest bitter nip finishes things off.

Again, the body/mouthfeel is less than substantial. While it isn't horrible for the ABV, it could stand to be beefed up and smoothed out. There's no problem with the middle-of-road carbonation.

Saranac Mocha Stout is par for the Matt Brewing Company course. It's inexpensive beer that tastes inexpensive. With Goose Island Oatmeal Stout (and any number of others) being as close as my local grocery, I won't be bothering with this one again.

BuckeyeNation, Mar 26, 2008
Photo of NJpadreFan
3.03/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Saranac Mocha Stout

Appearance- dark almost black with a weak tan head.
Smell- chocolate and coffee bean.
Taste- stingy, almost alcohol flavored chocolate.
Mouthfeel-A slighty bitter and warm feeling on the mouth and tongue.

Overall- a decent stout that didn't impress. Not very smooth like stouts should be.

NJpadreFan, Nov 10, 2004
Photo of plaid75
3.03/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured a deep deep brown hue with a one finger foamy tan head. There was decent retention and lacing.

The smell featured a buttery sweet chocolate aroma with a mild burnt grain.

The taste consisted of a sweet chocolate flavor with a hint of diacetyl. There was a mild sharpness and a pretty decent coffee bitterness in the finish.

The mouthfeel was a bit slick with a decent dry finish.

Overall a strange brew for sure. Not very appetizing until the finish, where the bitter coffee comes through. Too much bizarre sweetness upfront.

plaid75, Nov 07, 2006
Photo of bjohnson
3.03/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Pours a dark brown almost black. Nice cream colored head that has nice retention
S: Chocolate and mocha notes with a sweetness to them. Milkyness in there also.
T/M: Nestle cocoa sweetness with a slight twang of coffee ice cream. Slight roasted malt notes also. Odd taste this beer has, but I think that's the milkyness. Stinging carbonation with a bit of bitterness. Astringent with a fake chocolate/bitter coffee aftertaste. A bit thin.
D: At first I thought it was alright, however, the more I drank, the less I liked it. A bit too sharp and not smooth like a milk stout should be.

bjohnson, Dec 24, 2006
Photo of ZAP
3.05/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

-Interesting taste, but not very thick...kind of watery..not much aroma..decent flavor...slight vanilla undertone..not much mochoa..some burnt cocoa present, but very light..some hops on finish..not a powerhouse of flavor, but interesting none-the-less

ZAP, Dec 11, 2001
Photo of NEhophead
3.1/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz brown bottle.

Creamy lightly tan head with above average retention. Ringed and layered lacing with good strength. Chocolately brown, semi-opaque in color.

Dark coffee aromas; licorice. A burnt, semi-sweet maltiness. Also a peat smoked quality that's somewhat strong and unpleasant.

Caramel and coffee flavors with a smokey quality. There's also a big vanilla overtone from the beginning to the end of the sip, making this stout extremely sweet. A burnt bitterness which again quickly leads back to the overpowering vanilla aftertaste. Sickeningly sweet IMO, and it takes away from the coffee flavors of the stout.

Full bodied; smooth yet very sweet on the palate.

An interesting concoction yet way too loaded with vanilla flavor and abrasive sweetness. Too much for my tastebuds to have another. A unique brew but certainly flawed.

NEhophead, Dec 04, 2004
Photo of woodychandler
3.2/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

This started out with a beautiful, thick medium-brown head that fell away to wisps, leaving behind some nice sticky lacing. The nose reminded me instantly of Hershey's syrup and especially when ABC mixes their Cherry Chocolate Porter with said syrup. The color was a deep, dark brown which even a spotlight could not penetrate. The mouthfeel was thick and had a real chocolaty taste on the palate. The finish had a graininess to it, especially in the back of the throat. I am not sure whether that was a negative or neutral. It would not be a selling point for me, definitely not. The extreme finish had a sour, charcoal bite. Oof. This may be a one-and-done.

woodychandler, Mar 07, 2007
Photo of hero27
3.23/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle.

Deep brown, nearly black. Pitted, tan head that leaves a nice layer of lacing behind it.
Chocolate comes through on the aroma..with just a bit of roasted malt wafting out.
Chocolate malt flavor, sort of coffee-ish, but overall the flavor is more sweet than bitter.
Mouthfeel is a little thin..slightly sweet finish.
The first couple sips were pretty good, but it's rather cloying and doesn't really make me yearn to grab another. I think they should add some hops to kickstart a little bitterness to help balance this out.

But overall, a pretty decent offering from Saranac.

hero27, Jun 18, 2007
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Saranac Mocha Stout from Matt Brewing Company
80 out of 100 based on 99 ratings.