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Saranac 4059' Porter - Matt Brewing Company / Saranac Brewery

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Saranac 4059' PorterSaranac 4059' Porter

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Reviews: 59
Hads: 237
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 13.14%
Wants: 2
Gots: 17 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Matt Brewing Company / Saranac Brewery visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
English Porter |  5.20% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: plaid75 on 10-29-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Standing 4059' above sea level, one of the Adirondack high peaks, Porter Mountain, is the inspiration for our 4059' Porter that is full of roasted flavor. Brewed with English chocolate malt and English hops, you'll taste roasted coffee and chocolate flavors from the malt balanced with a slight hop bitterness. Whether you're up at 4059' or at sea level, this style will have your taste buds climbing with excitement!

42 IBU
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Reviews: 59 | Hads: 237
Photo of TheWapakian
2.16/5  rDev -38.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Smell: Hint of coffee and old library books
Taste: Hint of malt up front followed a boozy / metallic finish

If you love Guinness stout you may like this one. The sad thing is that the follow-up beer burps were more tasty than the beer itself. I don't think I will pick this one up again unless it is part of a sampler pack. (324 characters)

Photo of mikeg67
2.4/5  rDev -31.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

12 oz bottle from a verity pack. Pours black with a long-lived off-white head. Aroma is of bready and toasted malt, hints of vanilla and chocolate. Body is full and smooth. Taste is minerals, paper, some roasted malt and earthy hops. Finish is long and unpleasant. I’m never buying Saranac again. Nice drain pour. (315 characters)

Photo of kojevergas
2.46/5  rDev -29.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.25

12 fl oz brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a nonical pint glass in me gaff in high altitude Castle Rock, Colorado. Reviewed live. Expectations are below average on account of the brewery.

Served straight from the fridge and side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a 4+ finger head of khaki-tan colour, nice cream and thickness, and good retention - though it seems overcarbonated. Body colour is a dark amber-black. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Nontransparent; opaque.

Sm: Dark malts, slight artificial hints of roast, and stale biscuit malt. Dark cocoa notes. I guess a bit of coffee is detectable. Simple, boring, and bland. An average strength aroma. Underwhelming for a porter.

T: Artificial roast alongside some underwhelming slightly stale dark malts and chocolate malts, with a bit of cocoa. Middling balance. Lazy build for the style. Flavour depth is low. Duration and intensity of flavour are about average. Simple as a porter can be. Very boring and bland. No yeast character, hop character, or alcohol comes through. Why brew this?

Mf: Smooth, wet, and thin. Undercarbonated. Too thick. Poor palate presentation. Okay body.

Dr: Drinkable but forgettable and disappointing. Another crappy brew from Saranac/Matt. I wouldn't trifle with this again. I'll have no trouble finishing the bottle, and it's not so awful you couldn't cook with it.

D+ (1,451 characters)

Photo of 401J
2.6/5  rDev -25.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Never met a porter i didn't really love..

Until today.

Poured a nice 2 finger foamy head with light ring lacing..

Strange nose.. Mild, undefinative.. Coffee, and also something dry and peppery.

Malts up front followed a boozy,metallic finish.. I would need to be at the altitude advertised on this bottle or high as a kite to enjoy this.. Damn, what a dissapointing craft pack.. This is beer #4.. 2 to go (408 characters)

Photo of JMB22
2.8/5  rDev -20%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Out of a variety pack poured into a pint glass...

Overall this is not terrible, but not really up to what I've come to expect from FX Matt

It felt a bit on the carbonated side for a Porter. The head was quite nice but didn't last too long. The glass was nicely laced t the end though. It feels a little light for a porter, but tastes like a porter. I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm a bit confused on this one and have mixed emotions. Bottom line, don't be afraid of it in a mix pack. I intend to give this another try, and will update this if necessary. (560 characters)

Photo of devilben02
2.91/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

Pours from the bottle with a rich, opaque, dark-chocolate brown color, with a sufficient foamy, sand-colored head. The aroma presents milk chocolate, some oaty grains, and a little bit of vanilla. In contrast, however, the flavor is the liquid equivalent to burnt toast, with a grainy, assertive bitterness. There is also some of the chocolate from the aroma (albeit not as pronounced), but there is not enough to counter the over-roasted bitter character. The texture helps, with a medium body and fine but soft carbonation. In the end, though, even if the goal was to make a smack-you-in-the-face robust porter, there is just too much of the over-roasted character to be enjoyable. (683 characters)

Photo of tbruchey2112
3.01/5  rDev -14%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Underwhelmed. Nice sweet, typical porter taste when it first hits your tongue. Strange spicy aftertaste. Glad I got to try it in the winter sampler but not sure if I'd buy more of this variety.

I do really like the name. That is of course after I googled it and figured it out what it meant hahahahaha. (304 characters)

Photo of Kremlock
3.02/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured in a tulip glass

A: Pours a very dark body. Held to the light you barely get a dark ruby red at the bottom of the glass. Head pours at about 1 inch think and approximately 2 minutes after untouched it's at a 1/4 inch. Head is off white like Irish cream.

S: Very roasty with some chocolate and a coffee background. Some bready character to it, sort of like a pumpernickel bread.

T: Malt flavours are light but the burned coffee, chocolate and roastyness is coming through. There is a dry finish to the roasted grains at the end. Late in the taste there is a grainy flavour that comes through.

M: Medium-low mouthfeel, medium carbonation, high bitterness is well balanced for the strong roastyness.

O: IMO this robust porter is missing the maltyness needed to balance its roasted and chocolate grains. Other then that it's something I could very well enjoy but not seek out. (886 characters)

Photo of Minkybut
3.04/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

I had high hopes for this beer but was disappointed for sure. The beer poured a nice black color with a falling nice head. However the head was gone really only after like 3 swigs. The beer tasted flat to me and my wife. However the beer smelled bready and fresh? The beer had a bit of bitter after taste. I really got no goodness out of this beer and while it was drinkable it will not be on my buy again list. (411 characters)

Photo of Stinkypuss
3.12/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

Pours a dark brown with good clarity. Off white head forms and leaves some lacing. Aroma of roasted malts and dark bread. In the taste, nutty malts with some roasted qualities. Faint bakers chocolate and dry grain. Medium bodied feel but flavor is too bland and watery. Medium bodied, thin for the style. Overall, the flavor was fine but too watered down, stronger character could make this a winner. (400 characters)

Photo of mitch3114
3.12/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

From Saranac assorted holiday gift pack

Bottle into wine glass...fancy on Christmas!

A- Beautiful dark brown with a bit of a ruby hue where the light shines through near the bottom. A nice powdered cocoa color head, light but nice color and fluffy.

S- The chocolate smell is dominant over the roasted scents and there is a hint of fruits a small dash of hops and another smell that reminds me of Belgian yeast.

T- Tastes of roasted malts. All flavors are quite subdued and nothing really stands out. I let this warm up and nothing really comes out. Quite bland. Not bad, just not interesting.

M- Mouthfeel is a bit thin for a porter. I was expecting some more smooth, rich creamy textures, but it also fell short on this category.

O- Overall, this may just be the best out of the other five in the assorted holiday gift pack (no, I am not a fan of their flagship pale ale. One of my first craft beers and one that I revisit at least once a year, but it never gets better for me). It's simply very plain and uninteresting. There certainly aren't any characteristics that are memorable. (1,090 characters)

Photo of claspada
3.13/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours a fairly dark brown color with a small amount of foamy tan head that receded at an average pace leaving some spotty lacing.

Aromas begin with light amounts of dark chocolate malt and toffee. Then you get a little grainy maltiness and a metallic twang.

The tastes follow the nose with light amounts of dark roasted malts, cocoa, and toffee. Some fruity English esters emerge as well as some grainy pilsnery maltiness which comes across almost like cola.

The mouthfeel was on the light end of medium bodied with medium carbonation. The finish is clean, soft and on the drier end.

Overall this is not horrible but quite forgettable in a seas of American craft beers. I would much rather splurge the entra couple bucks and get a Fuller's London Porter if I wanted and English porter as that has a much more full flavor profile. (836 characters)

Photo of Dodt
3.13/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

cola colored with a nice thick rich head that the lacing that clings to the glass. coffee is the stronger presents in this beer that can over shadow the malts . the smell is a bit of chocolate and coffee. the bitterness for me is nice .can't wait to review the remaining beers in this seasonal pack (298 characters)

Photo of BEERchitect
3.13/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Blurring the line of where porter meets stout is the area that the Matt brewery flirts with in the recipe formulation and brewing execution of 4059' Porter.

And like any beer that would ride that line, the beer pours with a dark brown, mirror onyx-like sheen. Seeming clear, the sheer darkness keeps light from impeding. A frothy light mocha tan head separates from the beer and caps the rim of the glass with medium-strong retention and intricate lacing to start. But the beer seems to loose its structure later in the session.

Heavy toast, light roast, and a twangy malt scent start up the aromatics; and do so with a backup of cocoa, roasted nuts, burnt caramel, and cola. Columbian coffee and a grainy-tart twinge keeps things zesty and bright.

Characteristically porter, the taste of coffee, cocoa, and toast lead the way. But then the balance tilts to stout as the taste of burnt embers and mild roasted grain come into play. Light acidity turns modestly sour in finish and becomes a mild grainy distraction to the taste. Malty starches fade early and leave a thinly sweet cola taste to carry on in finish. Firmly bitter, the beer cleverly never reveals whether this is because of hops or roasted grain.

Medium bodied, at least to start- the beer builds and then releases its creamy malt body way too quickly. The remaining mouth sensations are thin, grainy, astringent, and harshly bitter. Alcohol warmth is unsupported and cola thinness replaces malty-dryness for an unsettled and lingering grain sweetness.

Where I could have easily been talked into the seduction of porter/stout interplay, the lack of malt support and harsh astringency makes me give up on the argument at middle palate. It's not an unpleasant beer, just not one I'll reach for when wanting porter. (1,780 characters)

Photo of beyah
3.14/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Appearance: Dark as cola, not much head, lacing good
Smell: Caramel, roasted grains bit burnt.
Taste: Porter like bit like a Stout as well.
Might get again. (157 characters)

Photo of HalfFull
3.15/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle from Winter Mixed pack served into a pint glass. The 4059' pours a deep dark brown with just a hint of ruby in the light. A thin mocha cap dissipates swiftly.

Nose of light chocolate and some hops through the short lived foam or after a good spin. Then offering a firm roast character and even a hint of ash. Taste follows with roasted malts dominant, a spritzy caramel/dark fruit in the middle and a light lingering ashy roast on the finish. The ash/burnt flavors are light enough to be a positive development here and not an overriding factor. Still the flavor doesn't offer up much depth or complexity. Feel is coarse and shows just a hint of fruitiness common in English Porters a la Sam Smith's. Overall decent but hardly memorable. (745 characters)

Photo of Act25
3.18/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Agree with most others here. Saranac tends to the metallic and so will stop purchasing it.
It's the "budget craft" around here.

Appearance - hard to screw up a porter.
Smell - Better.
Taste - metallic, Fracking?
Feel - thin compared with other porters.
Overall - Not bad for budget craft, but you get what you pay for. Their black N Tan is better.

Keep trying Saranac in "hope" of a bargain, but it's usually worth spending a $1 more a 6 pack for something more quality, like Avery or River Horse or even Anchor Steam.

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Photo of BurgeoningBrewhead
3.24/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured from 12oz bottle into porter/stout glass. Dark brown like coffee that lets no light through with a fast-disappearing fizzy tan head. Leaves a surprising amount of lacing. Smells of sour roasted malt and coffee. Taste seems to have a hole in it; not sure what to think. It finishes with bitter chocolate and coffee, but there's something missing. Mouthfeel is good for the style. Overall it's not the best porter I've had, but certainly far from the worst. It's Saranac, it can't be bad. (493 characters)

Photo of Samp01
3.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

12oz bottle thanks mike67. Pours black with a medium tan head. Aroma and Taste is of sweet roasted caramel malt, with some mild slightly burnt coffee with some mild bitterness. Palate is a medium body with moderate carbonation. Finishes with a roasted caramel malt and some burnt coffee flavor and mild bitterness same as taste. Not as robust as some other Porters but overall a good porter. (391 characters)

Photo of auxiliary
3.43/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - Black with a tan head, settled to a ring and left some lace on the glass.

Smell - Unsweetned dark chocolate, and espresso

Taste - Chocolate taste unsweetned, bitter.

Mouthfeel - Medium body feel, bitterness.

Overall - it is what it is, a porter.. Chocolate and some bitterness. (296 characters)

Photo of papaglide
3.45/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A- Pours with the same consistent Saranac head: 1 finger, quick to diminish.

S- sweet roasted malt, chocolate, baking bread

T- roasted and somewhat hoppy at first with some licorice blended in. Dry finish with a nice toastiness lingering.

M- seems a little over carbonated to me, bubbly and sort of thin with astringent and bitter overtones. I didn't enjoy this.

O- stouts and porters are 2 of my favorite styles yet I can't seem to get my head wrapped around this beer. Stegmeier Porter with a more pronounced roasted taste maybe? To be honest I was kind of disappointed with this one. Pouring it into my pint glass it showed so much promise yet the astringent bitterness and seemingly over carbonation left me wanting for much more. (740 characters)

Photo of MadScientist
3.46/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: A very dark brown with garnet highlights and good clarity. The persistent head is made of a creamy, compact bubbles that are light brown.

S: Moderate caramel and chocolate malt aromas with a moderate earthy and slightly spicy hops aroma. The malt has a light roastiness and a bit of nuttiness to it. There is a moderately-light dark fruit aroma and a slight alcohol aroma.

T: A smooth moderate malt with flavors of bakers chocolate, some coffee and a touch of caramel. There is a moderate hops bitterness and a light earth hops flavor. The balance is slight towards the bitter and the finish is off-dry. There aftertaste is of chocolate and a light bitterness.

M: A moderate creaminess with a medium-full body and moderate carbonation.

O: A good Brown Porter with a good blend of roasted and chocolate malt flavors. (825 characters)

Photo of alexgash
3.47/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle.

Amber to cola brown body. Clear. Half finger of gauzy, light khaki head. Some lacing. Roasted barley, chicory, fading coffee, a little peat, and milk chocolate on the nose. Smell is "light" for a porter, but not bad.

Slightly metallic, roasted malts up front. Chalky and bitter. Hints of dark chocolate. Faint caramel sweetness flashes mid-palate. Roasted, chalky bitterness takes over the finish. Moderate body, with a rather creamy feel. Not bad, but forgettable. (482 characters)

Photo of tdm168
3.5/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - dark brownish black with a soft cap of brownish, off white head

S - burnt sugar, roasted malts, caramel, coffee

T - roasted malts, bitter, faint coffee

M - medium to full bodied, a bit crisp and a tad overcarbonated

This is a decent, full flavored porter. My only complaint is that it's too bitter. The bitterness seems to come more from a roasted malt/coffee character rather than the hop character. Overall, it's worth trying but a bit of balance would have been preferred. (483 characters)

Photo of watermelon
3.5/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

12 oz bottle poured into a Nonic pint glass. Date on bottle says best by March/31/2014

A: Body is a dark brown almost black with no light penetrating through. Pour resulted in a Foamy 3 finger dark khaki head that left tons of lacing on the sides of the glass.

S: Light hints of chocolate. Pretty weak in the nose.

T: Smoked malts with a good bit of hop bitterness.

M: Pretty thin for a porter, goes down easy, and has little carbonation leaves a nice feeling on the teeth.

O: This is alright. I wasn't blown away by it. Looks amazing but the nose taste and mouthfeel were all lacking. (593 characters)

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Saranac 4059' Porter from Matt Brewing Company / Saranac Brewery
80 out of 100 based on 59 ratings.