Goose Island Baudoinia - Fulton & Wood Series (Fungus BCBS)

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  1. Sarlacc83

    Sarlacc83 Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2008 Oregon

    GI does distribute to Oregon. Their stuff sits on the shelves if it doesn't have BCS on it.

    And stupid comments aside, when Rogue did their brewer's beard yeast, it was a gimmick. GI does it with barrel fungus, and it's awesome. You can't argue GI 'trolls' us and gets away with it. They received their blank check with Rare.
     
  2. Dope

    Dope Pooh-Bah (2,751) Oct 5, 2010 Massachusetts
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    I was just thinking that myself. In fact I was wondering if this news was a joke given the name, but I guess not! Brett Porter, too funny - guess he was born to be a brewer. Maybe someone should try that one out...

    Dope
     
  3. Bay01

    Bay01 Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2008 Illinois

    They did make a Brett Porter actually, but the beer didn't turn out as hoped and they dumped it.
     
  4. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Initiate (0) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    Lets stop crying children.

    And btw, Rare wasn't that great
     
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  5. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Initiate (0) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania


    well, that settles that debate.
     
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  6. jbland21

    jbland21 Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2012 Illinois

    That's because if it doesn't have BCS on it it is most likely their year-round offerings...which usually sit on shelves throughout the year anywhere.
     
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  7. foobula

    foobula Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    For the record, I don't think the fungus is supposed to be in the beer, just on the outside of the barrel. It thrives in low ethanol environments, not high ones like you'd find inside a barrel. I think this beer is sort of a sneaky admission on GI's part that regular BC"B"S is no longer 100% BBA, while Baudoinia is, putting aside any alleged benefits of being a bottom-of-the-rack barrel.
     
  8. weatherdog

    weatherdog Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2007 Illinois

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  9. Mjmoser

    Mjmoser Initiate (0) May 6, 2012 Illinois

    Am I missing something here?
     
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  10. foobula

    foobula Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    BCS is a blend. 3% of that blend is Wheat Whiskey BCS, deemed unsuitable for its own release (despite GI's previous commitment to do so, per the 2012 Beer Calendar.) I assume that the remaining 97% may or may not be all bourbon barrels. I think calling it Bourbon County "Brand" Stout gives them a lot of leeway in the types of barrels used. It's just a brand name, not a factual description of the ingredients or production process.
     
  11. foobula

    foobula Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    OTOH Baudoinia is marketed as being 100% heaven hill barrels from the bottom of the rack. So it's 100% BBA which BCS is not.
     
  12. weatherdog

    weatherdog Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2007 Illinois

    No one is saying that. Look at Cherry and Bramble. Those were aged in Rye barrels, not Bourbon yet no one has a problem with the 'Bourbon County' name. The problem I have is your complete asinine and unfounded accusation that it isn't, or in the future won't be 100% barrel aged.

    That is unless I'm misinterpreting you and I assumed you meant 100% barrel aged when your undefined and unused acronym of BBA stood for "Bourbon Barrel Aged"
     
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  13. foobula

    foobula Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    Yeah I thought the extra B in BBA stood for Bourbon. It doesn't?

    But regardless, hypothetically speaking, even if it weren't 100% BA, I think they could still market it as BCBS, no problem, because the marketing material I see on the web makes no such claim.
     
  14. foobula

    foobula Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    No drugs, just ethanol and a few spores of Baudoinia for good measure.
     
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  15. tinypyramids

    tinypyramids Pundit (897) Jul 19, 2012 Illinois

    i haven't had any reason to doubt that bcbs is 100% barrel aged. it might not all be the same type of barrels, but nothing i've had in the flavour profile would suggest to me otherwise. but even then, i don't really care as long as they make beer that tastes as amazing as bcbs '11 and '12 did fresh (and still do).
     
  16. foobula

    foobula Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    ^^^ agreed. Not trying to be critical of regular BCBS, just making the point that the relative deliciousness of Baudoinia may not come from the moldiness or the bottom rackness of it, rather the 100% bourbonness vs. Regular BCBS'12. I don't care what kind of barrels are used, as long as the end result is amazing, which Bourbon County Stout consistently is.

    Edit: Though I much preferred Baudoinia to Buffalo Trace BCS. So maybe there is something to the low storage thing. Regardless, I think I've raised some valid points. Perhaps calling GI "sneaky" was unnecessary, I'm just saying these aren't the exact same beers aged at slightly differing altitudes.
     
  17. CelticAleMan

    CelticAleMan Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California

    He isn't saying that it is not 100% barrel aged, he is saying that 3% of the barrels are wheat whiskey barrels, produced in the same manner as bourbon barrels. I doubt anyone could tell the difference if something was only 97% bourbon/3% wheat whiskey barrel aged vs. 100% bourbon barrel aged.
     
  18. foobula

    foobula Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    I feel confident that it is 100% barrel aged, given Goose's apparent transparency with YouTube videos and brewers being completely honest with customers. Two questions I have, before I hit the hay, are: 1) If Wheat Whiskey wasn't good enough to release on its own (too hot or whatever) does its presence adversely affect the taste of BCBS'12 and 2) would a side-by-side of Baudoinia (lowest rack) vs. Heaven Hill BCBS (all rack levels) reveal a meaningful difference? Obviously the brewers seem to think so, but that's not an experiment the public can recreate.
     
  19. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    Where do you get this idea that they blended in 3% wheat whiskey BCBS?
     
  20. foobula

    foobula Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2009 Illinois

    Laffler and another brewer at the 6pm session, Black Friday event. The other guy said he fought to have Wheat Whiskey released on its own, even if it was too hot.
     
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