The Averagely Perfect American IPA Project - Poll #12- Flavor/Aroma Hop Nationalities

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, Jan 28, 2013.

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Limit Flavor and Aroma Hops to American Varieties only?

Poll closed Jan 30, 2013.
  1. Yes

    78.5%
  2. No

    21.5%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Now begins the long, arduous task of hops selection. This will take a while. First, let's see if the crowd wants to narrow the field for Flavor/Aroma hops by specifying American varieties only. By American varieties, I mean hops that are cultivated mainly in North America and are not generally associated with another continent. For example, US Saaz would not be an American variety for our purposes. Some may wonder why I'm even asking this question, but with Nelson Sauvin and perhaps a few other foreign hops finding their way into American IPAs, I thought we'd better make sure.

    This poll will be open for 48 hours.

    If you don't know what this thread is about, please see this thread...
    http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-averagely-perfect-american-ipa-project.59552/

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please Beer Mail me.
    Let's keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand (not about how you would have asked the question differently). I will not address methodology questions in the forum any more. I'm not going to risk having a thread deleted due to a flame war. If this irks you, please consider not playing.

    The Averagely Perfect American IPA Recipe so far...
    5 Gallons
    Target ABV: 6.5%
    Target OG: 1.062
    Target FG: 1.012
    Apparent Attenuation: 81%
    Recommended Mash Temp: 151F

    Grain Bill:
    Two-Row Brewer's Malt (92%)
    Crystal 40 (5%)
    Carapils (3%)

    Yeast:
    Wyeast 1056/WLP001/US-05
     
  2. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,853) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    I am loving the AU/NZ varieites now layered in with some "C" hops or Amarillo. One of the best IPAs I have made to date was a combination of US and English varities. Given both of those experiences I would like to see a blend of multiple countries here.
     
  3. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,326) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    I vote for American hops because they'll either already be had, or be easier to get, or cheeper. Or something. At least we can chant USA! USA! USA! once we've made our beer. :rolling_eyes:
     
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  4. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,841) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    I said no because Galaxy should be in the mix...
     
  5. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I said yes... The Australian and New Zealand hop varieties are great but this beer was made what it is today by America... USA, USA, USA !!!!! (said with a thumb up, in Jim Duggin's voice, with a 2x4 on my shoulder, and an American flag wrestler bikini on.) :angry:
     
  6. Travisurfin247

    Travisurfin247 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2010 South Carolina

    The APA IPA = American Hops!

    USA! USA! USA!
     
  7. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,326) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Catchy, isn't it? :sunglasses:
     
  8. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,274) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    The averagely AMERICAN IPA should be hopped with.... anarctic hops?
     
  9. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,271) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    The very idea of an 'Averagely Perfect American IPA' without perfectly average American hops would be...on average...the perfect oxymoron.
     
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  10. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,176) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Trying to figure out Herbmeowing's riddle. I voted yes... I mean no...nutz. Duped by an oxymoron.
     
  11. Darthballs

    Darthballs Aspirant (289) Feb 4, 2011 Missouri

    late on the thread but I'll vote for the USA.
     
  12. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,099) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    thats one vote to single hop with cascades.
     
  13. good_gracious

    good_gracious Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2012 Maryland

    All American for me. Incidentally I'll be "dry feathering" with bald eagle wings and sustaining my boil with the exhaust of a 427 big block
     
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  14. brewsader

    brewsader Initiate (0) Dec 7, 2012 New York

    just out of curiosity, (ballpark) how many people are actually brewing this thing?
     
  15. yinzer

    yinzer Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2006 Pennsylvania

    My guess is take the number of chronic posters x 3.

    There are a lot of people who lurk. You can see that

    Maybe that should be the last question. I will at some point and I'll try to get a sample to VikeMan.
     
  16. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    I went with the norm on this one...'murica
     
  17. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,176) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I expect I'll try the next time I brew an IPA. That probably won't be for several months though, so I won't be among the first to have brewed it. Assuming there are no obvious flaws in the recipe, newbies who ask about IPA recipes might get directed to it. It would be easy enough to develop an extract version. Maybe that's why Vikeman was asking about differences in light and extra light extracts a few days ago?

    OP: "I'm a newbie looking for a good IPA recipe for my first homebrew"
    Response1: "Start here: <url for final recipe, extract version>"
    Response 2: "Yeah, but use some New Zealand hops, dude!"
    Resonse 3: "And cut the carapils. That stuffs a waste."
    Etc....
     
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  18. good_gracious

    good_gracious Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2012 Maryland

    I'm a part time poster (of questions usually, not answers :slight_smile:) and a full time lurker. I find I can learn more from you guys' banter than from answers to some dumb question I may post. Not sure how that figures into your calculation

    I've done a lot of recipe conversions from AG to extract or AG to partial mash so maybe I'll throw in my two cents at that time
     
  19. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    1-11!

    DA! DA! CA-NA-DA!! NYET! NYET! SO-VI-ET!!
     
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  20. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,326) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Methinks this one's a wrap. :rolling_eyes:
     
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