Discussion in 'US - Pacific' started by sandiego67, Mar 3, 2013.
They are opening Wednesday.
We sure they didn't accidentally use a dyslexic contractor?
the photo's just upside down
Is 83 degrees the temperature at which craft beer burns?
I'm gonna be in Carlsbad next month for a few days.
Someone sell me on why I should stop at this place? I've never heard of it.
You probably shouldn't. Just go to Pizza Port instead.
"83 degrees" attempted to knock off the name of Los Angeles' 38 Degrees and just put a Carlsbad at the end of it. Fuck them.
Why don't you walk in the doors and try the place next week before you shit all over it? At this point, the owner has made the right choice and changed the name.
If the place is crappy after it opens, then you can go ahead and bitch.
Props to the owner for changing the name but that name is stupid.
You tree huggers should be happy that he decided to recycle the signage instead of dumping a big orange "8" and a big orange "3" in the local landfill.
If he figures out a meaning for the 83 degrees, I'll definitely go.
Apparently, a lot of people seem to like the reference.
Hopefully this place is closed within a few months.
This is just a bunch of companies that use "83 Degrees" in their company name; it does little to shed any light on "reference". I can name a beer bar Syphillis and you can possibly find other business' that have the word "Syphillis" in their name, but it provides no reference why I named my beer bar Syphillis.
Because it took this long and the 11th hour legal threat to change it shows more about the man's character and business practice that you can tell if it's a duck if it walks and talks like one?
It's across the street from Pizza Port. Definitely couldn't hurt to take a look in there.
It took less than 30 days to change out his business name, logo. marketing, signage. Sounds like he really dragged his feet.
The story came to light in mid-February.
Friday was my first time at PP Carlsbad. I had heard this story a few weeks ago but had no idea that the establishment at issue was in such close proximity to PP. I saw the [new 83] sign, it clicked in my head, and I lolled.
Couldn't the owner of the Carlsbad location simply change the name to "38 degrees Kelvin"?
Or "38 degrees of Kevin Bacon"?
Now why would you wish that on somebody trying to open a business??
Because the owner tried to snipe an existing (and popular) beer bar's name up north, fully knowing the original owner was dumb enough not to trademark the name. Smart business? maybe. Total slimy asshole move? Completely.
I am all for slimy asshole owners not having a successful craft beer business.
He changed the name. Sure he changed it to a dumb name but signs are very expensive. He could have easily kept the 38 degrees name if he really wanted to.
Side note- There are thousands of smiley assholes that have a successful craft beer business lol.
I can't wait for his next restaurant to open up - Slater's 51/49...
Slater's 51/49 is nowhere near as tasty as Out N' In Burger.
The most prevalent mention of 83 degrees is a promotional magazine for Tampa, Florida (I am guessing that number refers to their average high temperature or something like that). Maybe he has plans on bringing some Cigar City beers to San Diego!
it is the temp at which beer exits your body
If only he'd spelled out "thirty eight degrees." Then he could've renamed it "Greedy Heights" or something.
I saw this when I was at PP on Friday. Funny.
I live right up the street from this place (and obviously Pizza Port). I'm bummed about how this whole thing went down. We can really use additional interesting options in the neighborhood, and this guy has blown it. I'd be more encouraged if his previous restaurant in this space hadn't been a failure, and if he'd handled this naming issue more professionally. I'll be curious to see what tap handles he's able to get.
It is the same owner as the wine bar, Paon. He has one decent restaurant (Paon) and one failure (The Catch) on his resume. Since he deals in high-end wines, I hope that he figures out the local beer scene.
^ Yeah, I know. Paon is actually doing well, and though I've only eaten in the lounge, it's well executed. Catch was such an aesthetic nightmare, I'm wondering if they had a consultant for Paon and then tried to go solo. I'm a bit ambivalent about 83 degrees now. I want to support a local biz, but he's making it hard. I wish Compass had a bit better food menu, because their tap list is usually strong and I like the vibe.
A little local press for Beeradvocate.com and " a Carlsbad local".
These people first named their first restaurant in Carlsbad (now Paon) Per Se, until they got a similar love letter from Thomas Keller in New York about using the name of his world famous restaurant.
Next, they take the name "Catch" from a seafood restaurant in Santa Monica and place it on their now defunct seafood restaurant in Carlsbad.
You can bet their hopeful use of the name 38 Degrees was of like ingenuity.
When they opened Paon, they took the chef and the EXACT same menu from another restaurant in San Diego, where one of the Paon partners worked for a long time.
Damn. Boosting more ideas. Well, 83 degrees has an open banner up, and while driving past I saw what looked like a lot of tap handles through a garage style door open to the street. I'll take a look.
That restaurant would be the WineSellar & Brasserie. I guess this is Mayur Pavagadhi's favorite business model.
I see handles from Ballast, Firestone, Stone, Coronado, Anchor in the pics
I was there last night. It is very similar to the LumberYard in Encinitas and on par with The Compass but with TV's. They will take some business from Cantina Mas Fina, G-Spot and The Compass. They aren't child friendly so the crowds at Pizza Port will probably stay put.
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