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38 Degrees Carlsbad is now 83 Degrees

Discussion in 'US - Pacific' started by sandiego67, Mar 3, 2013.

  1. http://i.imgur.com/lBRK7WH.jpg[img]

    They are opening Wednesday.
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  2. RedBeeron

    RedBeeron Savant (250) California Jul 7, 2012

    We sure they didn't accidentally use a dyslexic contractor?
  3. the photo's just upside down
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  4. RedBeeron

    RedBeeron Savant (250) California Jul 7, 2012

    Is 83 degrees the temperature at which craft beer burns?
    stawn, domtronzero and sirtomtom like this.
  5. I'm gonna be in Carlsbad next month for a few days.

    Someone sell me on why I should stop at this place? I've never heard of it.
  6. You probably shouldn't. Just go to Pizza Port instead.

    "83 degrees" attempted to knock off the name of Los Angeles' 38 Degrees and just put a Carlsbad at the end of it. Fuck them.
  7. Why don't you walk in the doors and try the place next week before you shit all over it? At this point, the owner has made the right choice and changed the name.

    If the place is crappy after it opens, then you can go ahead and bitch.
  8. vacax

    vacax Advocate (620) California Jun 3, 2008

    Props to the owner for changing the name but that name is stupid.
    ILikeGoodCider and nanobrew like this.
  9. You tree huggers should be happy that he decided to recycle the signage instead of dumping a big orange "8" and a big orange "3" in the local landfill.
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  10. If he figures out a meaning for the 83 degrees, I'll definitely go. :)
  11. Hopefully this place is closed within a few months.
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  12. teamizm

    teamizm Savant (385) California Feb 4, 2005

    This is just a bunch of companies that use "83 Degrees" in their company name; it does little to shed any light on "reference". I can name a beer bar Syphillis and you can possibly find other business' that have the word "Syphillis" in their name, but it provides no reference why I named my beer bar Syphillis.
  13. Because it took this long and the 11th hour legal threat to change it shows more about the man's character and business practice that you can tell if it's a duck if it walks and talks like one?
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  14. jtmartino

    jtmartino Savant (470) California Dec 11, 2010

    It's across the street from Pizza Port. Definitely couldn't hurt to take a look in there.
  15. It took less than 30 days to change out his business name, logo. marketing, signage. Sounds like he really dragged his feet.

    The story came to light in mid-February.

    http://thefullpint.com/beer-news/38-degrees-blindsided-by-carlsbad-restaurant-owner/
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  16. jmgrub

    jmgrub Savant (435) California Nov 20, 2010

    Friday was my first time at PP Carlsbad. I had heard this story a few weeks ago but had no idea that the establishment at issue was in such close proximity to PP. I saw the [new 83] sign, it clicked in my head, and I lolled.
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  17. heatwaves

    heatwaves Savant (285) California Oct 17, 2009

    Couldn't the owner of the Carlsbad location simply change the name to "38 degrees Kelvin"?

    Or "38 degrees of Kevin Bacon"?
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  18. Now why would you wish that on somebody trying to open a business??
  19. mrkrispy

    mrkrispy Savant (410) California Apr 5, 2006

    Because the owner tried to snipe an existing (and popular) beer bar's name up north, fully knowing the original owner was dumb enough not to trademark the name. Smart business? maybe. Total slimy asshole move? Completely.

    I am all for slimy asshole owners not having a successful craft beer business.
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  20. He changed the name. Sure he changed it to a dumb name but signs are very expensive. He could have easily kept the 38 degrees name if he really wanted to.
    Side note- There are thousands of smiley assholes that have a successful craft beer business lol.
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  21. I can't wait for his next restaurant to open up - Slater's 51/49...
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  22. heatwaves

    heatwaves Savant (285) California Oct 17, 2009

    Slater's 51/49 is nowhere near as tasty as Out N' In Burger.
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  23. The most prevalent mention of 83 degrees is a promotional magazine for Tampa, Florida (I am guessing that number refers to their average high temperature or something like that). Maybe he has plans on bringing some Cigar City beers to San Diego!

    [snicker]
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  24. nanobrew

    nanobrew Initiate (0) California Dec 31, 2008

    it is the temp at which beer exits your body
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  25. Serious hypothermia!
  26. riko

    riko Savant (280) California Jan 18, 2008

    If only he'd spelled out "thirty eight degrees." Then he could've renamed it "Greedy Heights" or something.
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  27. I saw this when I was at PP on Friday. Funny.
  28. 395er

    395er Aficionado (180) California Apr 29, 2011

    I live right up the street from this place (and obviously Pizza Port). I'm bummed about how this whole thing went down. We can really use additional interesting options in the neighborhood, and this guy has blown it. I'd be more encouraged if his previous restaurant in this space hadn't been a failure, and if he'd handled this naming issue more professionally. I'll be curious to see what tap handles he's able to get.
  29. It is the same owner as the wine bar, Paon. He has one decent restaurant (Paon) and one failure (The Catch) on his resume. Since he deals in high-end wines, I hope that he figures out the local beer scene.
  30. 395er

    395er Aficionado (180) California Apr 29, 2011

    ^ Yeah, I know. Paon is actually doing well, and though I've only eaten in the lounge, it's well executed. Catch was such an aesthetic nightmare, I'm wondering if they had a consultant for Paon and then tried to go solo. I'm a bit ambivalent about 83 degrees now. I want to support a local biz, but he's making it hard. I wish Compass had a bit better food menu, because their tap list is usually strong and I like the vibe.
  31. CraftyRalphie

    CraftyRalphie Initiate (15) Mar 7, 2013

    These people first named their first restaurant in Carlsbad (now Paon) Per Se, until they got a similar love letter from Thomas Keller in New York about using the name of his world famous restaurant.

    Next, they take the name "Catch" from a seafood restaurant in Santa Monica and place it on their now defunct seafood restaurant in Carlsbad.

    You can bet their hopeful use of the name 38 Degrees was of like ingenuity.
  32. CraftyRalphie

    CraftyRalphie Initiate (15) Mar 7, 2013

    When they opened Paon, they took the chef and the EXACT same menu from another restaurant in San Diego, where one of the Paon partners worked for a long time.
  33. 395er

    395er Aficionado (180) California Apr 29, 2011

    Damn. Boosting more ideas. Well, 83 degrees has an open banner up, and while driving past I saw what looked like a lot of tap handles through a garage style door open to the street. I'll take a look.
  34. That restaurant would be the WineSellar & Brasserie. I guess this is Mayur Pavagadhi's favorite business model.
  35. 395er

    395er Aficionado (180) California Apr 29, 2011

  36. I was there last night. It is very similar to the LumberYard in Encinitas and on par with The Compass but with TV's. They will take some business from Cantina Mas Fina, G-Spot and The Compass. They aren't child friendly so the crowds at Pizza Port will probably stay put.

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