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40ozs. Why are America's craft breweries not making them?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Googs, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. Googs

    Googs Savant (415) New York Apr 19, 2012 Beer Trader

    I don't know about you all, but I first started drinking beer in 40oz form when I was a kid. And I still do drink 40s occasionally. But I'm always wishing that it was full of a bomb ass pale ale, lager or IPA, really any style that isn't too intense. But hell, why not a Barleywine or Imperial Stout too..Schlitz, Steel Reserve, Olde English 800 HG, Hurricane etc. are all 8%-9%. I want a 40 of Olde Rasputin:mad: .

    Anyone else feel me? I'm sure there are reasons breweries don't want to start bottling beer that way. but damn well makes sense to me. I hope someone else shares my opinion and gives it a shot.
  2. Dude really?just buy a 4 pack and drink them all
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  3. My guess would be that North Coast Brewing does not want there customers to start shooting each other.
  4. dap325

    dap325 Aficionado (200) New York Apr 2, 2009

  5. JohnQVD

    JohnQVD Savant (385) New York Jan 23, 2011

    They're illegal in at least one state (Florida), for one. They're associated with crappy, high alcohol malt liquor, for another. Also, they can be seen to encourage overconsumption.

    Anyway, if you want that much, buy by the case. Or buy growlers.
  6. beerme411

    beerme411 Savant (370) California Sep 28, 2010

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  7. Googs

    Googs Savant (415) New York Apr 19, 2012 Beer Trader

    You have a good point man, it may sound a bit ridiculous and a lot of people wouldn't agree, but at the same time drinking a 40 is different and a classic experience for me. Something about the size and shape of the bottle in your hand, it's perfect and I've always liked it. People who fuck with 40s would understand. But then of course, many people prefer to pour into glasses anyway, and there's the last bit of the 40, usually flat and full of backwash.
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  8. EyePeeAyBryan

    EyePeeAyBryan Advocate (725) Arizona Dec 20, 2011 Beer Trader

    Buy multiple bottles. Case closed.
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  9. Googs

    Googs Savant (415) New York Apr 19, 2012 Beer Trader

    I'll keep on dreaming
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  10. rholmes

    rholmes Aficionado (115) Florida Sep 11, 2012

    This. I live in Florida, and a lot of people that have lived here all of their life have no clue what a 40 is. Maybe it's an issue of what the price point would be as well? If you figure that 22oz bottles can go from the $6 to $12 range (and up in some cases), you would assume the 40oz would sell for a minimum of $10 and up. I have no idea what the actual number of people is that will try something at that size, but I gotta assume most people aren't going to just drop $10 and up to try something for the first time.
  11. I used to love a good colt 45 myself.widemouth fool!but a 40 or old Rasputin?thats crazy kid......a 40 of pliny would be pretty killer though
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  12. kingofhop

    kingofhop Advocate (565) Oklahoma May 9, 2010

    Forties have many redeeming qualities. You only have to open them once, as opposed to multiple times. Therefore reducing the risk of permanent hand nerve damage which may arise from multiple hand twisting/pop-toppings. Plus, one trip to the garbage bin as compared to several, conserves energy.
  13. Googs

    Googs Savant (415) New York Apr 19, 2012 Beer Trader

  14. Googs

    Googs Savant (415) New York Apr 19, 2012 Beer Trader

    ya tell me you don't wanna play edward 40 hands with Pliny
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  15. kingofhop

    kingofhop Advocate (565) Oklahoma May 9, 2010

    I want the Blatz. I mean, I REALLY want it.
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  16. Nope,I'm sayin I would love to.
  17. beerme411

    beerme411 Savant (370) California Sep 28, 2010

    I'm not so concerned with the size, but I would like to see more well done malt liquors.
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  18. kingofhop

    kingofhop Advocate (565) Oklahoma May 9, 2010

    I have no idea what Edward hand games are. I'm from back in the day when "the quarter game" was big. My college age daughter did teach me some new stuff recently, but with the onslaught of senility, I cain't 'member a dam thang she said.:)
  19. einhorn

    einhorn Savant (495) California Nov 3, 2005 Beer Trader

    They probably don't make them because most (or almost all) bottling lines do not accommodate this size. Or one may need parts which may or may not be available for that particular bottling set up.
  20. You tape a 40 to each of your hands and can't remove them until they are both empty.
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  21. copslovebeer

    copslovebeer Savant (290) Minnesota Mar 26, 2012 Beer Trader

    Give it a few months, Lagunitas is fulfilling your request with 36 oz bottles of Sucks. 36 is clse enough to 40. Excited I am. Drunk I will be!
  22. kingofhop

    kingofhop Advocate (565) Oklahoma May 9, 2010

    Sounds kinda fun. Do I get to choose Duct, black electrical, or Scotch invisible? Or is this some freeky type of bondage thang?
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  23. One of my fondest memories of Grandma was of her drinking a 40 of Coors when my older brother graduated High School.
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  24. Googs

    Googs Savant (415) New York Apr 19, 2012 Beer Trader

    Can't wait either, a perfect beer to have in that size bottle
  25. The fun begins when you fall down, break glass, piss yourself and cut balls.
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  26. MasterSki

    MasterSki Site Editor (1,095) Ontario (Canada) Dec 25, 2006 Staff Member Subscriber Beer Trader

    The best I could come up with was DFH Liquor de Malt and People's Pint Tap & Die for Edward 40 hands. Terrible idea, by the way...
  27. kingofhop

    kingofhop Advocate (565) Oklahoma May 9, 2010

    Been there, done that. The "Fun" is not as "fun" as it appears to be. :)
  28. YogiBeer

    YogiBeer Savant (485) Illinois May 10, 2012

    Yes please. Anyone hating, gtfo (in a kind, non-threatening way.)
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  29. The reason why is while a 22oz or 750ml carries an air of sophistication that allows one to charge a premium over a 12oz, a 40 has the exact opposite impression so you would probably have to charge less than you would for a 12oz. That would make it real stupid to buy a separate bottling line to lose money.
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  30. jesskidden

    jesskidden Champion (810) New Jersey Aug 10, 2005 Subscriber

    Langunitas' new bottles will be quarts - 32 US fl. oz. - so, not quite as close to the 40 (figure 2/3 of a 12 oz. bottle away).
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  31. zstef99

    zstef99 Aficionado (215) New York Dec 25, 2008

    It's likely to cost more per ounce and it will force you into drinking three glasses in a sitting. What's the advantage exactly?
  32. I don't have nostalgia with 40s because they well, uh, suck, and if I wanted cheap liquor in high school, cheap vodka or everclear (vomit) was the route to go.

    I can see why some people here have nostalgia associated with 40s and the advantages that format may hold for them, however, as a poor part-time employed student, I don't need another format to jack up the $/oz. Good chance I'll be getting a full time job soon though, so when that happens: bring on the 40s **************!!!!!
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  33. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Advocate (515) Texas Apr 13, 2010

    That's a fantastic story.
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  34. JAramini

    JAramini Savant (340) New York Jun 5, 2005

    Given that many people bemoan high alcohol beers only being available in bombers, I don't know that many "feel you" or agree that "bomb ass" beers need to be distributed in extra large containers.

    You can get beers in 12 oz, 22 oz, 25.4 oz (750mL), 32 oz (half growlers - not sure if they're common everywhere), and 64 oz sizes. If you so badly need a 40 of an imperial stout, save a bottle, grab a funnel, and dump a few in. Then, you may recognize how silly this is.
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  35. Most craft breweries probably aren't equipped to fill a 40oz. bottle with their bottling line.
  36. Jason311

    Jason311 Aficionado (105) Virginia Dec 18, 2012

    Rogue makes high volume jugs. Does that help? :)
  37. See the "fun" is actually for the people around you ;)
  38. Nectar

    Nectar Savant (310) New Jersey Jan 17, 2013

    No, because you said Rogue.
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  39. Reinbeck11

    Reinbeck11 Savant (465) Iowa Aug 15, 2012

    Um no that would take away one of the better points of the game!!! Foo Shoo!!!
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  40. Craft breweries have had to fight tooth and nail to convince people that beer isn't just this tasteless fizzy drink for the sole purpose of getting you "wicked drunk bro".

    It takes the focus from "we care about flavor" to "GIT DRUNK BRA!"

    Will it always necessarily be the case? Of course not. There's plenty of us who just want a nice session beer. But people will take it the wrong way, and tarnish a lot of what these folks have been fighting against.

    Give it a few more years. Canned craft beer is still settling in, after all.