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Abyss 2012

Discussion in 'US - Northwest' started by kscaldef, Nov 15, 2012.

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  1. kscaldef

    kscaldef Advocate (725) Oregon Jun 11, 2010

    Just got back from the Portland pub. The profiterole & pork belly is pretty good, and the "dessert" pretzel is insane. Definitely recommend both.

    As usual, the vertical was great to try, although I was disappointed there was no nitro version this time. 2008 seems like it might be going a little downhill - no head on the pour and the body was noticeably thinner than the others. 2009 and 2010 were drinking great, nice and creamy and chocolatey. 2011 remains the weakest link. 2012 was quite fresh and tasty, and still had some noticeable hop presence, which I can't recall from any previous release.
     
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  2. bifrost17

    bifrost17 Initiate (0) Washington Dec 16, 2011

    How much per bottle?
     
  3. kscaldef

    kscaldef Advocate (725) Oregon Jun 11, 2010

    $14 at the pub
     
  4. bifrost17

    bifrost17 Initiate (0) Washington Dec 16, 2011

    Nice, can't wait for it to make its way north to Seattle.
     
  5. sukwonee

    sukwonee Advocate (540) Washington Dec 13, 2011

    Do you know if it this vertical tasting is just available today?
     
  6. Sarlacc83

    Sarlacc83 Advocate (620) Oregon Mar 2, 2008

    Yay, the Abyss price has gone up again! You can now get 2 bottles for what 3 bottles of 2007 used to cost. (Or 5 bottles of the 2006.)
     
  7. kscaldef

    kscaldef Advocate (725) Oregon Jun 11, 2010

    And this is unlike the price of all other beer (and most other goods) how, exactly?
     
  8. digita7693

    digita7693 Advocate (600) Germany Jan 19, 2010

    Granted, one would need to adjust for inflation, but even with that in mind it is about a 20% price increase from 2007 to 2012... and you know what? They will sell out, sounds like a pretty solid business plan. Btw, weren't you in line paying $14/btl (12.50 w/case discount) at the HotD release?;)


    nb - I didn't even enter in factors such as cost of labor (minimum wage has increased 12% during that same time period), cost of materials etc...
     
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  9. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Savant (450) Oregon Aug 17, 2005

    Look at it from a different perspective; you can get two bottles of Abyss for the price of one bottle of Black Tuesday.
     
  10. Sarlacc83

    Sarlacc83 Advocate (620) Oregon Mar 2, 2008

    You guys are brutal. Except Chris. That guy's cool.

    (I just want to complain. I know the price is going to keep going up if they're going to get it. Geesh.)
     
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  11. digita7693

    digita7693 Advocate (600) Germany Jan 19, 2010

    If by brutal you mean disabusing your statement with unbiased empirical data without a modicum of denigration, then yes, I am unequivocally nefarious, and will continue to propagate my machinations!;) beware!!!
     
  12. Sarlacc83

    Sarlacc83 Advocate (620) Oregon Mar 2, 2008

    Well, your empirical data is flawed since it's a 40% increase (14 from 10.), so it was either an oversight, throwing the rest of your conclusions into disarray, or it was an attempt to mislead, further supporting your evidence that you are unequivocally nefarious.
     
  13. Shmeal

    Shmeal Advocate (520) Oregon Nov 9, 2009

    I have a gigantic epenis.
     
  14. digita7693

    digita7693 Advocate (600) Germany Jan 19, 2010

    missed the part where I adjusted for inflation?;)
     
  15. Sarlacc83

    Sarlacc83 Advocate (620) Oregon Mar 2, 2008

    Nope. You guessed; I ignored. ;) So much for unbiased empirical data, though, amirite?
     
  16. SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY, SEATTLE RETAILERS WHO ARE SELLING THE ABYSS.
     
  17. BillHilly

    BillHilly Savant (400) Washington Oct 17, 2010

    Abyss and MoAS in the same week...there goes the budget!
     
  18. kscaldef

    kscaldef Advocate (725) Oregon Jun 11, 2010

    And Block 15 and Hotd...
     
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  19. BillHilly

    BillHilly Savant (400) Washington Oct 17, 2010

    Any married man is probably on the couch this week...serving his sentence!
     
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  20. csano

    csano Initiate (0) Washington Sep 21, 2010

    Just wait until BCBS hits the area...
     
  21. BillHilly

    BillHilly Savant (400) Washington Oct 17, 2010

    And anyone trying to get a Utopias...
     
  22. m4ttj0nes

    m4ttj0nes Aficionado (215) Oregon Feb 21, 2012

    Is this sold out at the pdx brewpub? Any news on when it will see distro?
     
  23. digita7693

    digita7693 Advocate (600) Germany Jan 19, 2010

    Still at PDX pub as of 20mins ago, tons of cases left.
    flight was $20, my favorite was 2009, followed by 2010... 2008 was ok, low carbonation. 2012 is still a bit fresh and astringent a little burnt coffee on the end.

    cheers
     
  24. aaronCS

    aaronCS Aficionado (100) Oregon Feb 20, 2012

    '11 was definitely the low point. Looks like one year later isn't late enough. I had one bottle from last year. I was planning on opening it up, looks like I have to wait another year.

    Someone heard that they were running out of verticals when I was there around 3.
     
  25. digita7693

    digita7693 Advocate (600) Germany Jan 19, 2010

    I am guessing they heard wrong, I didn't arrive until after 3, and at 6 I saw people still getting verticals.
     
  26. aaronCS

    aaronCS Aficionado (100) Oregon Feb 20, 2012

    Yeah I thought it seemed early to blow.
     
  27. csano

    csano Initiate (0) Washington Sep 21, 2010

    I've mentioned this before, but I've been disappointed with the recent Deschutes releases. They've been a shadow of the earlier vintages. I wasn't too impressed with the '11. Hoping the '12 is better, but I'm not holding my breath.
     
  28. csano

    csano Initiate (0) Washington Sep 21, 2010

    Yeah, that'd be me. Thankfully I have a very loving and understanding wife who is supportive of this hobby. For now.
     
  29. BillHilly

    BillHilly Savant (400) Washington Oct 17, 2010

    Ya, next thing you know your belongings are in "your" front yard...with her screaming at you...went through that 20 years ago - say what?
     
  30. csano

    csano Initiate (0) Washington Sep 21, 2010

    And a huge pile of glass, representing what used to be my cellar.
     
  31. Spaceloaf

    Spaceloaf Aficionado (215) Oregon Nov 27, 2008

    I'm drinking the vertical right now and the 2011 is definitely an aberration. The 2012 is more in line with the others. I have to wonder what happened with the 2011 because it tastes like a completely different beer.

    The 2012 shows promise, so don't be discouraged. I could see it becoming very good with some age.
     
  32. csano

    csano Initiate (0) Washington Sep 21, 2010

    Thanks for the update, man. You have restored some hope. Now, to hope that it's as good from the bottle as what you're drinking from the keg...
     
  33. cpinto6

    cpinto6 Savant (365) Georgia Feb 25, 2010

    Hey we all bitched about the infected 09s. Someone's gotta pick up the bill for that flash pasteurizer and it sure as hell won't be them especially when its still getting sold out.
     
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  34. BillHilly

    BillHilly Savant (400) Washington Oct 17, 2010

    If they really want to substantiate their position in the NW with high end brew, they would kill the Stoic project, and actually make the Dissident correctly - they are trying to recover the project with massive fresh beers in this year's batch. The HotD collaboration was a complete failure, but what do I know...all I do is drag my nutz around in pursuit of worthy beers.
     
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  35. cpinto6

    cpinto6 Savant (365) Georgia Feb 25, 2010

    We're also picking up that tab...when you want bold and innovative and they listen, there's bound to be failures. We pay for them and fund new experiments by buying the successful ones.
     
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  36. csano

    csano Initiate (0) Washington Sep 21, 2010

    I wish they'd stop thinking about expanding their reach and focus on the quality of their beers. The same could be said about Cascade as well.
     
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  37. BillHilly

    BillHilly Savant (400) Washington Oct 17, 2010

    vouch!...
     
  38. csano

    csano Initiate (0) Washington Sep 21, 2010

    What? :) Don't agree?

    Edit: Maybe the v in "vouch" was intentional, and you didn't mean to type "ouch"?
     
  39. BillHilly

    BillHilly Savant (400) Washington Oct 17, 2010

    vouch means agree...
     
  40. John_M

    John_M Moderator (1,110) Oregon Oct 25, 2003 Staff Member

    Other than at the brewery pub downtown, has the 2012 showed up anywhere else around town (Portland) yet? I know in the past it's usually taken several days to a week for places like Fred Meyer, MofC and Zupan's to get it in, so I was wondering if they got in their allocation yet. In the past, you could sometimes get the beer a bit cheaper at places like Zupan's and Fred Meyer, hence my curiousity.
     
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