1. The wait is over! Download the BeerAdvocate app on iTunes or Google Play now.
  2. Get 12 issues / year of BeerAdvocate magazine for only $9.99!

Bad trader alert: Dewarner82

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk & Help' started by cfh64, Oct 9, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. cfh64

    cfh64 Advocate (635) Texas Aug 16, 2005

    So it happened once again. I let my guard down and was screwed over. I'll preface this story by saying I should have done more to protect myself (ie ask for trade references, phone number, NOT ship first, etc) but out of close to 100 trades I have only been screwed over one other time and it was one of my first trades. Unfortunately, that one was with a Canadian trader (lots of money invested) and this one involved some badass beers.

    To keep it somewhat short...I set up a trade with dewarner82 about a month ago. I was going out of town so I shipped first so he could steal my beer ASAP. I sent an Upland Raspberry, Blackberry, Cascade Sang Royal, Cascade Sang Noir for a Fantome Extra Sour, Cantillon St Lamvinus and 4 FBS. I also xtra'd him a JK Boxers Revenge and some other sour that slips my mind, possibly La Folie.

    He received my box, told me thanks and that he would send out his box the next day. That was Sept 20th. He last logged on Sept 29th but I haven't heard anything since the 20th. Through a little research I found his phone number (it's actually his parents phone number which matches the address I sent the box to) and have called 4-5 times. The first time I believe his mom picked up and said he wasn't home. I asked her to tell him to call me and he should have my phone number through BA (since I provided it to him through BM). Since then no one has picked up the phone and I have left messages.

    That's it. F'ed again. To be honest, every time I log onto BA now it puts a bad taste in my mouth. I know the majority of people on here are great and generous but this one stings. BTW, I can't remember who keeps the bad trader list so I can provide more details about personal info.
  2. huskermike12

    huskermike12 Savant (435) Iowa Nov 14, 2011

    Sorry man, that sucks.
  3. Oldp0rt does the bad trader's list now. That sucks about your trade. Hopefully this catches his attention and helps get it fixed.
  4. Duuuuuude, that blows! Don't let it discourage you too much, there are still many a good traders! I believe Oldport keeps the list. Sorry man!
  5. cfh64

    cfh64 Advocate (635) Texas Aug 16, 2005

    That would be nice but he hardly posted anything anyways and he sure as hell didn't have any reputation on here that he cares about protecting which should have all been warning signs in the first place. I'm sure he's probably already lurking around here using another name.
  6. miketd

    miketd Savant (485) Ohio Mar 2, 2006

    What were you supposed to get back in return? If you want a few Ohio beers to ease the pain, hit me up.
    Boz12, smutty33, tronto and 4 others like this.
  7. Treebs

    Treebs Initiate (0) Illinois Apr 18, 2011

    Hey,

    I know we've traded in the past and you were awesome. You taught me what extras really should be like. Send me your address again and I'll send out a box with some Chicago/Midwest stuff.
    Boz12, queens1130, codasnap52 and 4 others like this.
  8. cfh64

    cfh64 Advocate (635) Texas Aug 16, 2005

    I really appreciate the offer but no thanks. It's partly my fault for not taking certain precautions and although I do appreciate your generosity, it's on him not anyone else. Thanks again though.
  9. miketd

    miketd Savant (485) Ohio Mar 2, 2006

    I like sending beer to good folks that get screwed, or people that are just flat out awesome. It's an open offer, but I understand where you are coming from.
    Boz12, tronto, ObiWanKushnobi and 3 others like this.
  10. cfh64

    cfh64 Advocate (635) Texas Aug 16, 2005

    Same as above for you treebs. I appreciate it but no one should have to compensate for this chump. On the other hand, maybe we can set up another trade in the future :)
    Boz12 and gpawned like this.
  11. cavedave

    cavedave Champion (930) New York Mar 12, 2009

    To anyone reading this the important warning signs to be aware of, and protective procedures to follow, are all pointed out by cfh64. As well as the possible outcome of not.
    gpawned likes this.
  12. Hanzo

    Hanzo Champion (955) Virginia Feb 27, 2012

    That fucking sucks. I don't understand how someone can dick someone over like that. I hope his mom you spoke with is proud.
    Boz12, sleuthdog, smutty33 and 4 others like this.
  13. Another victim of an underage trader?
    afrokaze likes this.
  14. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Indiana Jan 18, 2010

    I'm just glad you posted what the bottles were so that we didn't have people tripping all over each other asking what the trade was.
  15. cfh64

    cfh64 Advocate (635) Texas Aug 16, 2005

    Lol, I knew everyone would be curious. I don't mind sharing.
    Gosox8787 likes this.
  16. miketd

    miketd Savant (485) Ohio Mar 2, 2006

    Haha, I blew right by what he was getting and asked again in my post. Whoops, reading is hard.
  17. InebriatedJoker

    InebriatedJoker Champion (800) Ohio Sep 16, 2010

    That sucks ass man , Sorry to hear you got burned -
    I hope Karma bites him in the nads.
  18. MordorMongo

    MordorMongo Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2009

    What a fucking DICK MOVE. Seriously. The OP and I have convo'd on many occasions and he is pretty bad-ass, so that makes this one even more difficult to swallow. What a fucking pansy dickbag thief. I hope karma pays him back in spades. Like with herpes, genital warts AND AIDS.
  19. slentz

    slentz Savant (310) Pennsylvania Mar 20, 2010

    Brad, really sorry to hear this hopefully he will come through, that was a hell of a box you sent. You're a standup BA I'm sure karma will come back around soon!
    Boz12 and cfh64 like this.
  20. MordorMongo

    MordorMongo Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2009

    Dude still lives with his parents to boot.....karma is going to have a field day with this lump of excrement.
  21. nanobrew

    nanobrew Initiate (0) California Dec 31, 2008

    Sounds like dewarner82 moved to BA once eBay took down all of the grey goose.
  22. slentz

    slentz Savant (310) Pennsylvania Mar 20, 2010

    Tell his Mom he is out drinking beer that right there should be enough enjoyment lol
  23. LambicKing

    LambicKing Advocate (650) Florida Apr 13, 2011

    Maybe you can call his mom back to have her make good on the beers (like dcloeren did for his delinquent brother, IIRC). Just use a buddy's phone.
  24. InebriatedJoker

    InebriatedJoker Champion (800) Ohio Sep 16, 2010

    Says on his profile he's a teacher and a beer geek ,

    He even had the balls to put the beers you traded him on his gots .
  25. ewright

    ewright Savant (440) North Carolina Oct 25, 2007

    Isn't that a DOUBLE DICK MOVE (sorry MordorMongo)?
  26. MordorMongo

    MordorMongo Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2009

    I will allow it.
    ObiWanKushnobi, gpawned and ASUBeer like this.
  27. cfh64

    cfh64 Advocate (635) Texas Aug 16, 2005

    Wow, I didn't realize that. So now he flaunts them, awesome.
  28. MordorMongo

    MordorMongo Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2009

    Maybe it is elitist of me, and I apologize in advance to any of you I may offend here. But is it common for beer geeks to still live at home and spend extra money on trading beer? Shouldn't priority número uno be getting your own crib? Have times changed that much in the 25 years or so since I first left home? (Also kudos to anyway except cavedave who pick up on that subtle reference)
    suspect, Eriktheipaman, Dat and 8 others like this.
  29. I'm very vindictive, so I would probably call his parents relentlessly until I spoke with one of them.

    Also, stealing sours is the lowest of the low.
  30. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Massachusetts Aug 13, 2007

    Every family member you live with is a mule man. My 3 bedroom apartment sleeps 15, 13 that are of age.
    Boz12 likes this.
  31. MordorMongo

    MordorMongo Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2009

    You have his address, if any BAs have some gay porn laying around I bet he could use some. Just sayin. Could be the new way to deal with such lumps on the nuts of society. ;)
  32. Very sorry to hear this. bm sent
  33. Hanzo

    Hanzo Champion (955) Virginia Feb 27, 2012

    He put the beer you set him in his gots?? Awww helllll nawwww. I'd be calling mumsy from every different phone I could get a hold of. Little Billy needs to be put on restriction.
    chase2634 likes this.
  34. can I borrow some of yours?
    Shagtastic likes this.
  35. I say you post his number on here so we all can give him a quick phone call.
  36. MordorMongo

    MordorMongo Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2009

    Sure man, I always make sure to have some extra lying around!
  37. man, thats the maker of some mad ass karma.
    Boz12 likes this.
  38. stxSS07

    stxSS07 Initiate (0) Illinois Nov 23, 2010

    I live at home/occasionally trade.

    I graduated in May with 20k in student loans and it took until August before I even found a warehouse job paying $10/hr. While the ultimate goal is to get on with IL State Troopers, it's not looking good (for any other departments either) until at least mid-late next year. It's rough out there.

    Also, you old dawg.
    Eriktheipaman likes this.
  39. JeepCop

    JeepCop Aficionado (235) Kansas May 16, 2010

    Exactly. If he's not willing to be a "big boy" make his parents force him to. I'd leave a pretty specific message about how he screwed you over. Mum and dad may have an issue with it, even if he doesn't. If nothing else, they will eventually get tired of the messages...
  40. M1A2

    M1A2 Savant (425) Ohio Jan 15, 2012

    Everytime i read shit like this it makes my blood boil!! How much of a shitbag can one be to have to resort to stealing beer and just being in general a dick about the whole thing!
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page