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Belgian IPAs : What's Your Take?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by ThirstyFace, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Member

    Location:
    New York
    This has never been a real winning style, despite having a few tasty ones. My beef has really been that the style seems to be "imperialized" for no good reason. Lagunitas Wild and Raging Bitch as popular examples.

    Anyway, Stone Cali-Belgique enters last night, and I have to say, it's exactly what I always hoped a Belgian IPA could be. Bright, complex and really just elegant on the nose and tongue.

    I know this beer is well reviewed, but I don't really recall any waves being made over it. Not do I ever recall seeing it in the nightly what are you drinking threads.

    Anyway again, blown away by this delightful brew.

    That's all. As you were.
  2. philbe311

    philbe311 Member

    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    I love Belgian IPAs... I've only got one bit of advice... Embrace the gnome...

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    I would also suggest Green Flash Le Freak and Gouden Carolus Hopsinjoor.
  3. geocool

    geocool Member

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    It seems to me one could make a strong case that (in general) the American made ones are a different style category from the Belgian made ones. The former are basically American IPA's with Belgian yeast, while the latter are more well hopped Belgian ales (with or without American hops). I like the Belgian made ones.
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  4. Thehuntmaster

    Thehuntmaster Member

    Location:
    South Africa
    Gouden Carolus Hopsinjoor and Bitter monk are the only Belgian IPAs I have had and both were delicious!
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  5. Vitacca

    Vitacca Member

    Location:
    Montana
    Argh...this is really annoying me. I'm not a fan of the style but I had a Belgian IPA that floored me last year. Wish I could remember it so I could share it with you. I'm also closing one eye so I can type...that may or may not have something to do with my recollection.
  6. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Member

    Location:
    New York
    Yeah, but both that you mention are 9% or above (and I do like them a bit...though far less than C-B) l. It's not that I can't handle that ABV, but for example, I would not imbibe a 9% on a weekday. In fact, I try to avoid brews at that level on most days, instead holding out for those "beer moments" to drink them (aka, Friday night, kids are in bed, and the moon is lighting up the yard...silence).

    What I loved about Cali-Belgique was just how damn perfect it was without having to go apeshit on ABV.
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  7. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Member

    Location:
    New York
    Agreed. I do prefer the Belgians, but no BIPA, American or Belgian, hit me with magnificence like Stone's.
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  8. TheBrewo

    TheBrewo Member

    Location:
    Michigan
    Sounds like you're starting to develop a taste for the style. It's a great one to get into, and fun to find the best and most surprising out there.
  9. Nanners

    Nanners Member

    Location:
    Ohio
  10. geocool

    geocool Member

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    If you liked that at 6.9% then you should love De Ranke XX Bitter at 6.2%, right?
  11. MikeReserva

    MikeReserva Member

    Location:
    Netherlands
    Viven imperial IPA
    Dochter van de Korenaar Belle-Fleur
    Dochter van de Korenaar Extase (14 hops, very bitter)
    Excalibur IPA
    Struise Svea Ipa

    Quite tasty.
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  12. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Member

    Location:
    New York
    Haven't had it, but I think I saw that on growler fills at Whole Foods yesterday. Is that possible?
  13. geocool

    geocool Member

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    I suppose, I have seen it on draft in the US on occasion. And if it's on tap then it's probably fresh, right? Unfortunately, getting 64 ounces would kinda ruin the point of favoring a lower ABV beer, wouldn't it?
  14. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Member

    Location:
    New York
    Yes, it would. I'm not a big growler sort. I reserve growler fills for beers that I have no access to otherwise, but also otherwise cannot resist.
  15. afi4lifer

    afi4lifer Member

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    I believe Piraat Ale is considered a Belgian IPA and its one of my favorite beers.
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  16. blivingston1985

    blivingston1985 Member

    Location:
    North Carolina
    Came to say the same
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  17. Yosefus

    Yosefus Member

    Location:
    North Carolina
    I'm actually a big fan of Coronado's Hoppy Daze IPA. Reminds me of their Islander IPA, but with the deliciousness of a Belgian strain thrown in. On a similar note, when did Coronado get so dang expensive!?!? A sixer of Islander is $17 in NC, whereas the same sixer was $11 last spring.
  18. jivex5k

    jivex5k Member

    Location:
    Florida
    I just can't get into them.
    I'd rather have a fresh two hearted or jai alai.
  19. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Member

    Location:
    Minnesota
    Some are good, but like many American interpretations of Belgians, too many of the American examples are just fruity booze bombs with some hops on top.
  20. Danny1217

    Danny1217 Member

    Location:
    Florida
    Not something I've really been able to get into. I have enjoyed a couple throughout the past couple years, but I definitely never find myself wanting to purchase any.
  21. hnandez

    hnandez Member

    Location:
    California
    I've recently started hitting up a lot of Belgians. I love the flavor of the Belgian yeast.

    So far the closest I've had to a Belgian IPA is Sumpin Sumpin Wild and I loved it. I remember trying Cali Belgique years ago and not liking it, maybe I will revisit it, we all know that our palates tend to change with time.
  22. frankb34

    frankb34 Member

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Don't know if this qualifies, but I find the SN Beer Camp Belgian black IPA to be delicious. I hope they decide to add it to their line up.
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  23. millionsuns

    millionsuns Member

    Location:
    Maine
    Or you could kick it up (or down) a notch and go for De Ranke XXX Bitter at 6.0%. It's scrumptious.
  24. Ri0

    Ri0 Member

    Location:
    Wisconsin
    Ale Asylum Bedlam. An awesome take on Belgian IPA. Citra hops and Belgian yeast are so delicious together.
  25. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Member

    Location:
    Kansas
    I wouldn't say the style is "imperialized" for no good reason. It's kind of a hybrid between American IPAs and Belgian Tripels, and the latter of those two tends to be in the range of 8% and up when it comes to ABV.

    As far as Cali-Belgique goes, it's been many months since I last had it, but while it smelled like a Belgian ale from the distinctive yeast, the taste was mostly just a standard west coast IPA. If I'm drinking a Belgian IPA, I want something that tastes kind of like a hoppy tripel. Le Freak, Raging Bitch, Little Sumpin' Wild and Houblon Chouffe Dobbelen IPA Tripel all seem to fit that bill.

    For suggestions of other Belgian IPAs that the OP might find more to his (her?) liking based on enjoying Cali-Belgique, I would recommend Chainbreaker by Deschutes and Belgo by New Belgium (if this one is still around--I'd heard that they weren't producing it any longer).
  26. geocool

    geocool Member

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Since the former has 611 reviews while the latter has only 5, I was assuming that one is not particularly easy to come by?
  27. mdonkey

    mdonkey Member

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    All of this is spot on.
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  28. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Member

    Location:
    New York

    Those are not in NY. I think I might just stick with Cali-Belgique, since it really does what others do not for me.
  29. millionsuns

    millionsuns Member

    Location:
    Maine
    It was brewed for The Festival this year w/a limited bottle run afterward. So maybe not the best rec for the OP here, but changed my view of what BIPAs could be. A lower ABV offering packed with flavor - the potential is there.
  30. BB1313

    BB1313 Member

    Location:
    Ohio
    I absolutely love Belgian IPAs, although they can be hit or miss.. I like the ones with hop flavor and not just hop bitterness..

    My faves are Sumpin' Wild, Raging Bitch, and Columbus Big Frank
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  31. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Member

    Location:
    North Carolina
    I love Cali-Belgique, Le Freak and Sumpin Wild but I've had Piraat and Houblon Chouffe multiple times and they always taste skunked and void of hop flavor. I think that every bottle I've had was sitting for too long by the time I got to them. Same thing with the De Ranke XX I had a couple weeks ago although I know it had been sitting for over a year due to the freshness date. Living and learning is expensive.
  32. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Member

    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    I agree with geocool’s first post. Below is something I posted previously:

    “I am of the opinion that there are two sub-styles of Belgian IPAs.

    “There is an American style Belgian IPA where American hops are used. Examples of this sub-style are Flying Dog Raging Bitch, Lagunitas A Little Sumpin Wild, Stone Cali-Belgique, Green Flash Le Freak, etc.

    The Belgian brewed Belgian IPAs utilize European hops which result in a beer of a different character. Examples of this sub-style are De Ranke XX Bitter, Poperings Hommel Bier, Piraat, etc.

    My personal preference is the American style Belgian IPA with my favorite being Flying Dog Raging Bitch. I also really like the Flying Dog’s new beer: Wildeman Farmhouse IPA.”

    Cheers!
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  33. I realise "IPA" can mean almost anything, but Piraat? Really? Seemed like a Tripel to me. Never in a million years would I have called it an IPA.
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  34. MikeReserva

    MikeReserva Member

    Location:
    Netherlands
    I agree.
  35. Aleforme

    Aleforme Member

    Location:
    Washington
    Not really a fan, but to each his own.

    My biggest beef is with american breweries who just label their brews as an IPA when the brew is clearly a BIPA style. If brewing a Belgian style IPA, please label it as such. I have bought several IPA that turned out to be a BIPA style without knowing. Don't always have time to check reviews first.
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  36. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Member

    Location:
    New York
    Who does that? It's been my experience that the B bit is the sell and differentiator.
  37. jrenihan

    jrenihan Member

    Location:
    Ontario (Canada)
    I am a big fan of Belgian IPAs. Not sure how easy it is to find outside of Canada (probably not very), but Microbrasserie Charlevoix's Dominus Vobiscum Lupulus is my favourite. A really wonderful beer. Aside from that, I am surprised nobody has mentioned Duvel Tripel Hop yet. Great twist on a classic!
  38. RyanCave

    RyanCave Member

    Location:
    Oregon
    I've only had 2 belgian IPA (Raging Bitch and my own homebrewed one) and loved it, its definitely up there for brews I will be seeking out
  39. Aleforme

    Aleforme Member

    Location:
    Washington
    Wingman Ace IPA was one that I had a few months back (maybe 6 months ago?). No mention of a "B" or "Begian" on the can. Maybe they have changed the cans since then but at least the can I got back then and the photo in the link below just shows IPA.

    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/24029/72808

    There are a couple others I have tried but can't think of them off the top of my head.
  40. kjrod20

    kjrod20 Member

    Location:
    New York
    I was going to mention Rayon Vert but I guess that's just more of a Belgian pale. Still awesome though.

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