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Best beer by country

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by draheim, Jul 15, 2013.

  1. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,120) Washington Sep 18, 2010 Beer Trader

    This thread has probably been done before (I can't imagine how it hasn't), but I don't know how to search for it. What's the best beer from whatever country you want to include, and why? You can define "best" however you want: most epitomizes that country's beer tradition, tastes the best, most popular, etc. I'll start.

    Belgium: Rochefort 10. To me, pretty much the perfect quad/BSDA. Honorable mention to Westmalle Tripel.
    Germany: Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier/Ayinger Oktoberfest. Both just classic German beers.
    Canada: Unibroue Fin Du Monde. Because it's the best Canadian beer I've ever had.
    England: Well's & Young's Courage. A classic RIS. Honorable mention to Fuller's 1845.
    United States: Pliny Topper or Heady the Elder. Because it has to be an IPA and I just can't decide.

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  2. Stugotzo

    Stugotzo Advocate (515) Florida Jun 13, 2012

    I'd retitle the thread "Best Country by Beer" ;)
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  3. RWNay

    RWNay Savant (475) Illinois Oct 7, 2010 Subscriber

    Never heard of Pliny Topper or Heady the Elder :D
  4. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,120) Washington Sep 18, 2010 Beer Trader

    I'll give you a hint. It's unanimous that one is better than the other.
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  6. leedorham

    leedorham Champion (855) Washington Apr 27, 2006

    Correction - Japan: Unibroue La Fin Du Monde
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  7. ChanChan

    ChanChan Advocate (620) California Dec 12, 2009 Beer Trader

    Belgium: Drie Fontaine, either the Oude Geuze or Kriek
    Germany: Ayinger Celebrator
    Canada: Brasserie Dieu Du Ciel Peche Mortel
    England: Samuel Smith's Oat Meal Stout
    United States: Yea... Pliny the Elder or something like that!
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  8. israel-jem's 8-8
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  9. LaneMeyer

    LaneMeyer Advocate (550) California Mar 20, 2011

    ISO Heady the Elder and Pliny Topper.
    Also if anyone has any extra Zombie the Younger laying around I'll take it off your hands!
  10. Dirty25

    Dirty25 Savant (390) Germany Jan 22, 2012

    No way Germany's is weihenstephaner. That is a pretty normal wiezen here. It's a toss up between some Pils maker anyway.
    Belgium Rochfort ten maybe, I like it a lot more then Westy 12. I would have said some of their sours though.
    England Sam Smith oatmeal stout...Yep. Pretty much the oatmeal stout I judge all by. Their RIS is amazing as well
    America, Pliny is a great IIPA. When fresh it is amazing, dosent tare your face off and is quite drinkable, I love that beer.
  11. BeerGreg

    BeerGreg Advocate (595) Illinois May 17, 2013 Beer Trader

    Going to Prague and Krakow in a couple months. Would love any beer suggestions for those cities!
  12. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,120) Washington Sep 18, 2010 Beer Trader

    That's 'cuz it is an air filter.
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  13. kristougher

    kristougher Advocate (550) North Carolina Jun 27, 2013 Beer Trader

    i prefer heady the elder
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  14. leedorham

    leedorham Champion (855) Washington Apr 27, 2006

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  15. USA does not have to be an IPA. I vote BCBS and most variants.
    England is correct. Taddy Porter is close though.
    Weihenstephaner is middle of the road at best.
    I like Trois Pistoles over La Fin Du Monde.
    And Rochefort is a good choice.

    Also, a "heady the elder" or "Pliny topper" sounds like the best green/green blend ever!
  16. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,120) Washington Sep 18, 2010 Beer Trader

    Looks like you guys thought I was making some kind of proclamation. I was just kicking off the discussion/stating my opinionand asking others to state theirs. Thanks though.
  17. Givemebeer

    Givemebeer Advocate (545) Vermont Apr 6, 2013

    Different strokes for different folks but I don't understand the lack of love for Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier from some people. The perfect example of the style in my mind.
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  18. CTJman

    CTJman Poobah (1,050) Connecticut Jan 14, 2013 Beer Trader

    wonder how long this thread runs with this "heady the elder" and "pliny topper". I wonder if anyone likes Elder Gandhi Bot Topper
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  19. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poobah (1,420) Wyoming Sep 14, 2002 Beer Trader

    Austria, Samichlaus Classic.
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  20. champ103

    champ103 Poobah (1,040) Texas Sep 3, 2007 Beer Trader

    How many people posting have actually been to any of these respected countries to experience the beer scene? Anybody that says bottles of Sam Smith or Well's & Young probably have not been to England to sample the best cask ales available. You have to experience the beer culture to know what the best is. I would not except someone from Europe criticizing the best and worst US breweries if they have never personally experienced it over here.
  21. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,120) Washington Sep 18, 2010 Beer Trader

    It's usually implied in these kinds of threads that what is meant is the best beer that you have had, but I can't say your point isn't valid. Great avatar BTW.
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  22. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poobah (1,420) Wyoming Sep 14, 2002 Beer Trader

    You're taking this thread too seriously. It's just fun to list some beers...
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  23. Can only comment on beers I've had:

    England: Samuel Smith's _____ stout. You could pick the oatmeal or the RIS. For me the RIS.
    Belgium: Completely agree with Rochefort 10 although not by a lot over St. Bernardus 12.
    Canada: La Fin du Monde by a hair over Trois Pistoles
    USA: Not a big IPA fan, so Parabola
    Germany: Ayinger ur-Weiss, Weiheinstephaner Vitus.
    Netherlands: Heineken fresh, unpasteurized, on tap over there when I was 18 years old in 1984.
  24. champ103

    champ103 Poobah (1,040) Texas Sep 3, 2007 Beer Trader

    True that. Nobody can try everything. I just think it shows a little lack of knowledge on the beer scene in general in England specifically if Sam Smith is the first thing people come up with.

    Some of my favorites while working in the UK was Butcombe Bitter, and Adnams Broadside cask
    Scotland: Anything from Traquir or Orkney's Dark Island cask
    USA: Um, I really can't say. Right now, maybe Live Oak Hefe?
    I really want to travel Germany, cause there are so many great breweries and experiences I want to try. Though nothing we get here I don't think compares. For a number or reasons. Freshness, for one.
  25. Good luck with that, this will be an endless attack/debate.

    I'd just go off the highest rankings per country and keep it objective (somewhat)
  26. kojevergas

    kojevergas Poobah (1,200) Colorado Aug 15, 2010 Beer Trader

    Ireland: Guinness Special Export (John Martin)
    Denmark: Mikkeller Beer Geek Brunch Weasel (Cognac Barrel Aged)
    Sweden: Narke Kaggen! Stormaktsporter
    Kenya: Tusker Lager
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  27. mulder1010

    mulder1010 Advocate (615) Australia Aug 29, 2008

    New Zealand: Liberty C!tra
    Sri Lanka: Lion Stout
    Fiji: Vonu Lager
    Australia: Nordic Saddle Buffer
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  28. jmw

    jmw Savant (450) North Carolina Feb 4, 2009

    Query that particular subforum.
  29. jmw

    jmw Savant (450) North Carolina Feb 4, 2009

    Well then you'd only be taking into account the very limited experiences of folks from the states.
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  30. bozodogbreath

    bozodogbreath Advocate (590) Indiana Oct 19, 2006 Beer Trader

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  31. jmw

    jmw Savant (450) North Carolina Feb 4, 2009

    Not bad. Not bad. If you had to go by the paltry examples that are imported then you could certainly do worse.
  32. Stevedore

    Stevedore Poobah (1,065) Wisconsin Nov 16, 2012 Beer Trader

    Belgium: Cantillon Fou' Foune :p But overall, incorporating tradition and ease of access, etc. I'd probably go with the Cantillon Geuze.
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  33. patto1ro

    patto1ro Advocate (620) Netherlands Apr 26, 2004 Subscriber

    Without the Brettanomyces, it's not the real thing. Very disappointing.
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  34. Geuzedad

    Geuzedad Advocate (595) Arizona Nov 14, 2010 Subscriber Beer Trader

    ROFL Me either.......
  35. Geuzedad

    Geuzedad Advocate (595) Arizona Nov 14, 2010 Subscriber Beer Trader

    USA=Russian River
  36. England: Old Chimneys Good King Henry Reserve
    Germany: Andechser Dunkel Doppelbock (Drink it every day)
    USA: Pliny or KBS
    Belgium: Rochefort Trappistes 10
    Denmark: Mikkeller Beer Geek Brunch Weasel
    Canada: Dieu du Ciel Péché Mortel
    Netherlands: De Molen Hel & Verdoemenis (Wild Turkey)
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  37. UK-the cream of UK brewing is cask conditioned ale.Don't ask me to pick the best, I'm still trying them out :)
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  38. Stahlsturm

    Stahlsturm Savant (440) Germany Mar 21, 2005

    That may be the best German beers you can get your hands on in Washington. By no means these are THE best German beers. Not by a very long shot.
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  39. Stahlsturm

    Stahlsturm Savant (440) Germany Mar 21, 2005

    Indeed. It's "Weizen", not "Wiezen" BTW :)

    Oh Hell NO.
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  40. In the opinion of yourself and perhaps your generation Marquis but you may have noticed that others have begun to enjoy non cask beers in the UK over the past 5 years or so.

    Name a brewery located in a railway arch in London beginning with a 'K' ... anyone ?
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