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Best Beer for the weaning process?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by 806Polarbeer, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. 806Polarbeer

    806Polarbeer Disciple (70) Texas Oct 18, 2012

    So I have seen a bunch of talk about "converting" people to craft beer. I have also come across several situations of some people asking what beer to try if they normally drink adjunct lagers. In the recent past I have tended to suggest DFH Midas Touch. For me it is just one of those beers that I think anybody can like without any degree of pallet development. It is also not too heavy and is pretty well balanced. I tell people to take a four pack home with them and if they don't like the first one, I will buy the other three and give them $10 on top of that, and I haven't had to pay out yet. With that being said I do realize that as far as styles go, Midas touch is in no way the most likely "next step" for someone that is wanting to give craft beer a try. What are your opinions on a good next step, true craft beer?
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  2. 90 Shilling
    Fat Tire
    Brooklyn Lager
  3. allouez86

    allouez86 Savant (405) Wisconsin Jan 24, 2009

    Sierra Nevada Pale Ale
    Summit EPA
    Fat Tire
    Nut Browns are also a good style to start with IMHO
  4. I had newbies like everything from Allagash Wit to Old Rasputin to Cuvee Rene.
    Point is, it 100% depends on the person.
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  5. alucard6679

    alucard6679 Savant (380) Arizona Jul 29, 2012

    Pale ales and hefeweizens seem to do the trick
  6. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,120) Washington Sep 18, 2010 Beer Trader

    I personally think Midas Touch is a pretty awful beer, so I wouldn't start there.

    I also think the whole idea of "converting" people to craft is verkakte, unless someone asks you for suggestions. Live and let live, drink and let drink.

    But if someone asks me to recommend a good all-around beer, I'll probably suggest something like Duvel, Saison Dupont, or La Fin Du Monde.
  7. 806Polarbeer

    806Polarbeer Disciple (70) Texas Oct 18, 2012

    I dont personally push people towards anything, it is when I am asked because people at my store know that I try and drink almost anything, that i will start giving suggestions. I agree with you, if someone likes what they are drinking then I am not to interfere in the least. I have just "seen" the term "convert" on here a couple times in the last month or two.
  8. I know a guy who was a life-long Bud drinker (20+ years) that was hooked on Bigfoot after his first sip! He had a tough time downing his 2 cases of Bud that he brought camping.
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  9. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Advocate (590) Minnesota Oct 4, 2012 Beer Trader

    Brown ales, marzens, and doppelbocks are maltier options for people who do not enjoy hops. Once they're comfortable with the heftier malt bills, something like a hoppier pilsner (prima, SN summerfest) could be a good step before getting into pale ales and the like.
  10. jmgrub

    jmgrub Savant (475) California Nov 20, 2010

    I tend to find that hop bitterness is more offputting to non-craft drinkers than is a heavy malt bill. Roastiness, sweetness etc. are likely flavors most have experienced with other beverages-coffee, tee etc.-and thus might be more palatable for new craft drinkers.
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  11. Tripel Karmeliet is a beer that I still find delicious after all these years, and it doesn't really have any offensive flavors, so I imagine it would appeal to just about anybody.
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  12. repivk

    repivk Aficionado (130) Minnesota Dec 8, 2012 Beer Trader

    I started from Newcastle. But after that it was an avalanche upon having surly furious.
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  13. Jonada

    Jonada Advocate (585) New Jersey May 23, 2012 Beer Trader

    Like others have said, it depends on the person. However, if you think the person would like Midas Touch I would probably recommend DFH Noble Rot instead (especially if the person likes wine). It's somewhat similar to Midas Touch but IMO better and I think would appeal more to someone who hasn't had a lot of experience with craft beer.
  14. Nectar

    Nectar Savant (310) New Jersey Jan 17, 2013

    What does the person like to eat? If they drink wine, what type?

    These threads constantly pop up, but the answer is always the same. Its dependent on THAT persons tastes. Not yours, not mine, not the person next to them trying beer for the first time as well.

    My dads first craft beer was BCBVS after thanksgiving dinner and he loved it. He tried wits, lambics, and pale ales afterwards and didnt like any of them. This would seem ass backwards to most, but I knew he would like it based on HIS tastes.
  15. Number45forever

    Number45forever Savant (400) Vermont Jan 6, 2012 Beer Trader

    I recently gave a BCBS to a BMC newbie...and it blew his mind. In my experience, you go big (like BCBS) or you go small (like, sadly, Blue Moon...or perhaps some WeinhastphanerskjlkhadhHBMS Lager, etc.). BCBS is a fun first sip to watch the BMC man take, I'll say that.
  16. beercanman

    beercanman Savant (485) Ohio Dec 17, 2012

    Mamas little yellow pils
  17. We definitely need more pallet development. I'm tired of seeing the same old pallets on the loading dock.
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  18. jtdolla911

    jtdolla911 Savant (420) Massachusetts Nov 18, 2011 Beer Trader

    I usually start with hefeweizens of whites, then move to belgian ales from dub to trip to quad, then bring it to ipa's and stouts
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  19. Shagator

    Shagator Savant (420) Kentucky Mar 17, 2012

    from personal experience, ST Unearthly got me to move to good beer. That being said I had had several crafts, or imports that just never did it for me. There were several porters that I used to like. Breckenridge was one of my favorites
  20. Fou' Foune they wouldn't believe you it was beer, actually scratch that if you have excess FF to do that send it to me. Some like a gentle intro others like a rude DIPA awakening, offer a variety in a tasting.
  21. eatabagofbooger

    eatabagofbooger Savant (375) Oregon Mar 27, 2009 Beer Trader

    Gotta go with SNPA as my first choice here. Of course, I'm somewhat biassed by the fact that it was my gateway into beer (not just craft beer). If someone is really stoked on adjunct lagers, a good, bright, light, well crafted lager might be appropriate as well (Heater Allen Pils, Ayinger Marzen)
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  22. Moose90

    Moose90 Advocate (740) Washington Nov 25, 2012 Beer Trader

    90 Schilling
    Fat Tire
    Easy Street

    Too many options really, but these are each good places to start...
  23. I never tried to convert people, but I used to keep the Brooklyn mixed case at my house. It had the lager, brown ale, pennant, ipa, and something else. Everybody found something they like.
  24. arfenhouse

    arfenhouse Savant (305) California Oct 29, 2012

    SNPA, Black Butte, and Anchor Steam are all good starting points.
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  26. JimmyW

    JimmyW Savant (310) Illinois Feb 17, 2011

    Some good weeners....
    If they drink this ----->>>> let them try this

    Stella ----->>>> Three Floyds Jinx Proof or Metropolitan Krankshaft

    Guinness ----->>>> Left Hand Milk Stout Nitro

    Blue Moon ----->>>> Allagash White, Ommegang Witte or Bell's Oberon.

    BMC ----->>>> Krombacher Pils, Capital Supper Club or Boulevard Reverb

    red wine ----->>>> Bockor Cuvee des Jacobins Rouge, Kasteel Rouge or a Timmermans Lambic

    white wine ----->>>> Tripel Karmeliet, Saison DuPont or even Victory Summer Love.

    Other good ones for weening....
    Xingu Black Beer (shin-goo)
    Two Bros. Long Haul Session Ale
    New Glarus Spotted Cow
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  27. cavedave

    cavedave Poobah (1,070) New York Mar 12, 2009 Beer Trader

    Brewdog Paradox Smokehead Islay Edition. Noobs love it.
  28. MisterBisco

    MisterBisco Advocate (660) New York Feb 18, 2009 Beer Trader

    Am I the only person who thought this would be a thread about the best beer to drink while dealing with a wife who's breaking down emotionally every night because she doesn't feel that her child loves her the same way anymore?
    806Polarbeer likes this.
  29. DaKur

    DaKur Savant (400) Rhode Island Nov 15, 2012

    Flying Dog Old Scratch Amber Lager
  30. Thirstygoat

    Thirstygoat Advocate (720) Illinois Nov 22, 2012 Beer Trader

    It seems stouts and porters go well , at least over the winter holidays. TenFidy, Old Raspy, Edmund Fitz, Anchor Porter, SN Porter, SN Stout. But not to barrel age 14% stuff at the beginning.
  31. BruChef

    BruChef Savant (315) New York Nov 8, 2009