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Black Note vs. KBS vs. Goose Island Bourbon County Stout

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  1. VeganUndead

    VeganUndead Advocate (675) Virginia Apr 25, 2012

    Redd's Apple? No one...?
     
  2. j47paco

    j47paco Savant (370) California Dec 19, 2010

    Agreed. New Zealand's greatest export.

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  3. jplopez21

    jplopez21 Advocate (590) Illinois Nov 14, 2012

    Black Note (by a hair)>BCBS>KBS

    general consensus is this years KBS isnt as boozy as it used to be. Honestly didnt get any "hot" booze from KBS at all. Regardless, awesome beer. But the complexity and smoothness of black note is just amazing.
     
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  4. Phacoman

    Phacoman Savant (265) Pennsylvania Jun 26, 2011

    I know...I just thought it was a funny way to phrase that.

    Cheers.
     
  5. riemster

    riemster Advocate (595) Ohio Mar 17, 2011

    Hoppin Frog Barrel Aged BORIS!

    I just changed my profile picture late last night. I am in no way biased towards hoppin frog... lol.
     
  6. The BBBW from Central Waters is fantastic.
     
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  7. Thecherryman

    Thecherryman Initiate (0) Arizona Dec 8, 2010

    Bcs -> black note -> KbS
     
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  8. stayclean

    stayclean Savant (360) Wisconsin Mar 17, 2012

    I haven't had Black Note since last Feb, but I like these beers greatly. :cool:
     
  9. Benish

    Benish Advocate (520) Wisconsin Mar 13, 2013

    Black Notes > BCBS > KBS

    However I just had a Peruvian Morning this afternoon. Good stuff!
     
  10. The journey is what matters the most
     
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  11. bobhits

    bobhits Savant (465) Kentucky Oct 31, 2006

    I need a bottle of black note to compare since I don't think any bourbon barrel beer should be had on draft for this kinda comparison. But I can't imagine any beer ever touches a well aged Bourbon County Stout, it is just liquid heaven with a few years on it. Black Note I've had twice on draft and it was honestly just amazing in its own right. KBS is great, but it isn't in the same class as the other two imo.
     
  12. Are you comparing aged BCBS to fresh KBS? IMO BCBS ages much better, but KBS is better fresh. Two different takes on the style that are both done well.
     
  13. bobhits

    bobhits Savant (465) Kentucky Oct 31, 2006

    Yes I am comparing the two beers at imo their best levels. KBS is ideal around 6-9 months old. BCS 2-3 years depending on how hot it was fresh. I'd still take BCS fresh over KBS in a heart beat though I'm not sure how Black Note would compare fresh against Bourbon County...it also depends on the batch of BCS or KBS and I'm sure Black Note as well, since these are bourbon barrel aged there is a good bit of variance year to year and I'm sure even bottle to bottle as some barrels can just impart more alcohol.

    Or to sum this all up. No beer can compare to BCS aged. Nothing I've had is even worthy of being compared. It is truly the best beer I've ever had and nothing is close.
     
  14. That is your opinion and that is fine, I think fresh KBS is better than fresh BCBS though aged it is the opposite. Oh well I love both and have a few of each, maybe I will actually be able to age more than normal this year though I doubt it. As for best beer ever I will take Fou' Foune but that is a different thread.
     
  15. AgentMunky

    AgentMunky Savant (450) California Dec 29, 2009

    KBS > Black Note > BCBS

    ...but I've never tried it blind. And the chances of me ever having the three together are diminishingly slim.
     
  16. DovaliHops

    DovaliHops Savant (480) California Nov 16, 2009

    Awesome avatar. :cool:
     
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  17. plumcrazyfx

    plumcrazyfx Savant (450) Minnesota Aug 26, 2010

    This really comes down to whether you like bourbon forward beers, or not. Most are either picking KBS>BN>BCBS or BCBS>BN>KBS. Only a few have BN first - I dont think it's a coincidence. If you like bourbon you pick BCBS first, if not, KBS first. Four years ago I would have gone KBS first - Now BCBS is my favorite by far.
     
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  18. KBS>BCBS>BN
    The first two are almost interchangeable depending on whether I have a taste for coffee or not. The Black Note is maybe a half step behind..it's super smooth, but for me just a tad lacking in the flavor profile compared to the other two.
     
  19. Just had bcbs and kbs for the first time in the last couple of weeks. for me its not even close between the two, bcbs is just bursting with flavor. cant imagine that there is a better beer out there. kbs was very good as well, just not in the same league. unfortunately never had black note.
     
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  20. Try yourself a pink lady or a picific rose and make sure it's rock hard...then sir, you will be changed
     
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  21. nc41

    nc41 Advocate (745) North Carolina Sep 25, 2008

    Each are so different and pronounced I doubt that blind makes any difference. All are great in their own right and I love all 3 in their own way and could never pick a favorite they're all that good IMO. If you like coffee you like KBS, you like chocolate viscous big bodied stouts you like BCBS, Black Note is lighter than BCBS less viscous more carbonation, but I loved the only bottle I could buy here..
     
  22. taxman

    taxman Savant (265) Illinois Feb 22, 2012

    They're each a little different and outstanding in their own way. Depending on what I want at any given time, I would take any of these.
     
  23. manutdfan

    manutdfan Initiate (0) Florida May 25, 2012

    KBS, BCBS, Black Note a distant third for me
     
  24. Cyclone8

    Cyclone8 Savant (475) Minnesota Oct 19, 2011

    The reason that the KBS was "the most coffee forward" is because it's a coffee stout, and the other two aren't.
    A better point of comparison would be other BA coffee stouts, like BCBCS or Central Waters' Peruvian Morning.
     
  25. Roudy1

    Roudy1 Savant (270) Iowa Sep 29, 2012

    I have a hard time picking between BCBS and Black Note. One side of me loves the in your face booziness of BCBS and one side of me loves how well everything melds together in Black Note. And KBS is completely different, I don't think I'd try to rank it against those two.
     
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  26. I've had (and still have a bunch of) all three. They're all so different. For me, it's BCBS>BN>KBS.

    BCBS is just so flavorful and powerful, with a massive bourbon hit up front. I love it. And once you get past the bourbon, it's almost like a port.

    BN is the smoothest of the three, and the bourbon is more balanced compared to the BCBS.

    KBS (2013 from the bottle) is excellent, too, but nothing stands out as memorable. (On draft, 2013 KBS I had was a different beer -- thin, all coffee, and weak. Drain pour material.)

    2012 KBS, right now, is drinking very nicely. It's mellowed a little, the chocolate has taken precedence over the bourbon, and the coffee has mostly disappeared.

    I'd say it's BCBS>BN>2012 KBS>2013 KBS.

    But I'd happily take any of these over most any other beer :)

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  27. Neorebel

    Neorebel Savant (375) New Jersey Jun 29, 2005

    I plan on doing this very same tasting soon!
     
  28. Ri0

    Ri0 Champion (965) Wisconsin Jul 1, 2012

    Now that I have had all 3.
    KBS > BCBS = Black Note
     
  29. TychoNDC

    TychoNDC Savant (370) New York Jan 7, 2013

    It's true. Pink Ladys have just the right combination of tart and sweet, with an excellent crisp bite to them. Galas and Fujis are alright, but can be sweet and overbearing. They're best left to mellow a bit. Whatever. This year's crop just wasn't as good as last year's...
     
  30. What a great debate! I've had bcbs and bn...have a bottle of 1year old kbs that I'm afraid to drink! So far I would go with bcbs over bn slightly. Another great ba stout out there is event horizon by old hickory. They add some honey which is great and at 8.5% easy to drink.
     
  31. kylelenk

    kylelenk Savant (395) Michigan Apr 17, 2012

    Black Note is an otherworldly beer. It's hard for me to say that because I feel most of Bell's offerings are average and I absolutely love KBS. I had a few fresh BCBS and had a bottle this weekend with about 7 mos. on it. To me, Bourbon County lacks that niche character that Black Note and KBS have (Black Note with the slight lactose and KBS with the coffee/chocolate). I also find BCBS to be very thin compare to other big stouts.

    They are all class beers in the end.
     
  32. stayclean

    stayclean Savant (360) Wisconsin Mar 17, 2012

    BCBS.... thin?? :confused:
     
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  33. kylelenk

    kylelenk Savant (395) Michigan Apr 17, 2012

    Yeah, it's hard for me to explain. The flavor profile isn't thin but the liquid itself doesn't seem quite as viscous as other big stouts. I'm not sure if it's my imagination as Black Note/KBS/CBS/Pt5 are quite sweeter....maybe?
     
  34. kodt

    kodt Advocate (535) Illinois Mar 6, 2013

    I think the takeaway is that any of the 3 are great beers and really you could be happy with any one of them.

    Throw in BBA Pt5 and Arcadia BBA Stout as well. All great beers.
     
  35. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Champion (840) Michigan May 8, 2006

    I think you are going to be in the minority here. I would speculate that most will fit BCS both sweeter and more viscous than the others you list.
     
  36. stayclean

    stayclean Savant (360) Wisconsin Mar 17, 2012

    I never had CBS so I can't speak for that one, but I find BCBS to be sweet as hell and incredibly viscous. Opinions, what's the deal with them? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I was really surprised at how easy to drink fresh BB Plead the 5th was though, considering it's ABV and all (I know the label says 11%, but isn't it 14%? I gather that they enjoy some "herbal treats", but...). Really glad a generous BA was kind enough to hook me up with a 4-pack, hope I can get another one this winter, that beer sure is something special.
     
  37. abkayak

    abkayak Savant (390) New York Jan 8, 2013

    I just did 20 miles on a kite buggy and a land board perfect winds...drank my first ever KBS, BCBS tonight.. Don't care what's better ...today life is good, my turn.
     
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  38. dagmer

    dagmer Aficionado (115) Illinois Feb 27, 2012

    Haven't had Black Note yet, but had KBS 2013 for the second time last night and I know it's blasphemy but i didn't like it:(
     
  39. Kwaz

    Kwaz Aficionado (145) Illinois Mar 31, 2012

    Black Note finishes with an unpleasant bitterness for me that drops it well out of the class of BCBS and KBS. Like so far out of the class that it would grow old and grey at the back of my fridge if I had an ample supply of all three in there.

    However, I haven't had the most recent batch.
     
  40. Personally BCBS was by far the most viscous when compared to KBS - I think the extra 4% ABV is a testament to that.
     
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