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Cantillon?

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk & Help' started by BigGene, May 10, 2012.

  1. BigGene

    BigGene Initiate (0) Florida Oct 30, 2010

    So what is this Cantillon everyone is clamoring for in FT-ISO forum? I went to thier website and took a look around (site needs work). Obviously I know what they make and how long they have been making it. What I would like to know is
    -What is the US distribution
    -Are they really that good

    /Discuss
  2. DSlim71

    DSlim71 Savant (495) New Jersey Mar 3, 2010

    -very limited, stores that get a case or 2 usually sell out immediately
    -yes
  3. FosterJM

    FosterJM Champion (825) California Nov 16, 2009

    Heres your answer

    -Limited
    -Yes

    Cheers!
  4. DSlim71

    DSlim71 Savant (495) New Jersey Mar 3, 2010

    What's the saying about great minds?
  5. BigGene

    BigGene Initiate (0) Florida Oct 30, 2010

    Let me rephrase--
    What states is Cantillon available? It is not on seekabrew
  6. Very limited. The city where I went to school got only 12 bottles, split between two stores in March. I was lucky enough to get 3 of them. Rarely do you see it sit on the shelves. Most Cantillon's are very good, and they are usually reasonably priced.
  7. FosterJM

    FosterJM Champion (825) California Nov 16, 2009

    Wont be on Seekabrew. That list is distribution for beers brewed in the US only.
    Cantillon is one of the best at what they do. They and 3F make lambics and gueuzes that no one else can. They have been doing it for a VERY long time and the region they brew in Belgium has a rich history of beer making with probably 400+ years of history.

    Cheers!
  8. Its the newest thing on the hype train... but these beers actually live up to the hype, however I will say that there are very many reasonable substitutes out there that dont get the hype. In terms of their basic gueuze I would say that 3F, Hannssens, Girardin, and even Boon (IMO only the Mariage Parfait, as I really do not like the regular Boon Oude Geuze) are all comparable in quality to Cantillon and are much more attainable for the most part. I think the reason people clamor over Cantillon is for their more rare/one off/even less distributed beers. They seem to make a lot of very limited releases, many of which rarely end up in the US at all. Don't get me wrong, Cantillon Classic Gueuze is a great beer but people really seem to just go for the name once hype takes place.
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  9. Cantillon beers are imported into the US by Shelton Bros., their state distributors can be found here.
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  10. FosterJM

    FosterJM Champion (825) California Nov 16, 2009

    They drink good beer and post to BA before 7:15 in the AM?

    Cheers!
  11. I guess when I visited the brewery last month I should have brought back more than 2 bottles with me.
  12. The Cantillon brewery is very small and has limited capacity. The hype has made their beers hard to find in the US. The upside is that the brewery looked to be more prosperous when we last visited, due to the increased demand from the US.

    The beers are that good.
  13. aasher

    aasher Champion (900) Indiana Jan 27, 2010

    I don't understand the question? Yes please?
  14. DSlim71

    DSlim71 Savant (495) New Jersey Mar 3, 2010

    Haha, almost...10:15 here.
  15. BigGene

    BigGene Initiate (0) Florida Oct 30, 2010

    thanks for the info. I sent an email to Shelton/Fresh Beer in south florida to see if they get any Cantillon down my way.
  16. Cantillon is a little 100+ year old lambic brewery most people didnt give two shits about until a couple years ago they said they weren't going to make a certain beer for a while. Shortly after, the Cantillon bandwagon was created and now bottles that come to the US are scarce. And they continued making that beer.
  17. Cantillon was started in 1900. The style and technique are truely old.

    No one has mentioned De Cam, which is wonderful stuff.
  18. FosterJM

    FosterJM Champion (825) California Nov 16, 2009

    Hopefully by 10:15 my headache from last night will go away and my posts will be more coherant.

    Cheers!
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  19. Not so many years ago I could find dusty bottles on the shelf around here. Not now since the hype train left the station.
  20. YaKnowBrady

    YaKnowBrady Initiate (0) New Jersey Jul 23, 2010

    They're rubbish, and you can find them anywhere.

    The good stuff is Lindemans. World class. I'll trade you a full horizontal of all of them for all of your beers.
  21. 2009: Cantillon would sit on shelves endlessly in many markets. I used to find bottles from 2005-2007 quite regularly at many stores. Also, St. Lamvinus and Lou Pepe varieties sitting on the shelf of a very popular store for the whole year because of the price tags ($25-30).
    2010: Cantillon would sell out from most popular stores quickly but could still be found at the stores where bottles would collect a bit more dust. (Found 2005 Lou Pepe Framboise in NY, 2006 St Lamvinus NY/MA, 2007 Kriek in CT) If you knew when a store was getting a shipment, it wasn't hard to get a bottle or two.
    2011: The last time I saw any Cantillon on a shelf and haven't since. Checked many of those dusty bottle stores and it all disappeared (trips in NY, VT, PA, CT). In MA, stores get 1/2-2 cases at a time and it sells out usually in hours. For example, my local stores announced on Twitter they got 3 varieties, it was gone in 45 minutes.
    2012: Haven't purchased or even had the chance to purchase any Cantillon. Beer store employees seem to be much more aware of the Cantillon hype and hoard many bottles for themselves.

    This might be skewed from a MA perspective but getting this beer has just become too much of a hassle. Some stores seem to be doing raffles/giveaways because they get so few bottles with the 3-4 shipments per year. The prices don't bother me because I know I might only get 0-2 chances to actually buy bottles. The beer is very good and worth buying if you have the chance. Compared to many other sours/lambics, Cantillon just seems to be in a realm of their own. There is the problem, I have just given up on actually being able to find the beer. I would have to leave work immediately at 2PM (assuming a store announces online) with no previous knowledge that day and still might not get bottles 30 minutes later. That is how bad it is in this market. When I make it back to Europe I am going to spend 2-3 days in Belgium and make up for the lack of Cantillon over here. My body's pH will probably drop a few levels during that time.
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  22. Kaydogg

    Kaydogg Savant (385) Pennsylvania Jan 5, 2011

    as Foster said Lambics and gueuzes...much like an american sour..but much more complex with alot of differenct layers of tastes and flavors.. you can read some reviews to get an idea what people describe them as. Shelton Bros..does the States distribution.. and its a serious pain in the ass to track down and get..
    oh and Cantillon and Drie Font.. make some of the best beers Ive ever tried..

    [​IMG]
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  23. De Cam is amazing but I see it even less than Cantillon
  24. That is exactly what I will be doing in under a month! Im thinking of bringing a separate suitcase just to fill with beers and bring home so I can have some for a while. Ill pay the extra baggage fee.
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  25. Plenum

    Plenum Aficionado (225) New Jersey Apr 29, 2009

    Not that much of a different story in NJ.

    2009: Multiple vintages available of all Cantillon products that hit the US markets
    2010: Multiple bottles of recent releases on shelves, with the exception of Fou Foune
    2011: Multiple bottles of recent releases held in back rooms, available only to "good customers" who had the sense to ask for some
    2012: Bottles sell out before arriving at the store, distributors are lying to stores about getting or sending allocations, and it's become a complete clusterf^ck. And I placed my first order to buy Cantillon directly from Belgium
    2013: Starting my own private importing company to bring Cantillon to the U.S. for local distribution to my cellar
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  26. There are stores that get a case or more? I've seen it show up like twice here in 1 year and both times it was just 3 or 4 random bottles thrown in with other shipments. The distributor got one case to split between accounts. stores here don't even bother announcing it.

    Is stuff regularly available around Belgium or at least at the brewery?
  27. The impression that I am under is that there is always something at the brewery... I will be finding out soon, I would be disappointed if I went there and there was nothing!
  28. DSlim71

    DSlim71 Savant (495) New Jersey Mar 3, 2010

    I've only seen Classic Gueuze around here within the last year or so, and 2 places I know got a case. One sold out within a day or 2, and the other place didn't put it on shelves. They kept it in the back for "regulars". I have heard of places getting like 3 varieties at once, I'm assuming they got a case of each, but really don't have any concrete info on that.

    I've never been to Belgium, so really can't help there.
  29. MaxSpang

    MaxSpang Advocate (515) Ohio Jan 28, 2011

    Cantillon is new?
  30. No, new to the hype train.
  31. hype? No way. Just took people too long to get into sours.
  32. Thats true. And once they did, Cantillon got the hype so now people not even into sours are looking for them! It took me a while to get into sours as well but I am glad that there are many that fly under the radar.
  33. MaxSpang

    MaxSpang Advocate (515) Ohio Jan 28, 2011

    I've always seen Cantillon hype. Granted, I think the hype has grown a lot recently but I think Cantillon has always had a big following
  34. Depends on what you consider always. Couple years ago it was sitting around at many places that got it. Within the last year to year and a half its become very hyped up and as you mentioned its grown a lot recently.
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  35. sucks to be in the US i could walk into a store tomorrow and buy fou' foune, mamouche, st lamvinus, kriek and lou pepe variations. but ive already got shit loads under the house. maybe i should start trading?
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  36. I urge you to just continue to ignore the brand and go about your merry ways. You will save yourself a lot of time, effort, and money. The demand is just way over the supply in the US, and ordering overseas is very expensive with huge minimums to make it worthwhile. Consider ignorance bliss here.

    But yes, they are generally excellent beers, though their more limited releases are no better than their more regular releases. So if you do decide to start hunting, stick with the easier stuff first.
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  37. Trust me, you'll have better luck going through Etre Gourmet, Online Beer Shop
  38. pmoney

    pmoney Advocate (595) Colorado Apr 15, 2011

    This is true. i just placed an order yesterday that a buddy and I are going to split. Can't wait! Anyone know how long it typically takes to receive the package after ordering?
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  39. abraxel

    abraxel Savant (385) Michigan Aug 28, 2009

    I just placed an order two days ago and got a shipping notification today. I've heard some people have received their beer within a week, but I don't know if that's at all typical.

    Sorry for the like-unlike-like, btw... I first hit Like by accident instead of Reply, then Unliked, then decided that unliking was mean and liked it again :)
  40. WillCarrera

    WillCarrera Savant (485) Ohio Oct 11, 2010

    This is pretty much true. When I visited they had a pretty decent selection, I bought some LP Kriek, some gueuze, regular kriek and Rose de Gambrinus. You may not be able to find Fou Foune, but you may have a shot at Vigneronne and Saint Lamvinus and will almost certainly be able to get their regular gueuze and kriek. Have fun dude, they have an incredible self-guided tour, it's really a fun place.

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