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Cherry Rye for RR Sours

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk & Help' started by BobCobb, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. BobCobb

    BobCobb Savant (355) Illinois Jul 10, 2012

    Non-BA friend asked me to set up a trade for his Cherry Rye. He's looking for Pliny, Supplication and Temptation - probably just 1 of each. I'm not a sours fan at all so I don't really follow the latter two. Assuming $4$ is met with good shelf beers, is this legitimate?

  2. lurchingbeast

    lurchingbeast Initiate (0) Illinois Feb 19, 2009

    Those beers are fairly easy to find. You would get swamped with messages rather quickly.

    If he's really interested in them, I suggest going after a batch 4 Temptation. Really stunning beer right now.
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  3. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Advocate (505) Missouri May 11, 2012

    You can probably just order them online fairly easy, and he won't have to give up his Cherry Rye. Just sayin
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  4. Your inbox will be full really quick. That said. If he asks for 1 of each it comes out to roughly $30.
  5. ArrogantB

    ArrogantB Advocate (700) Colorado Jun 9, 2006

    Batch 004 Temptation came out four years ago and anyone who still has one isn't dumb enough to give it up for a Cherry Rye, c'mon man.
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  6. ArrogantB

    ArrogantB Advocate (700) Colorado Jun 9, 2006

    I drank one three weeks ago from the case I bought in 09 and its held up well but its really not stunning, that beer peaked in the summer of 2010.
  7. lurchingbeast

    lurchingbeast Initiate (0) Illinois Feb 19, 2009

    I must have really lucked out the 3 times I've landed a b4 in 2012 alone. Traded less than Cherry Rye.

    Everything from CA peaked in 2010, according to Californians. I disagree with your assessment.
  8. Azrael

    Azrael Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013

    Wow. To think I was considering getting into trading.... I don't think I want to anymore.
  9. lurchingbeast

    lurchingbeast Initiate (0) Illinois Feb 19, 2009

  10. Azrael

    Azrael Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013

    I don't think my old beer (like Temptation '04) would land anything good.
  11. lurchingbeast

    lurchingbeast Initiate (0) Illinois Feb 19, 2009

    To put it in perspective, I bought 2 batch 4's while in SF in August. I bought 2 Cherry Ryes while living every day in Chicagoland. I think it is a fair trade straight up.
  12. ArrogantB

    ArrogantB Advocate (700) Colorado Jun 9, 2006

    But I'm not from California..Its fine if you disagree but did you actually drink one in the summer of 2010? Better yet have you been drinking down a case steadily since release because I have.
  13. ArrogantB

    ArrogantB Advocate (700) Colorado Jun 9, 2006

    It's just the typical Midwest vs California rivalry.
  14. Azrael

    Azrael Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013

    Were they still on shelves or was it a cellar sale? I didn't realize you could buy them at any time in SF. I thought they were gone from shelves for a few years. My mistake.
  15. Arbitrator

    Arbitrator Initiate (0) California Nov 26, 2008

    No, you had it right. It was a cellar sale at the T25 release with a limited number of bottles. They ran out before I got any.

    My advice to you is not to get into trading.
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  16. 7clutch

    7clutch Savant (255) Florida Sep 14, 2012

    Here comes themind with an offer in 5...4...3...2....

    ^^Just expect to have to go over $4$ ;)
  17. It's near impossible for him to get a case of Supplication. So 1:1 sounds right

    Plus it's aged 15 months in Pinot Noir barrels! Yum!
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  18. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Advocate (710) Illinois Jan 8, 2009

    Coincidentally I have had around 10 bottles of B4 since it's release and I for one still think it is drinking amazing (having opened one less than a month ago). I have always preferred Temptation with some age on it though. Different palates I suppose :)
  19. ArrogantB

    ArrogantB Advocate (700) Colorado Jun 9, 2006

    And this is why I dislike most traders. A four year old vintage beer being sold in one city at one bar for one day in limited quantities is pretty much a shelf beer just like the beer that was just released to multiple stores in multiple states. I guess anything Bottleworks releases is a shelf beer too. FT: Cherry Rye ISO: Deviation or NB Bottleworks 10.
  20. ArrogantB

    ArrogantB Advocate (700) Colorado Jun 9, 2006

    It is indeed still good but my experience with numerous batches of Temptation tells me it peaks at one year.
  21. mattafett

    mattafett Savant (465) Iowa Mar 9, 2009

    No rivalry, we are worlds better! ;)
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  22. lurchingbeast

    lurchingbeast Initiate (0) Illinois Feb 19, 2009

    Purely from memory I'd say I've had 8-9 bottles of batch 4 since late '09. It was the only batch readily available when I was really getting into sours. It quickly became my favorite RR sour. I've sampled from 4 bottles in the last 9ish months. I do think it is just past it's peak but an absolutely phenominal beer and still the best batch of Temptation as of this moment. Personal preference of course. Coincidentally, I just very recently had a batch 3 that was unremarkable in every way. Part of me thinks batch differences. Part of me thinks the large format of batch 4 really helped this one age gracefully.

    I'm heartbroken.
    I must have missed the time when Deviation and BW10 were brewed in multiple batches every year. Or when you could easily drive up to the brewery (or many of your finer beer stores) and pick up a case. Simply being an old, readily available sour doesn't mean it's impossible to trade for. Temptation is also released in multiple stores in multiple states. Good luck trading fresh Temptation for Cherry Rye, I guess.
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