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Churchill's Finest Hour

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk & Help' started by funkel81, Mar 5, 2013.

  1. funkel81

    funkel81 Advocate (500) Colorado Jan 23, 2011 Beer Trader

    2010 rAvg = 3.92
    2011 rAvg = 4.36
    2012 rAvg = 4.55
    2013 rAvg = 4.71

    what can be deduced here? should 2010 trade for shelf beer? are people rating it higher to hype? is it falling off quickly? is 2013 so much better? has the recipe changed? discuss...
  2. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Advocate (515) Texas Apr 13, 2010

    Needs more reviews.
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  3. 2010 = infection
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  4. Side by side 2012 was better than 2013 and in the end the reviews will show this... if not more
  5. 2010 BA Score = 87
    2011 BA Score = 95
    2012 BA Score = 99
    2013 BA Score = 96
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  6. MarkIntihar

    MarkIntihar Advocate (700) Michigan Mar 17, 2010

    I can say with 100% certainty that it's a grand scheme by SoCal traders to hype a beer that would otherwise completely fly under the radar. I mean, it's not like you had to be there by 5 a.m. just to get a bottle to take home...
    ridglens, Hugonaut13, libbey and 11 others like this.
  7. Duffman929

    Duffman929 Savant (415) Illinois Nov 27, 2010 Beer Trader

    And stand in the freezing sun
  8. mrbubbler

    mrbubbler Savant (395) California Jun 16, 2008

    It's a blend first off so yes every year is different. 2010 was infected, though i have heard of people having uninfected bottles. 2012 was a fantastic year for Churchills, it was a very smooth and balanced beer with wonderful chocolate notes. 2013 is a little hot currently but in my opinion has the greatest potential out of the line up. (no i'm not hyping, i wasn't able to get any bottles of 2013)
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  9. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poobah (1,475) California Mar 18, 2010 Verified

    Last year a well known whale hunter from OC decided to proclaim loudly to everyone at Churchill's to rate the 2012 vintage to all 5s in order to up its trade value. He also walked out with an entire case of said beer.
  10. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) California Jan 27, 2012

    I only believe positive reviews if the reviewer doesn't live in the same State as the beer was produced

    I only believe negative reviews if the reviewer lives in the same State as the beer was produced.
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  11. OakedCanuck

    OakedCanuck Savant (475) Washington Jun 23, 2009

    Nailed it.
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  12. someone just stumbles into a room with a fistfull of implications and zero information, this seems like a promising start to a discussion.

    what can be deduced by listing 4 out of context rdev scores for a beer that is different every year? this i guess:

    2010 was infected, so there you go
    2011 is a completely different blend, as is every single year, and a very good beer
    2012 is world class and delicious, read some of the 118 ratings from all over the nation. or do a quick search for what it traded for.
    2013 I enjoyed even more than 2012, some babypalates called it too hot, what can be deduced here is that there are too few reviews at this point to determine just how full of shit the self interested traders are. might as well preemptively call them out though, just in case.

    should 2010 trade for shelf beer? I don't know, I am not the boss of bilateral exchanges.
    are people rating it higher to hype? not sure. why not BM the 15 people who reviewed it and accuse them directly
    is it falling off quickly? no, each year is different.
    is 2013 so much better? it has a lower BA score and a smaller rating sample, so I dont know why this question was posited.
    has the recipe changed? I guess, each year is a different blend.

    what was the point of this thread, I dont even
  13. funkel81

    funkel81 Advocate (500) Colorado Jan 23, 2011 Beer Trader

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  15. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) California Jan 27, 2012

    Cherry juice into normal BCBS - DONE bro.
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  16. Lane1

    Lane1 Aficionado (240) California Jan 10, 2011 Verified

    Damn, that's a lot of hate. I think it's a fantastic beer, but how many beers with the crazy hype behind it live up? I think the quality and bottle count make it highly sought after. I try not to pay attention to much hype and remember that it's "just beer". And it's a fantastic beer at that
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  17. Mista

    Mista Savant (260) Minnesota Nov 10, 2011 Beer Trader

    If Cherry Rye is what you seek I'm your guy. Cherry Rye + ? = CFH'13

    on a side note why did they pick such a crappy poop brown color for the wax?
  18. FishPondManager

    FishPondManager Advocate (530) Colorado Feb 28, 2012 Beer Trader

    I just launched half a taster of Odell Red from my face hole across the Odell tap room. :)
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  19. ehammond1

    ehammond1 Champion (790) Jul 4, 2008

    It was meant to be a much more olive green wax as opposed to the (yes, ugly) brown. It was more green, apparently, during the waxing process but when the wax dried, it turned more and more brown.
  20. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) California Jan 27, 2012

    The joint Winny is smoking has green smoke at least.
  21. Had 11, 12 and 13 all side by side this past weekend. All were amazing. This beer is a world class barrel aged stout. Right up there with the best of them.

    What should CFH trade for? I would say another great beer like itself.
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  22. Shmeal

    Shmeal Advocate (575) Oregon Nov 9, 2009 Beer Trader

    It was made with real poop
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  23. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) California Jan 27, 2012

    Kopi Luwak CFH?
  24. Ya Ivan said he wishes they would have made it green like the cigar smoke is on the bottle. Oh well.
  25. xnicknj

    xnicknj Advocate (740) Pennsylvania May 25, 2009

    he'd probably have to microwave it too
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  26. usofar

    usofar Savant (340) California Dec 23, 2010

    I still like 2013 better by a hair, but you can't go wrong with either.
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  27. Siggy125

    Siggy125 Advocate (635) California Nov 10, 2006 Beer Trader

    If you got there at 600am, you missed out. And categorizing trader behavior/mentality by geography is ridiculous.
  28. IPAyForHops

    IPAyForHops Savant (280) California Apr 24, 2010

    there ya go, fixed;) (speaking from personal experience)
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  29. My ears still hurt from walking across to your table to tell you that you were incorrect in your untappd checkin. ;) Man it was loud inside
  30. usofar

    usofar Savant (340) California Dec 23, 2010

    What? Wait that's not funny I'm reading here not trying to hear you. You're probably right as everyone at my table agreed with you. What can i say? I guess i like them hot.
  31. MarkIntihar

    MarkIntihar Advocate (700) Michigan Mar 17, 2010

  32. This is the correct response to ongoing nonsense between idiots trying to hype and discredit the beer. Everyone needs to shit the fuck up already. If I could drink at lunch in high school. This is what it's be like.
  33. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Advocate (515) Texas Apr 13, 2010

    Hell yeah!
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  34. MordorMongo

    MordorMongo Champion (750) Jul 19, 2009

    I'm starting to think none of you mother fuckers picked one up for me? I mean WTF, bro? I was going to snag you a 4 pack of KBS and shit to add to my Cherry Rye.

    Greedy fucking amateurs.
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  35. It was a fucking secret goddammit, Scott!
  36. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Advocate (745) Massachusetts Mar 17, 2009 Beer Trader

    '10-'12 did not blow me away. Good BA stout but I would not participate in the 6am circle jerk for it. I'd be okay with trading SubpoenaDeuces the midwest.rar shelf whales that get distributed here for some Churchill's though.
  37. Gotta love autocorrect. It's shut when I want shit and shit when I want shut.
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  38. Siggy125

    Siggy125 Advocate (635) California Nov 10, 2006 Beer Trader

    I'm very impressed that my comment stimulated this level effort. Well done!
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  39. .......Wax?
  40. The point of this thread is:


    or something along those lines.
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