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Endangered/Extinct Whales

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk & Help' started by JulianB, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. More out of curiosity than anything else, are there some rare (bottled) beers out there which have attracted at least some degree of attention/notoriety, and are either extinct or "endangered" (the number of unconsumed bottles is known to be exceptionally low, on reasonably good evidence)?
  2. yeahnatenelson

    yeahnatenelson Advocate (710) Illinois Feb 8, 2010 Beer Trader

    2004 BA Dark Lord.
  3. brian23456

    brian23456 Savant (265) Minnesota Apr 29, 2008

    I was lucky to land a 2005 BA Old Salty recently, its been on my wants since '09 and I thought it was extinct. Goes to show you, there's usually at least one still out there!
    There's a few old whales you see people looking for regularly that I wonder how many there are left, Yellow Bus, '07 Darkness, Dave, M. I doubt any of them are actually extinct, hoarders are good at hoarding.
  4. usofar

    usofar Savant (340) California Dec 23, 2010

    After kegs of 08 PVW Eclipse and 07 Old Fitz Eclipse showed up at the Eclipse release party last December, I often wonder what the brewers of these extremely limited beers still have set aside. How much Dave is still left at HOTD? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Whale Bro? The world may never know.
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  5. JohnGalt1

    JohnGalt1 Champion (920) Idaho Aug 10, 2005 Beer Trader

    I know somebody that has an '05 BA Old Salty... I believe he is scared to ship it because the first time I met him was at a BeerAdvocate/RateBeer come together tasting and I actually opened the same bottle (probably early 2009ish). Opened it with a PPPFFFSSSST AND a 4 foot GEYSER inside a nice restaurant. I don't believe it was anything to do with the bottle; but I accidentally shook the shit out of it on the way to the tasting.

    It was pretty embarrassing, but was still an awesome tasting brew.
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  6. podunkparte

    podunkparte Savant (435) Washington Nov 14, 2009

    Black Cherry Bomb and Dirty Horse have got to be pretty endangered at this point.

    I've heard rumors of stashes of M in the Great North, but who knows for sure?
  7. HenrikO

    HenrikO Aficionado (215) Sweden Jun 19, 2011

    There can't be _that_ much 3F Framboos left, a lot of people I've spoken to who were at Sour & Bitter last year have already drunk their allotment of 3 bottles (since it's a great beer!). Many people who were there were not traders and thus do not hoard (as much).

    And no, I'm not writing this to drive up the value of my own Framboos. I'm happy to just drink it down the line!

    All best,
  8. mkabull

    mkabull Savant (405) Massachusetts Nov 2, 2007 Beer Trader

    Brewers do hold back beers. For example this season on Drinking Made Easy they cracked a bottle of M at the brewery.
  9. You better be talking 99 Framboos.
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  10. MarkIntihar

    MarkIntihar Advocate (700) Michigan Mar 17, 2010

    Don't you mean '06? Or do you know something I don't?
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  11. yeahnatenelson

    yeahnatenelson Advocate (710) Illinois Feb 8, 2010 Beer Trader

    No, you're right. 2006.
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  12. MarkIntihar

    MarkIntihar Advocate (700) Michigan Mar 17, 2010

    Just gotta track down Benny Hill. Seems simple enough, right? :rolleyes:
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  13. MordorMongo

    MordorMongo Champion (750) Jul 19, 2009

    Original, real, Four Loko.
  14. I'd be worried about the cellaring conditions, but I bet there are a few pristine ones located in the dark corners of some fraternity basements.
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  15. Tnudish

    Tnudish Savant (315) Wisconsin Feb 16, 2012

    Spuyten Duyvil
    Bourgogne (around, but very, very expensive)
    Groseille/Groseille a Maquereau
    OG Soleil de Minuit
    Feestbier HBL
    Selectie C
    A plethora of other Cantillon ghost whales
  16. dvelcich

    dvelcich Savant (370) Illinois Feb 6, 2008

    Not whales, but I was very surprised at the difficulty I had obtaining an Ithaca Kaffinator, and I still haven't gotten a Wyerbacher Prophecy despite making great offers in the past. The hoarders just let you down sometimes. :(
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  17. BigGene

    BigGene Savant (380) Florida Oct 30, 2010

    Im sure breweys save alot of stuff. Cigar City has a Hidden (sort of) 54@ cellar behind one of the big coolers. Last time I was in it i saw cases of Hunahpus dated back at least a few years. I saw cases of Leon, Sweet Stout and some others. Didnt have a lot of time to geek out. Just took a quick look and saw some labels I recognized.

    My guess is that alot of placed keep a back stock to age and to offer at later dates.
  18. Knifestyles

    Knifestyles Savant (465) New York Jun 7, 2005

    Kuhnhenn Extraneous Cassis.

    (Many people will insist that they have a bottle, but they've simply just confused it with their bottle of Tenacious Cassis)
  19. Tnudish

    Tnudish Savant (315) Wisconsin Feb 16, 2012

    Double Raspberry Truffle Pyment is impossible to find as well
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  20. DanGolfs86

    DanGolfs86 Savant (310) Illinois Dec 2, 2010

  21. stupac2

    stupac2 Advocate (565) California Feb 22, 2011

    I bet there's actually a ton of that left. Struise tapped at least one keg last year for CBC, I'd be surprised if they'd do that when there's little left. (Then again, who knows? I don't know how Urbain's mind works.)
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  22. beerdweeb

    beerdweeb Savant (345) California Nov 28, 2010 Beer Trader

    Ha! No one knows how Urbain's mind works. FWIW, there was at least two kegs. Unless they faked "running out" of it the first day of the event.
  23. rgco

    rgco Aficionado (180) California Apr 2, 2012

    Pliny the Eldest
  24. drewba

    drewba Savant (385) Illinois Nov 14, 2009

    I doubt this very much.
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  25. stupac2

    stupac2 Advocate (565) California Feb 22, 2011

    I'm shocked at how long it lasted. If that event had been in the US it would've ran out in 30 minutes, maybe less. I think it was still on when I left like 4 or 5 hours after the start.
  26. nicks6217

    nicks6217 Savant (430) California Jan 15, 2010 Beer Trader

    yellow bus is probably closeto being extinct.
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  27. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) California Jan 27, 2012

    '06 Darkness?
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  28. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) California Jan 27, 2012

    Wales don't have to be good!
  29. nogidrew86

    nogidrew86 Savant (260) Nevada Aug 16, 2010

    Dirty weekend beaver juice
  30. Pliny in New Jersey?
  31. yeahnatenelson

    yeahnatenelson Advocate (710) Illinois Feb 8, 2010 Beer Trader

    ...and they usually aren't.
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  32. cfrances33

    cfrances33 Champion (795) Illinois Jun 12, 2012 Beer Trader

    I would be curious as to the amount of Saison Lambic Pinot Noir still floating around...
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  33. MrKennedy

    MrKennedy Advocate (690) Australia Dec 29, 2006 Beer Trader

    Selectie C

    Zero gots, on the White Whale list, I've rarely seen it put up or sought out
  34. The 07 and 08 Eclipse kegs were the last of it we were pretty sure the 07 was going to be a stinker but it held up well. With many personnel charges over the years the old stuff has been forgotten or the markings faded.
  35. fortsambo

    fortsambo Savant (315) Colorado Feb 14, 2011 Beer Trader

    Pliny the farter is extinct, but I sure wish he would return.
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  36. usofar

    usofar Savant (340) California Dec 23, 2010

    Sounds like it's time to make the Pappy Van Winkle version again then ;) Thanks for always being so forthcoming with info Todd!
  37. usofar

    usofar Savant (340) California Dec 23, 2010

    Once the El Cajon Chapter 11 proceedings end I'm going to need a new source of entertainment.
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  38. Anonymous1

    Anonymous1 Advocate (500) Illinois Mar 19, 2012 Beer Trader

  39. FalconA

    FalconA Savant (355) Massachusetts Aug 10, 2011

    Really? I see it on the trade forum almost every other day :rolleyes:
  40. MrKennedy

    MrKennedy Advocate (690) Australia Dec 29, 2006 Beer Trader