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Feel the Burn: Stone Brewing Co. Releases Crime & Punishment

Discussion in 'Beer Releases' started by Todd, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Champion (905) Michigan Jun 18, 2012 Verified

    "HA!" - Ms. Krabappel
  2. Just picked up a few bottles of each..l'll keep ya'll posted!!
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  3. TheFarmBoy3

    TheFarmBoy3 Aficionado (160) California Sep 9, 2013 Verified

    I'd say Crime and Punishment are at least as intense as Habañero Sculpin. I wouldn't be surprised at all fit the Stone beers were spicier. The Sculpin is lighter/crisp and Punishment a little thicker with a little bit of sweetness. Crime somewhere in the middle. I personally love super spicy food so I really enjoy all three beers. Not for everyone I learned after serving at a BBQ. Hope that helps. Cheers!
  4. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Advocate (690) Colorado Jan 20, 2012

    Damn. Sounds like stones reputation for affordable beers is going to hell.
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  5. josmickam

    josmickam Savant (360) Georgia Apr 19, 2013 Verified

    Has anyone seen these in Kentucky? I haven't seen them in any of the beer stores that usually receive most releases.
  6. RangnaR

    RangnaR Savant (425) California Dec 17, 2012

    You're not alone. I haven't seen any of them here in Sacramento, CA either..
  7. SanFranJake

    SanFranJake Champion (990) California Nov 2, 2012 Verified

    I know Roseville is a stretch but maybe the WF there...?
  8. teledeluxe

    teledeluxe Savant (445) Illinois Nov 21, 2013 Verified

    What, no Scoville ratings?
  9. WTKeene

    WTKeene Advocate (645) Texas Jul 13, 2013 Verified

    I'd never spend that much on a beer that is getting such poor reviews. Considering I'm not a fan of that level of spiciness, I probably wouldn't buy them even if they were getting great reviews though.
    johnnieoz likes this.
  10. Had Crime at a family Thanksgiving party. I'm a huge fan of spicy food, and this didn't disappoint in the spiciness department. Flavor was pretty much all pepper up front though -- not the heat, the actual pepper flavor (smoky, vegetal). Then the heat slowly creeps in and raises intensity on the back of the taste and lingers for a while. My only wish was that something from the base beer shone through. I didn't get any bourbon or barrel notes at all, unless they contributed some of the smoky char flavors.

    I paired it with some really rich and creamy flan, and the combo was very nice.

    Probably wouldn't buy a bottle again unless it was cheaper, so I'm waiting for the eventual clearance sale on these.
    RummyRedbeard, StLeasy and corby112 like this.
  11. StLeasy

    StLeasy Advocate (520) Illinois Sep 8, 2013

    If it really smells and tastes like roasted raw chile peppers, I'm in for a treat :)
    DeanMoriarty and oxcitypauze like this.
  12. StLeasy

    StLeasy Advocate (520) Illinois Sep 8, 2013

    If it really smells and tastes like roasted raw chile peppers, I'm in for a treat :)
  13. Buzzardsuds

    Buzzardsuds Initiate (0) Ohio May 27, 2013

    Opened a Crime last weekend! What a change from Cave Creek Chille Beer! At least it was drinkable! Definately a sipper! Most everyone hated it! Glad I tried it, but I don't think I'll buy it again, especially at $20!
  14. HawkeyeNation

    HawkeyeNation Savant (490) Iowa Jun 18, 2013 Verified

    Tried Crime. Completely undrinkable to me. I tried Ghostface Killah and thought nothing could be worse than that, but I think this beat it. If you love spicy beers, you're in for a treat.
  15. RangnaR

    RangnaR Savant (425) California Dec 17, 2012

    Actually Roseville is right in my wheelhouse, but I have not seen it anywhere there as recently as last week (Whole Foods, BevMo, TW, and Nugget). Although I would most love to run across some Southern Charred...
    SanFranJake likes this.
  16. SanFranJake

    SanFranJake Champion (990) California Nov 2, 2012 Verified

    That I have yet to see, even in the Bay Area but I hear it's around in the East Bay at BevMo at $20 a pop.
  17. As an aside, those of you in San Diego county who like spicy beers should also try Iron Fist's Death of a Blonde aged on vanilla and ghost chiles. VERY nice.
  18. Seriously though, how are you supposed to pronounce 'Basartd.' Is it Bah-sar-ta-duh?
  19. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Poobah (1,135) New York Aug 25, 2010 Verified

    $19.99 each, those Bastards...
    Originally only picked up Punishment, thinking, why bother with Crime, but my willpower is quite poor in these regards.

    Be drinking both tomorrow :rolleyes:
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  20. Skunkdrool

    Skunkdrool Advocate (550) California Jul 31, 2010 Verified

    I love chili beers, and Crime had a wonderful spice. However, the flavor was awful. It was like drinking bell pepper/jalapeno juice. I tried to like it. But its really bad.
    johnnieoz likes this.
  21. mcrago

    mcrago Savant (405) Indiana Oct 6, 2012

    I had an opportunity to pick these up in Indianapolis a few weeks back, but at $20 a bottle I passed.
  22. IPAguy2009

    IPAguy2009 Aficionado (205) Oregon Oct 22, 2010

    Anyone try these yet? Supposedly they are made with quite the line up of peppers that are no joke! Do they leave ya dying or???? I was thinking about picking one of em up but I'm also not sure as to how they differ. I've consumed a dried ghost chili and good lord I was in agony for about 15 minutes, almost made it through an entire gallon of milk which ontop of being in such pain, I also had to struggle to keep all that leche down. And I wont even mention that next morning lol.....
  23. m4ttj0nes

    m4ttj0nes Savant (270) Oregon Feb 21, 2012 Verified

    these are lackluster, and that is putting it lightly.
    jcos likes this.
  24. CardsWinAgain

    CardsWinAgain Savant (285) Washington Jul 24, 2013 Verified

    they're spicy as hell. they literally smell like nothing but pepper and taste about the same. save your $$.
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  25. IPAguy2009

    IPAguy2009 Aficionado (205) Oregon Oct 22, 2010

    Thanks for the info, I wouldnt expect anything less coming from stone, if it is supposed to be spicy, I dont have any doubt it is at scorching hot levels!
  26. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,120) Washington Sep 18, 2010 Verified

    These beers are a real puzzler for me. (Caveat: I haven't tried them. I bought one each of Crime and Punishment, then returned them to Whole Foods after I took a quick look at the reviews.) Stone's generally known for pretty reasonable pricing on its beer. They experiment, but they don't often put out straight-up objectionable product. And if they do, they don't also charge out the nose for it. I just don't get why Stone priced these beers so high. Just seems really out of character for this brewery.

    These beers might outlast Collage in the pricey shelf turd category, and Collage is actually good.
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  27. CardsWinAgain

    CardsWinAgain Savant (285) Washington Jul 24, 2013 Verified

    You returned beers to whole foods!?
  28. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,120) Washington Sep 18, 2010 Verified

    Sure, why not. Then I went and spent that $40 elsewhere on about 3x the beer.
    EDIT: Note that WF is overpriced, to the contrary. Just that $40 for 1 liter of beer (that's not even regarded very highly) is pretty ridiculous.
  29. Eighty

    Eighty Savant (380) Washington Feb 17, 2013

    I never enjoyed Mike's Hard until I had one right after drinking Crime. Sweet, sweet salvation.
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  30. jwhancher

    jwhancher Savant (355) Pennsylvania Mar 28, 2009

    Just curious what others have paid for these. A buddy of mine told me he shelled out $25 a pop for these. I'd like to try them, but not at these prices.
  31. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Poobah (1,005) Illinois May 21, 2013 Verified

    What makes it even more perplexing is that they released Southern Charred at the same time which is currently their HIGHEST rated beer. Perhaps it was a clever stunt by which the atrocities of Crime and Punishment serve as a backdrop for how sublime Southern Charred is?

    (Note that I haven't tried any of the three, though I do have a bottle of Southern Charred waiting for consumption - picking was like Russian Roulette and, thankfully, I avoided a loaded chamber.)
  32. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,120) Washington Sep 18, 2010 Verified

    Well the stunt backfired, on me at least. I saw Southern Charred, also priced @ $20 for a 500mL, and passed on it.
  33. Lansman

    Lansman Advocate (500) Illinois Mar 19, 2011 Verified

    Punishment is FANTASTIC when added to chili.
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  34. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Poobah (1,005) Illinois May 21, 2013 Verified

    My speculation about the stunt was sarcastic - high prices and a crap shoot on quality isn't a great marketing ploy. But if Southern Charred is as good as people say, I won't hold it against them.
  35. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Poobah (1,005) Illinois May 21, 2013 Verified

    You just have to find a way to charge $30 for a bowl of chili and you're in business.
    chinochino likes this.
  36. johnnieoz

    johnnieoz Savant (305) Hawaii Feb 11, 2005

    Bought both. Tried Crime, poured it down the drain. Only pepper flavors, nothing else shone through. I mean, any old Scotch, Vodka, Bourbon, brandy will burn your throat but at least they have some balance. Returned Punishment the next day. What a joke, Stone. Really.
  37. johnnieoz

    johnnieoz Savant (305) Hawaii Feb 11, 2005

    What do the Bros think? Should Stone, or any brewer, release a beer that's beyond the pale and just plain unacceptable. And then laugh all the way to the bank? I eat a lot of spicy food, but that food has varied flavors unlike these beers.
  38. krustster

    krustster Savant (335) Michigan Nov 22, 2013 Verified

    Maybe they were happy with the beer they created and released it because they thought other people would like it too. Just a thought~
    bozodogbreath likes this.
  39. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,120) Washington Sep 18, 2010 Verified

    Sell it to beer geeks?
  40. Just picked up Punishment for $16. I was a little taken back considering that Stone is usually very reasonably priced.