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Filling generic growlers

Discussion in 'US - Pacific' started by ModernTimesJacob, Feb 13, 2013.

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  1. DrtyBvrJuce

    DrtyBvrJuce Member

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    Do any of the shipping companies xray? Same with airlines...I'd be worried the SS would raise a flag and warrant inspection...worker opens the as growler...beer ruined. I know when in was flying from Portland to San Diego I checked through 4 3gal kegs that were empty/open when the xray machine wasin the lobby. I watched the TSA freak out and open my bags. I was watching and told them they were open and empty. No biggie...but a full SS growler could be filled with anything from their perspective...I'm too scared to try it and I see their view point. Same with shipping. Red flag.

    As for MikeTen he must be an internet anonymous tough guy. There's no way he'd say this to a brewery owner face to face.

    especially to tell them he called the ABC in to root through their business because he perceives they're not moving fast enough on his abritary timeline.

    Evilc... where did you order a blank SS growler from?
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  2. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Member

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    MikeTen: the hero BA needs, but doesn't deserve!!!

    I will never visit a brewery that refuses to fill a blank growler again. To be honest, growler fills are a sham to begin with, anybody who gets them filled is a sucker to the system
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    ANNNNNNDDDD,,,,,,, Im drunk\!!
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  3. flexabull

    flexabull Member

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  4. MikeTen

    MikeTen Member

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    I'm not the one who came out swinging for the fences giving out "Douchebag of the year" awards, and I didn't threaten anyone.

    You've been around for 6 weeks. Whose anonymous tough guy troll account are you?
  5. jasonmason

    jasonmason Member

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    So then, bluntly: which breweries did you contact the ABC about?
  6. MikeTen

    MikeTen Member

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    You're kidding, right? Open myself up to ANOTHER round of name-calling and abuse.

    Let's just pretend it's breweries you don't care about. It'll help you sleep at night.
  7. jasonmason

    jasonmason Member

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    Well, you sure seemed not to care about it before. You're awfully defensive once you're asked to back up your bluster.

    You act like I have some sort of dog in this fight. I don't. I want this mess cleared up. Yet where you and I differ is that I don't agree that financial/regulatory threats stemming from the public are the most effective way to get action.
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  8. DrtyBvrJuce

    DrtyBvrJuce Member

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    Wasnt for me...it was for the breweries you're dicking over.

    Figure they might like to know who's screwing with their business.
  9. SageO

    SageO Member

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  10. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Member

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    I'm pretty sure the breweries will be fine despite what MikeTen did. BTW, what's with the brewery apologist stance? Most of the people discussing this issue here are providing plenty of rational arguments for why this recent clarification in the law would be beneficial to both the brewery and consumer, yet your posts in this thread give off an apologist tone.
  11. MikeTen

    MikeTen Member

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    There's a difference between not caring when attacked and openly giving you more ammunition for a second round of attacks. I only hope my silence is as irritating to you as you guys have been to me over the past couple of days.

    That's fine. You're entitled to your viewpoint. I still don't get why anyone thinks it is ok for any brewery to use the law as protection when they're not following it in the first place.

    I'm not going to listen to a troll account get preachy over anonymity.
  12. rrryanc

    rrryanc Member

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    There's a few folks posting here like that. It's actually kind of amusing that they think the "won't someone think of the poor children brewers works for this particular argument. They've been using the law to shaft consumers for years, but using that same law back on them is mean and hurtful!
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  13. DrtyBvrJuce

    DrtyBvrJuce Member

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    They weren't shafting anyone. A brewery isn't required by law to fill blank/other growlers.
  14. DrtyBvrJuce

    DrtyBvrJuce Member

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    Says the guy ratting to the ABC while hiding behind a keyboard.
  15. MikeTen

    MikeTen Member

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    You could always prove your commitment to openness by telling everyone your other screenname. I'd look really foolish then.
  16. DrtyBvrJuce

    DrtyBvrJuce Member

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    The issue isn't me or my single account. Nice attempt at deflection. This is about you acting like an ass and whining to the ABC. You're the only one who's done anything that may harm a brewery that we're supposed to be advocates for.
  17. rrryanc

    rrryanc Member

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    Not speaking for MikeTen, but personally I'm an advocate for good beer and not the breweries. Not sure why you're blindly supporting them over the consumers.
  18. MikeTen

    MikeTen Member

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    ....Really? Not a shred of irony?

    The issue isn't either of us. It's getting easier access to good beer. You guys have such low self-esteem that you're not only willing to accept the status quo, you hammer wildly at people seeking to change it.

    And for the last time, stop complaining that I'm doing things anonymously if you can't even face me with your real account. It makes you lose credibility.
  19. DrtyBvrJuce

    DrtyBvrJuce Member

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    Ha. Your arrogance is truly blinding you. You're not helping at all. Done with you. Hope some brewieres ban you.
  20. CAbeerCAbeerCA

    CAbeerCAbeerCA Member

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    This thread has gotten silly.

    Bottom line is that we all want breweries to fill blank growlers with legal documentation. What I have learned is that most breweries are very consumer friendly, so I am guessing they are working on this. I give it ~6 months until this is all settled.
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  21. Earlycsquid

    Earlycsquid Member

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    Yeah, I think the main point is that whole "Nah man, it's against the law" while openly not following the letter of the law, seems to be the worst thing about all of this.

    I'd also like to not have a ton of growlers. I get that it's free marketing and branding for them, as well as an incentive in growler sales. But how much are they leaving on the table by not adapting something that is better for the beer drinking consumers.

    But it's pretty clear from even Patrick Rue's attempt to unify and create a growler collective, that most breweries enjoy cherry picking the laws to their benefit.
  22. sirtomtom

    sirtomtom Member

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  23. evilc

    evilc Member

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  24. DrtyBvrJuce

    DrtyBvrJuce Member

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  25. evilc

    evilc Member

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    It was 22....direct sale. Keep an eye on it. Now it's 'fulfilled' by Amazon.
  26. Kyle2k10

    Kyle2k10 Member

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  27. sirtomtom

    sirtomtom Member

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  28. Sebowski

    Sebowski Member

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  29. SageO

    SageO Member

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    I chose my words carefully. =p

  30. Sebowski

    Sebowski Member

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    I have a 40oz Stone Kanteen, and I love that thing. Mainly for water, but when I get fills that sommabitch POPS when I open it. Great at holding carbonation. Also easy to hold on to with the loop handle.

    They don't make 32oz ones though, so I'm going to boycott every brewery that won't fill 18oz, 27oz, and 40oz blank vessels. I'm a BA, dammit! AND I DEMAND SATISFACTION!
  31. trbergman

    trbergman Member

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    Illinois
    As an out-of-market observer, and before reading past the first couple pages of replies, would a static cling label attached to a generic growler screen printed with surgeon general's warning, etc., meet state requirements? I imagine if the state brewers' guild organized bulk orders of standard growlers (64oz, 2L?) breweries could still maintain reasonable margins on sales of new glass. As I assume most breweries are set up to fill either 64oz screwtop or 2L swingtop growlers, beer geeks would only have to have two generic growlers to get fills.
  32. Sebowski

    Sebowski Member

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    TL;DR
  33. errantnight

    errantnight Member

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    California
    I agree with your first point (it's not about "us" but getting easier access to good beer), but let's be clear, I'm not part of the second group. I don't like the status quo and I'm hammering SPECIFICALLY at tactics (yours) that I think will be actively counterproductive in changing it.
  34. mrkrispy

    mrkrispy Member

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    Hopefully Alpine moves to blank growlers with a tracking device that causes them to explode if they leave San Diego county.
  35. evilc

    evilc Member

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    rofl
  36. besaunders

    besaunders Member

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    California
    Exploding may be too obvious. Instead, have them release the barrel aged infection bomb.
  37. rrryanc

    rrryanc Member

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    California
    So, normal then?
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  38. besaunders

    besaunders Member

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    No, because the bomb would release that yummy flavor in any Alpine beer, barrel aged or not. Try to take Expo or Hoppy birthday out of the county? BAM! Mmmmm, tastes like raunchy Raven.
  39. Xul

    Xul Member

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    California
    Apparently, that was set to explode once you left the confines of the City of Alpine. Damn San Diegans coming in to buy up their Token and Odin's Raven.
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  40. tyrsis

    tyrsis Member

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    I'm sure Todd will be along shortly to close this thread.
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