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Firestone Walker - Parabola 2014

Discussion in 'Beer Releases' started by DaltonC, Mar 2, 2014.

  1. Harnkus

    Harnkus Savant (395) New York Oct 31, 2013

    Love bourbon. It's just my personal opinion that beer consumers have been easily led down this path that is lining the pockets of brewers with beer that is so overly enhanced (distracted) that it's covering up the mess that lies beneath, which is rarely a thing of deft composure. Much like many other American phenomenons. Do I imbibe? Of course, but not foolishly with open arms of hype and disillusionment
  2. nophunk

    nophunk Savant (350) Louisiana Nov 27, 2011 Subscriber Beer Trader

    I feel like you're trying to convince yourself that you really believe this. Do I love Ten Fidy? Hell yes. Do I love Parabola? Hell yes. They each have a spot in my cellar. If you NEVER enjoy the subtle oak/vanilla/bourbon notes that a barrel can give, well that's your loss IMO of course. Do you not like oak aged sours? Would those beers be just as good (unique) aged in stainless? Most of them would not be, once again IMO of course.
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  3. Harnkus

    Harnkus Savant (395) New York Oct 31, 2013

    I have yet to try a subtle BB aged beer. I like wood mind you, I just really believe that to some degree the joke is on beer hunters with respect to "manly" bourbon angle
  4. Chris_H_2

    Chris_H_2 Savant (325) Illinois Jan 3, 2013 Beer Trader

    It's really hard not to take offense at this. After all, you're essentially calling people like me gullible, ignorant, and stupid for liking these beers and seeking them out, having been blindly convinced that they like BB-aged beers based not on their subjective tastes, but rather on hype and marketing. You're also saying that all BB-aged beers essentially are the same, with the bourbon masking the inferior beer. Yeah, on second thought, this is pretty offensive.
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  6. Boca-X

    Boca-X Champion (885) Missouri Jan 21, 2014

    Agreed...why do people always speak with their personal taste instead of their intelligent brain? Oh...I think I just answered my own question.
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  7. dcbullet

    dcbullet Savant (355) California Dec 18, 2013 Beer Trader

    If I like it, I like it. Is it really harder to grasp than that? They can fool me all they want.

    I love Parabola. I would rank it as my personal #1.
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  8. fishmich

    fishmich Advocate (580) Michigan Apr 11, 2013 Beer Trader

    damn i got tricked into thinking something tasted good? dammit im always liking stuff and then realizing i shouldnt like it. maybe i dont even like craft beer at all?

    FT: 300 beers from my cellar i thought i liked but i really dont actually like ISO: Hamms and Limarita
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  9. dpische

    dpische Aficionado (200) Illinois Mar 5, 2014 Beer Trader

    Time to stock up. Any thoughts on drinking fresh vs. aging?
  10. I too, have the same question as I have 3 sucabas stored (1 in the bar in the kitchen) & 2 others in the hallway cabinet

    Though I doubt this is the proper process of aging beers, i much rather not have it sit in the fridge for so long.

    I'll be sure to get Plenty of these, that I'm certain of.
  11. ASak10

    ASak10 Savant (390) Colorado Jan 2, 2014

    I'm certainly no aging expert. But the general answer you'll get to that question is drink one fresh for sure, then decide if you want to age. However, keeping it in the fridge won't really be aging it, since it's too cold to really allow any of the aging to happen. Or so people say.
  12. Harnkus

    Harnkus Savant (395) New York Oct 31, 2013

    You should find it offensive, that is if you care what I think. If you don't care then at a minimum you can appreciate a diverging point of view. Your precious beers are cloaked with clobber
  13. Futurepoop

    Futurepoop Aficionado (200) Pennsylvania Feb 10, 2014 Beer Trader

    That's akin to saying that the first people to add the Pilsner process, or using different malts/hops, to beer were "cloaking them with clobber" instead of letting the traditional brewing method shine through. Your statement is irrelevant. It's just a different way of preparation that you feel destroys the "true," whatever the hell that means, taste of beer.
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  14. that's what I normally do

    to reiterate my statement: I will have 2 aging in the hallway cabinet sitting vertically whereas the third will be in the kitchen bar set vertically as well (non refrigerated for all three)
  15. Harnkus

    Harnkus Savant (395) New York Oct 31, 2013

    It's nothing like that at all
  16. lakeylake

    lakeylake Savant (250) California Oct 29, 2013

    FYI -- on the back of the box of Parabola and Sucaba, it states that the recommended temperature for aging is 45° F.
  17. Smithrob9999

    Smithrob9999 Savant (435) Texas Aug 3, 2011

    I still think they're all overpriced, will I buy them...yes. With that said I've been getting into burboun more and find it crazy that a beer aged 1 year in a used barrel costs more than some 90 proof burbouns aged for up to 12 years !!!
  18. Black_Rider

    Black_Rider Advocate (605) California Mar 26, 2013 Beer Trader

    doing the tour on Saturday of the barrel room (mecca). can't wait
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  19. beerhan

    beerhan Advocate (500) Ohio Apr 28, 2010 Beer Trader

    I really think Firestone has the best barrel program in the country and have demonstrated that quite profoundly. Speaking as a person who lives outside of their distribution footprint and who has tried more or less everything they have bottled (save for pnc), they actually appear to know what they are doing when they blend and/or age beers. I have had many a beer that seems like it was thrown into a barrel just to jump on aforementioned bourbon barrel bandwagon but brews like parabola are just solid examples of the style.

    Tl;dr it tastes delicious, and I will do what I need to for more.
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  20. illeagle05

    illeagle05 Savant (380) Virginia Dec 21, 2010 Beer Trader

    Sure it is. You're trying to define the proper way to prepare and flavor beer by saying putting it in a bourbon barrel is being done simply to "mask" an underlying poor beer. You can say that about any single ingredient in any beer that deviates from the very first beer recipe... the bourbon barrel is just another ingredient.
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  21. end_27

    end_27 Advocate (645) Illinois Sep 23, 2012 Beer Trader

    Of course you do! o_O Know a guy, who know's a guy....who stole from a guy!
  22. Black_Rider

    Black_Rider Advocate (605) California Mar 26, 2013 Beer Trader

    I really think PJ Harvey is awesome
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  23. Fargrow

    Fargrow Champion (810) Michigan Feb 7, 2013 Beer Trader

    Since everyone's doing it... FT: 2014 KBS, ISO: This!
  24. Harnkus

    Harnkus Savant (395) New York Oct 31, 2013

    I'm not saying that at all. This collective notion though, that BBA beers are the apex of beer enlightenment is the biggest ruse on good taste. I reckon they are a dime a dozen and. Good waste of space and ability
  25. dcbullet

    dcbullet Savant (355) California Dec 18, 2013 Beer Trader

    That's like, your opinion, man.

    JOHNKNEEGEEZ Aficionado (180) Maine Feb 22, 2014

    I'll be heading to the Whale's Vagina next week. Any recommendations as to a good beer store? BevMo? Appreciate any help! Cheers!
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  27. nophunk

    nophunk Savant (350) Louisiana Nov 27, 2011 Subscriber Beer Trader

    You have changed your story about 5 times.
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  28. Phobicsquirrel

    Phobicsquirrel Advocate (700) Oregon Oct 1, 2013 Beer Trader

    That's a sweet name! I'd get a shirt just for conversation.
  29. Yes, I was aware of this however not trying to be a smart ass about my reply but, I have no such option thus having to rely on my cabinet

    hopefully it doesn't ruin it as I'll be doing this to one of three parabolas when purchased
  30. dcbullet

    dcbullet Savant (355) California Dec 18, 2013 Beer Trader

    I kept a 2011 in a kitchen cabinet for 3 years. Tasted absolutely outstanding. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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  31. Harnkus

    Harnkus Savant (395) New York Oct 31, 2013

    Nah, just layering my opinion in a scatty manner.
  32. Harnkus

    Harnkus Savant (395) New York Oct 31, 2013

    As all things are outside of scientific or undeniable evidence.

  33. Thanks man
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  34. Really hope some of this comes into Binny's Champaign tomorrow. Case of wine + Truck of Parabola should make for a good haul to the cellar.


  35. Shamb

    Shamb Savant (275) California Jan 13, 2014

    Anyone in CA see this on shelfs yet? Specifically Sacramento
  36. 2beerdogs

    2beerdogs Poobah (1,090) California Jan 31, 2005 Subscriber Beer Trader

    Isn't Whale's Vagina playing Day 2 at Coachella?
  37. RangnaR

    RangnaR Savant (425) California Dec 17, 2012

    You're not the only one in the area on the hunt! If I see any, I'll definitely pass the info along!
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  38. Kramerbarthomer

    Kramerbarthomer Poobah (1,060) Colorado Mar 22, 2012 Beer Trader

    why are you guys on the hunt??? i've heard barrel aged FW stuff chills on shelves in Cali... in Colorado, it's a different story....
  39. RangnaR

    RangnaR Savant (425) California Dec 17, 2012

    In my own experience going through this last year, Double DBA and Velvet Merkin seemed to languish on shelves for awhile, but with Sucaba and Parabola, if you blinked you might miss it..
  40. Phobicsquirrel

    Phobicsquirrel Advocate (700) Oregon Oct 1, 2013 Beer Trader

    Yeah, around me parabola lasted about a week last year. Sucaba a bit longer but the other two lasted a while.