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Firestone walker vs Stone brewery

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by mhksuccess, Dec 20, 2012.

  1. I myself would have to side with Firestone walker and that is based on the following
    well for year round productions I have to side with the Union Jack over Stone Ipa
    then the Double Jack over Stone Ruination although Ruination is one of Stone best beers
    Then the Velvet Merlin is better than Stone Porter the Stone beer is just pretty average
    although I did like the Stone vanilla porter and Stone pepper porter not sure of the name lol
    Then comes the anniversary specialty brew that Firestone puts out yearly anniversary, parabola, sucaba, that double dba it is just worlds ahead of Stone even the Stone double bastard bourbon barrel aged was good but still below the quality last I will have to mention that collaboration Stone Mint chocolate stout was amazing
    but i have to side overall with Firestone Walker
     
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  2. Hanzo

    Hanzo Champion (955) Virginia Feb 27, 2012

    For me this isn't even close. Firestone Walker.
     
  3. Stone IPA > Union Jack
    Ruination > Double Jack
    Wookey Jack > SSR
    Pale 31 > Stone Pale
    Velvet Merlin & FW Porter > Stone Porter

    Both their seasonal BW's and RIS's are fantastic, Stones aren't Barrel Aged, while FW's are, so it's hard to do a direct comparison.
    Price-wise they're about even.

    I guess you can say I love them both and they're both pretty damn even in my book.
     
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  4. I like Stone...a lot.

    but, I LOVE FIRESTONE WALKER.
     
  5. Firestone. Every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
     
  6. Kaz646

    Kaz646 Zealot (80) California Dec 14, 2010

    I'm a big fan of Stone, but anything barrel aged by Firestone makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
     
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  7. eatabagofbooger

    eatabagofbooger Savant (295) Oregon Mar 27, 2009

    Well put. To be more precise, I like Stone better for IPAs (IPA beats the hell out of Union Jack and Ruination edges out Double Jack); but as much as I love IRS, FW wins out for me with Velvet Merkin, Velvet Merlin, Abacus, DDBA, Parabola, and the Anniversary beers.

    Gotta give Stone lotsa credit for Suitable for Cave Aging. It's incredibly unlikely, but I'd be freaking stoked if they ever bottled that one!
     
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  8. Cracked open a DDBA this past weekend.
    Was as blown away as I was when I opened my first DDBA earlier this year.
     
  9. Let me fix this for you:
    I don't think it is even close. Firestone Walker by a landslide.
     
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  10. Pelican5

    Pelican5 Savant (320) California Feb 4, 2012

    FW /
     
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  11. I'm not totally sure how this can be a comparison. From a consumer perspective, of course FW has better representations of the styles, according to the majority. Though, Stone's prices are AMAZING for what they offer.

    FW Barleywine ~$12.99/22oz. vs Stone Barleywine ~$7.99/22oz

    FW RIS $14.99/22oz vs Stone IRS ~$7.99/22oz

    FW IPA ~$6.99/22oz vs Stone IPA ~4.49/22oz


    While i prefer most Firestone Walker styles over the Stone equivalent, i have purchased much more Stone in my trips to the store simply because they offer very good prices for their very good beer. FW offerings are very good, slightly above Stone IMO, but is it worth paying almost double the price for that difference? only sometimes.
     
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  12. Just picked up 2 Union Jack's to be my first IPA I will ever drink. Good choice?
     
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  13. mychalg9

    mychalg9 Advocate (710) Illinois Apr 8, 2010

    FW lays the whomp down, IMO. Quite honestly I could live the rest of my life without another Stone beer and be perfectly content.
     
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  14. Catchy_Name

    Catchy_Name Savant (435) California Dec 21, 2011

    I'd have to pick FW based solely on their barrel aged releases and that's what I'm into mostly. They have Stone by taste and price. I think the Quingente's should be $20 max, they're not even a full bomber if memory serves. And I say it a few times per week, but Velvet Merlin is probably my favorite non barrel aged stout on Earth. However, Stone makes better IPA's IMO.
     
  15. If you're comparing Sucaba to Old Guardian and Parabola to IRS, the answer is emphatically YES.
     
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  16. yupp! it just won an award at the European beer rating event thingy... im forgetting the name.... but ya its amazing.

    Not to a college student :p Also, availability is an issue. I can get Stone RIS and Old guardian pretty much anytime at most stores. FW Parabola and abacus/sucaba are much harder to find, as well as limited brew schedules.
     
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  17. holy hell, yes.
     
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  18. Preluderl

    Preluderl Savant (385) Pennsylvania Sep 27, 2012

    Acquired my first ever Firestone Walker (Parabola) brew just last eve via a trade with SMason. Excited to try it.
     
  19. firestone walker is delicious but rarely worth the $$$
     
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  20. sil1

    sil1 Aficionado (245) California May 19, 2012

    Firestone no contest they're not in the same league
     
  21. I would sorely miss the absence of either of them if for some reason one went away.
     
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  22. Pecan

    Pecan Savant (435) California Dec 20, 2012

    I'm split on beer versus beer, but would have to say I'm a bigger fan of Stone overall. Giving them the edge as a brewery because of variety, mainly due to their collab series.
     
  23. Me, FW and Stone are in a polyamouous relationship. We all love one another and if/when they get together, it's magic!
     
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  24. Mavajo

    Mavajo Advocate (550) Georgia Feb 10, 2007

    Firestone, purely because of their barrel-aging program. Stone's barrel program is somewhere between "crappy" and "non-existent."

    If Stone was gone tomorrow, I wouldn't care.
     
  25. neither one distributes their barrel-aged stuff to california anyway.

    i used to be a big fan of velvet merlin. stone has nothing that comes close. it's the one thing that tempts me to break my firestone boycott...
     
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  26. By quite a bit.

    Lukcy Basartd > most beers I've ever had. FW's barrel-aged stuffs are hard to get on the East Side.
     
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  27. Is that FW's fault or your distributors?

    I know my Deschutes distributor is awful and we don't get much, if any, Reserve Series stuff.
    I can't fault Deschutes if my distributor isn't ordering any of it.
     

  28. If they are less than two months old.
     
  29. kojevergas

    kojevergas Champion (915) Texas Aug 15, 2010

    I like Velvet Merkin and Unfiltered DBA. Levitation is good on Stone's side.

    I'm not a fan of either brewery, but if pressed I'd probably begrudgingly side with Firestone Walker. Their restaurant makes a good steak.
     

  30. Yup, but I dont like their DBA at all though.
     
  31. They are! :) Bottling date is 11/16/12!
     
  32. As you should be...

    I had high expectations when I cracked my first Parabola and they were quickly met.
    Upon letting the brew warm a bit, my expectations were easily exceeded.
     
  33. this is hearsay, but here's the word from a guy who talked to a fw rep: they, at the brewery level, are prioritizing out-of-state markets.

    [​IMG]

    last release, san diego stores were allotted (not ordered) 1 case. i even asked a buyer how true that was; he ordered 10 cases and received 1. the distributors want to move their inventory, so logically, the short supply must be up the chain, from the brewery.

    i think they make great beer, and i'd buy a lot of it if they made more of their special releases available in quantity here. but they don't, so i don't.
     
  34. SalukiAlum

    SalukiAlum Advocate (540) Colorado Dec 19, 2010

    Both in my top 10-15 breweries in the US. I actually give a slight nod to Stone if I had to pick. Enjoy By might have been my favorite beer of the year!! Stone RIS might be my favorite non barrel aged stout too! Firestone Walker nails it with their barrel aged beers and I love Double Jack! Can go wrong with either :)
     
  35. And what barrel aged stouts & barleywines are a significantly better value?
    I'm not trying to be flip, I'm just really curious.
     
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  36. grumpy

    grumpy Savant (405) Missouri May 24, 2005

    My favorite from either brewery is "Punctuation."

    Sorry.
     
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  37. Firestone by a mile
     
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  38. fredmugs

    fredmugs Champion (870) Indiana Aug 11, 2012

    Can't get FW in BF Indiana so Stone wins by default. Union Jack is really good. Double Jack is awesome. DBA is meh. So far that's all I've had.
     
  39. CA_Infidel2o9

    CA_Infidel2o9 Savant (310) Dec 1, 2012

    This thread is very interesting, i've realized i can't really post an opinion because, besides FW 16th & Stones 12.12.12, i haven't had either breweries beers in quiet a while. I think it's about time to crack open some old favorites and have a side by side tasting.
     
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  40. DonDirkA

    DonDirkA Savant (400) Arizona Dec 14, 2011

    I'd have to say Firestone. I came up on craft beer from Stone and I still love them (especially their collabs and anniversary beers), but I anticipate Sucaba, Parabola, Anniversary and now DDBA every year. Stone makes some great beers but they are basically IPA people and while I still love a great IPA, I have grown past them a bit.
     

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