certainly not one of warmth and welcome, but rather characterized by arrogance and alientation to those who simply like good beer and appreciate good service. we know good beer. so, it really isn't necessary for you to 1)tell me it is good, 2) tell me their's is bad, or 3) provide directive to those who happen to be on the bandwagon of your preliminary attempts to go to beeradvocate, yelp, etc to "combat" the haters. humility. great that Tin Man seems to be giving it lip service in this forum, but we will see if it is carried out. a lot of things with Tin Man just haven't added up. . . it doesn't mean I don't want to see them succeed, but they have a lot to overcome. starting out as a production brewery and not a brewpub may be a little bit too aggressive for relatively new brewers to the scene. time will tell.