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Founders gets $2 million grant for large ongoing expansion project

Discussion in 'Beer News' started by CellarGimp, Dec 19, 2012.

  1. CellarGimp

    CellarGimp Advocate (510) Missouri Sep 14, 2011

  2. jesskidden

    jesskidden Champion (810) New Jersey Aug 10, 2005 Subscriber

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  3. A small part of the money needed if you read the article. Reminds me of this story. When Henry J Kaiser announced after WWII that he was investing $100M to make autos, one wag from the back of the room was said to shout out "give that man one white chip!".

    Good to see tax dollars going to invest in a growing business. Hops if turns out better as a reurn than BadAss.
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  4. markus72

    markus72 Aspirant (35) Dec 2, 2012

    Much rather see my tax payer dollars spent on a brewery than on 4 stadiums, see Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. What did Ben Franklin say?
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  5. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Advocate (690) Missouri May 11, 2012 Beer Trader

    I love Founders but honestly, what the hell? I'm sick of tax dollars going to private entities.
  6. IHyphySF

    IHyphySF Savant (330) California Nov 21, 2011 Beer Trader

    Hopefully does this mean i can get FBS soon in California?
  7. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Advocate (660) California Jan 2, 2010 Subscriber Beer Trader

    FBS? Fuck that noise. They just just quadruple up KBS and with any leftover money make some CBS and Backwoods Bastard year round.
  8. Founders in California coalition
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  9. They have sent stuff out here before.
  10. kylelenk

    kylelenk Savant (415) Michigan Apr 17, 2012

    It's a win/win. Bigger brewery creates more employment while improving downtown and bringing in more tourism in my very macro view of things.
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  11. flayedandskinned

    flayedandskinned Advocate (515) California Jan 1, 2011 Beer Trader

  12. 4DAloveofSTOUT

    4DAloveofSTOUT Champion (840) Illinois Nov 28, 2008 Beer Trader

    Yeah, you can get it now...just do a local for local trade. FBS is super easy to get in the Great lakes beer region.
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  13. GRG1313

    GRG1313 Poobah (1,030) California Jan 15, 2009 Beer Trader

    FYI, when one goes to Grand Rapids, Founders Brewery is generally listed as the number one (1) tourist attraction of the city.
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  14. Jfriz25

    Jfriz25 Savant (350) Wisconsin Jun 8, 2012 Beer Trader

    Judging by the 4-5 cases sitting in almost every store in my area there is already enough FBS to send California the same amount of FBS as Founders sends KBS/Harvest/Backwoods to WI. (I think the current strategy is send 1 bottle per 10,000 people but only for citys over 50k) Them expanding further probably means people in South Carolina will be able to get 2 cases of KBS each instead of just 1 now.

    No I'm not bitter, why do you say that?? :)
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  15. Higy

    Higy Aficionado (245) Indiana Feb 9, 2012

    good for the brewery & those who enjoy the beer, I'm one who enjoys all that they brew. Bad for those who don't drink beer but pay taxes, they had no choice. Government picking winners & losers.
  16. If beer taxes went directly to this grant no problem, but Government is never efficient like that...
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  17. BradtheGreat7

    BradtheGreat7 Savant (340) Ohio Jul 22, 2011

    First off, I love Founders Brewing Co and the beers they ship to my area every year, but I was a bit disappointed to find out that Red's Rye in bottle will be switched from a year round to speciality seasonal. This is a brew I buy frequently and I'm a bit frustrated I can't buy it until September. I don't have the luxury of driving to their brewery to get off tap. I'm hoping this expansion allows them to bottle more of our favorites. Because I'm dreading those nights when I'm looking for an old favorite and can't get a 6er of reds rye lol. Just please dont switch your porter. I beg of them
  18. eyebrews

    eyebrews Aficionado (170) Michigan Aug 10, 2005

    Looks like it is time for you to get a kegerator ;) I don't think you have to worry about the porter going seasonal as it has a much longer shelf life.
  19. To various festivals in SD and LA.
  20. GregoryVII

    GregoryVII Savant (355) Michigan Jan 30, 2006

    It's a repayable loan, not a charity.
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  21. mrcraft

    mrcraft Poobah (1,010) California Dec 15, 2012 Beer Trader

    I saw 4 different brews from Founders the other day at Ramirez Liquor in LA. Two were selling at $1.99 a piece. One was Red's Rye, can't remember the other. Other two were at around $5-6 each.
  22. okcommuter

    okcommuter Savant (260) Michigan Dec 25, 2012

    I may be partial, since Founders is a sort bike ride away for me, but I think this is great news. The proposed expansion will most likely result in wider distribution and higher volumes of some long standing favorites. Red's Rye is one of my favorites, but I dig that they are concerned with making sure it is being sold fresh.
  23. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Advocate (690) Missouri May 11, 2012 Beer Trader

    I know its not a charity, I'm just not a fan of government involvement. Guess thats just the Libertarian in me
  24. nate8767

    nate8767 Aficionado (230) Alabama Nov 1, 2011 Beer Trader

    OMG Founders is expanding only a matter of time until they start taking money from BMC and sell out just like Goose Island omg I'll never drink another Founders product again
  25. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Advocate (690) Missouri May 11, 2012 Beer Trader

    Me neither! Everybody refuse to buy KBS or Backstage releases!
  26. Brunite

    Brunite Savant (430) Illinois Sep 21, 2009

    Gang...let's understand the deal first...

    From the article quoted:

    From the Program's website:

    Sooo....if this is actually a LOAN.....it will eventually be paid back.....by our purchases......while providing a bunch of new jobs and a lot more great beer in the pipeline.

    Sounds like a win:win:win:win deal to me.
  27. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Advocate (685) Massachusetts Mar 29, 2007 Beer Trader

    Seriously, use Kickstarter like everyone else!
  28. faucd531

    faucd531 Initiate (0) Louisiana Jul 7, 2010

    Hopefully they will expand distribution to Louisiana!
  29. OB Noodle House in San Diego has Founders's stuff on somewhat regularly. Old curmudgeon, Centennial IPA, and All Day immediately come to mind.
  30. it was a 90 day provisional permit connected to the Firestone Walker festival. What we "got" was some Double Trouble and Centennial Rye that was ~4 months old. Not tight.

    I think I saw some FBS once, but, those are extras. You don't buy your own extras.
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